OKC Thunder 2022-23 Regular Season Discussion

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Post#1281 » by BlockCity » Mon Mar 6, 2023 9:21 pm

ThunderBolt wrote:When I look at the morant situation and how shai has just been a model superstar, we owe it to go all in this offseason.
Is Jerami Grant worth overpaying? Seems like a good fit: Chet, Grant, J Dub, Shai and Giddey starting 5.

Dort to the bench but probably closes lots of games with his strengths.



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Post#1283 » by Devilanche » Tue Mar 7, 2023 12:32 am

ThunderBolt wrote:When I look at the morant situation and how shai has just been a model superstar, we owe it to go all in this offseason.

What’s all in ? Find another star ? Get a decent big ?
Trade up in the draft ? Draft a ready to contribute first rounder ?
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Re: OKC Thunder 2022-23 Regular Season Discussion 

Post#1284 » by Dadouv47 » Tue Mar 7, 2023 12:47 am

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ThunderBolt wrote:When I look at the morant situation and how shai has just been a model superstar, we owe it to go all in this offseason.

What’s all in ? Find another star ? Get a decent big ?
Trade up in the draft ? Draft a ready to contribute first rounder ?


I don't want to go all in before I see an healthy Chet but I think we could afford to do everything u just asked :)
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Post#1285 » by Devilanche » Tue Mar 7, 2023 1:41 am

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ThunderBolt wrote:When I look at the morant situation and how shai has just been a model superstar, we owe it to go all in this offseason.

What’s all in ? Find another star ? Get a decent big ?
Trade up in the draft ? Draft a ready to contribute first rounder ?


I don't want to go all in before I see an healthy Chet but I think we could afford to do everything u just asked :)


I would look to see if we can absorb one of Brooklyn many serviceable wing for a cheap-ish price .
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Re: OKC Thunder 2022-23 Regular Season Discussion 

Post#1286 » by ThunderBolt » Tue Mar 7, 2023 11:49 am

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ThunderBolt wrote:When I look at the morant situation and how shai has just been a model superstar, we owe it to go all in this offseason.

What’s all in ? Find another star ? Get a decent big ?
Trade up in the draft ? Draft a ready to contribute first rounder ?

My version of all in is make sure we pushing towards the playoffs. Chet, Jalen and some of the other young guys still need developmental minutes no more weird lineups and rotations like we saw this year. I’m not opposed to adding a good veteran or two if the price is right and possibly moving on from Dort.
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Re: OKC Thunder 2022-23 Regular Season Discussion 

Post#1287 » by Dadouv47 » Tue Mar 7, 2023 1:50 pm

Chet/ Jaylin
Poku/ 2023 FRP/ Dieng
Giddey/Joe
JDub/Dort
SGA/ Kenrich/Wiggins

12 players rotation with our current roster and 2023 FRP. This is still a weak frontcourt though because we don't know how healthy Chet is gonna be and we suck at the PF position so signing a good PF would be the best move to increase our odds to make the POs IMO.
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Post#1288 » by jake_swivel » Tue Mar 7, 2023 2:02 pm

Dort for John Collins in the summer works for me.
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Post#1289 » by ThunderBolt » Tue Mar 7, 2023 3:01 pm

jake_swivel wrote:Dort for John Collins in the summer works for me.

We might even get back assets for that. Atlanta has killed Collins value.
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Post#1290 » by jake_swivel » Tue Mar 7, 2023 3:08 pm

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jake_swivel wrote:Dort for John Collins in the summer works for me.

We might even get back assets for that. Atlanta has killed Collins value.


Agreed. My concern with Collins is his PED suspension. How much of his dropoff is being off the juice and how much is the Trae-toxicity?
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Post#1291 » by Xatticus » Tue Mar 7, 2023 4:22 pm

I’d like to add a legit five. We need some that we can utilize as needed to rein in guys like Valanciunas or Kessler. I don’t really want to rely on throwing Chet into that until he gets comfortable with the physicality of the NBA and we need to see how all of our current “bigs” can do sharing the floor with a legit five. JRE will be fine, I’m sure. He has good feet when defending in space. Chet might struggle in space, but his length might allow him to get away with it. We need to know if Jaylin can do it though, otherwise his long-term future is situational as we’ve seen the behemoths of the league chew him up on the glass.

Beyond that, I’m comfortable just running it back with our new draftee. I expect this team to make the playoffs regardless as we have underperformed our expected W/L this season and we should add at least a few wins from internal development.
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Re: OKC Thunder 2022-23 Regular Season Discussion 

Post#1292 » by ThunderBolt » Tue Mar 7, 2023 5:16 pm

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Xatticus wrote:I’d like to add a legit five. We need some that we can utilize as needed to rein in guys like Valanciunas or Kessler. I don’t really want to rely on throwing Chet into that until he gets comfortable with the physicality of the NBA and we need to see how all of our current “bigs” can do sharing the floor with a legit five. JRE will be fine, I’m sure. He has good feet when defending in space. Chet might struggle in space, but his length might allow him to get away with it. We need to know if Jaylin can do it though, otherwise his long-term future is situational as we’ve seen the behemoths of the league chew him up on the glass.

Beyond that, I’m comfortable just running it back with our new draftee. I expect this team to make the playoffs regardless as we have underperformed our expected W/L this season and we should add at least a few wins from internal development.


I agree. I think someone to compensate for Chet's weaknesses is probably the smartest thing we can do right now. Can't wait for next year.
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Re: OKC Thunder 2022-23 Regular Season Discussion 

Post#1293 » by Dadouv47 » Tue Mar 7, 2023 5:34 pm

How much it would cost to get Vucecic? Gotta be an overpay in order for him to sign with us.
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Post#1294 » by jake_swivel » Tue Mar 7, 2023 6:27 pm

Dadouv47 wrote:How much it would cost to get Vucecic? Gotta be an overpay in order for him to sign with us.


Eww. Empty stats. No defense. Career loser. Coming from a hybrid bulls/thunder fan, I’d rather start Kenrich than overpay Vuc.
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Post#1295 » by Dadouv47 » Tue Mar 7, 2023 6:40 pm

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Dadouv47 wrote:How much it would cost to get Vucecic? Gotta be an overpay in order for him to sign with us.


Eww. Empty stats. No defense. Career loser. Coming from a hybrid bulls/thunder fan, I’d rather start Kenrich than overpay Vuc.


I think he was overrated in Orlando and terrible in Chicago but maybe he could work in a better team but u must be right. There's no big I'm excited to sign this offseason to be honest. Brook Lopez is the best one but I doubt he's willing to join us. Improving at the 4 with John Collins or PJ Washington and let Chet struggle a bit at the 5 and play some small ball line ups might be our best solution.
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Post#1297 » by jake_swivel » Tue Mar 7, 2023 6:54 pm

Dadouv47 wrote:I think he was overrated in Orlando and terrible in Chicago but maybe he could work in a better team but u must be right. There's no big I'm excited to sign this offseason to be honest. Brook Lopez is the best one but I doubt he's willing to join us. Improving at the 4 with John Collins or PJ Washington and let Chet struggle a bit at the 5 and play some small ball line ups might be our best solution.


You know, if we can’t get a vet PF, I’d prefer to keep Saric (at an under 8 mil contract for maybe 2 years) and Sarr. Run it back with Chet, and wait for the deadline to see what Dort/Mann/JRE and picks could garner. OKC has already proven they can play small. I don’t mind another season scrounging being a little undersized.
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Post#1298 » by Dadouv47 » Tue Mar 7, 2023 7:11 pm

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Dadouv47 wrote:I think he was overrated in Orlando and terrible in Chicago but maybe he could work in a better team but u must be right. There's no big I'm excited to sign this offseason to be honest. Brook Lopez is the best one but I doubt he's willing to join us. Improving at the 4 with John Collins or PJ Washington and let Chet struggle a bit at the 5 and play some small ball line ups might be our best solution.


You know, if we can’t get a vet PF, I’d prefer to keep Saric (at an under 8 mil contract for maybe 2 years) and Sarr. Run it back with Chet, and wait for the deadline to see what Dort/Mann/JRE and picks could garner. OKC has already proven they can play small. I don’t mind another season scrounging being a little undersized.


I would agree 100% if I wasn't worried about Chet's health..if we run it back and Chet gets injured, it will be a wasted season. We can still wait what will happen during the season obviously but it feels like a good timing to add a PF with a lot of good players likely available (oG/Collins/Grant/PJ washington).

I still think there's a world where Harden goes back to Houston and we can get Jabari for a decent price :)
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Post#1299 » by jake_swivel » Tue Mar 7, 2023 7:23 pm

Dadouv47 wrote:I would agree 100% if I wasn't worried about Chet's health..if we run it back and Chet gets injured, it will be a wasted season.


I think one thing that this season has taught us is that regardless of Chet, the development of Giddey/Jalen/Wiggins/Joe/Dieng/Poku/jwill means that next season will not be wasted. They’ll be better next year. I think if this season was spent trying to win, they’d be around 5 or 6. Coach Diagonal spent a lot of time experimenting, and I don’t think that will be necessary next year. If everything except Chet goes right, this will be a pretty good team next year.
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Re: OKC Thunder 2022-23 Regular Season Discussion 

Post#1300 » by ThunderBolt » Tue Mar 7, 2023 9:31 pm

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jake_swivel wrote:
Dadouv47 wrote:I think he was overrated in Orlando and terrible in Chicago but maybe he could work in a better team but u must be right. There's no big I'm excited to sign this offseason to be honest. Brook Lopez is the best one but I doubt he's willing to join us. Improving at the 4 with John Collins or PJ Washington and let Chet struggle a bit at the 5 and play some small ball line ups might be our best solution.


You know, if we can’t get a vet PF, I’d prefer to keep Saric (at an under 8 mil contract for maybe 2 years) and Sarr. Run it back with Chet, and wait for the deadline to see what Dort/Mann/JRE and picks could garner. OKC has already proven they can play small. I don’t mind another season scrounging being a little undersized.


I would agree 100% if I wasn't worried about Chet's health..if we run it back and Chet gets injured, it will be a wasted season. We can still wait what will happen during the season obviously but it feels like a good timing to add a PF with a lot of good players likely available (oG/Collins/Grant/PJ washington).

I still think there's a world where Harden goes back to Houston and we can get Jabari for a decent price :)

If Chet has major injury next year, I’m probably writing him off as a bust. Could be wrong but he needs to be healthy next year.
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