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GunnerWRX wrote:Did he fly on the team plane with a gun while travelling for the road trip including the Nuggets?
MrGoat wrote:This is just his way of letting the team know he wants to switch to shooting guard.
I believe Colorado is an open carry state so unless he actually pointed it at someone he likely technically didn't commit a crime and will likely avoid all legal trouble. I suspect that is more luck on Ja's part than actually being aware of the law though
Edrees wrote:MrGoat wrote:This is just his way of letting the team know he wants to switch to shooting guard.
I believe Colorado is an open carry state so unless he actually pointed it at someone he likely technically didn't commit a crime and will likely avoid all legal trouble. I suspect that is more luck on Ja's part than actually being aware of the law though
Ja's been in like 30 states this season. Not all o them are open carry. So if he kept it with him and didn't magically dispose of it at every border crossing, he definitely violated laws.
MrGoat wrote:Edrees wrote:MrGoat wrote:This is just his way of letting the team know he wants to switch to shooting guard.
I believe Colorado is an open carry state so unless he actually pointed it at someone he likely technically didn't commit a crime and will likely avoid all legal trouble. I suspect that is more luck on Ja's part than actually being aware of the law though
Ja's been in like 30 states this season. Not all o them are open carry. So if he kept it with him and didn't magically dispose of it at every border crossing, he definitely violated laws.
That'd be hard to prove though. We don't even know if it was his own gun he was posing with, he could easily claim someone in his posse had the gun and lent it to him for the pose (very difficult to disprove yet again, even if the gun is registered to Ja). I found the video on tmz, he was dancing around with the gun pointed down for just a little bit, if it was loaded the biggest risk was him Plaxico Burressing himself. From a legal standpoint I think he can slither out of it this time because it was in Colorado and not in Denver (which has stricter gun restrictions). Needs to be very careful from now on though now that he's drawn the microscope onto himself, if he wises up he'll probably get a second chance that not everyone would get
MrGoat wrote:That'd be hard to prove though. We don't even know if it was his own gun he was posing with, he could easily claim someone in his posse had the gun and lent it to him for the pose (very difficult to disprove yet again, even if the gun is registered to Ja).
SomeBunghole wrote:MrGoat wrote:That'd be hard to prove though. We don't even know if it was his own gun he was posing with, he could easily claim someone in his posse had the gun and lent it to him for the pose (very difficult to disprove yet again, even if the gun is registered to Ja).
I don't know why people act like all these things are so difficult to prove. They are doing an actual police investigation in Colorado, so they'll certainly talk to his hangers on to see what the truth might be.
NBA is also going to talk to his teammates(the cops might want to, as well) and question them about all the stuff that went on.
Even if it may be difficult to meet standards of proof for legal charges, there will be plenty of proof for his employee(the NBA) to throw the book at Ja because they're not held to the same standards of proof.
MrGoat wrote:SomeBunghole wrote:MrGoat wrote:That'd be hard to prove though. We don't even know if it was his own gun he was posing with, he could easily claim someone in his posse had the gun and lent it to him for the pose (very difficult to disprove yet again, even if the gun is registered to Ja).
I don't know why people act like all these things are so difficult to prove. They are doing an actual police investigation in Colorado, so they'll certainly talk to his hangers on to see what the truth might be.
NBA is also going to talk to his teammates(the cops might want to, as well) and question them about all the stuff that went on.
Even if it may be difficult to meet standards of proof for legal charges, there will be plenty of proof for his employee(the NBA) to throw the book at Ja because they're not held to the same standards of proof.
I'm mainly talking from a legal standpoint. It was a power move by Colorado police to do this investigation because that's Nuggets country and Memphis is the 2 seed, and I wouldn't be so quick to say that isn't at least part of the reason they're investigating this anyway even if they know the likelihood of getting legal charges to stick are quite low. Witness testimony is pretty weak, and they'll likely cover for him anyway. The NBA can be more punitive without proof and that makes it more of a PR nightmare for the Grizz. The real question for the NBA is how much they want to ruin Ja's marketability, though that question might be an even bigger question for the shoe companies because Ja is the most marketable player they've had in a while
MrGoat wrote:SomeBunghole wrote:MrGoat wrote:That'd be hard to prove though. We don't even know if it was his own gun he was posing with, he could easily claim someone in his posse had the gun and lent it to him for the pose (very difficult to disprove yet again, even if the gun is registered to Ja).
I don't know why people act like all these things are so difficult to prove. They are doing an actual police investigation in Colorado, so they'll certainly talk to his hangers on to see what the truth might be.
NBA is also going to talk to his teammates(the cops might want to, as well) and question them about all the stuff that went on.
Even if it may be difficult to meet standards of proof for legal charges, there will be plenty of proof for his employee(the NBA) to throw the book at Ja because they're not held to the same standards of proof.
I'm mainly talking from a legal standpoint. It was a power move by Colorado police to do this investigation because that's Nuggets country and Memphis is the 2 seed, and I wouldn't be so quick to say that isn't at least part of the reason they're investigating this anyway even if they know the likelihood of getting legal charges to stick are quite low. Witness testimony is pretty weak, and they'll likely cover for him anyway. The NBA can be more punitive without proof and that makes it more of a PR nightmare for the Grizz. The real question for the NBA is how much they want to ruin Ja's marketability, though that question might be an even bigger question for the shoe companies because Ja is the most marketable player they've had in a while
hoosierdaddy34 wrote:So on the recent Windhorst podcast Marc Spears starts to say “some things that he’s heard” in relation to Ja’s actions and Windhorst quickly cuts him off and says “we don’t need to go into that”
Hmmmm. Anyone with any ideas?
Duke4life831 wrote:
As someone who lived in Denver for 4 years, I can safely say there is no such thing as “Nuggets Country”. This is no shot at the Denver fan base or anything like that, but there is no doubt what so ever that Denver is “Broncos Country”. I’ve never been in a place that is more hardcore about their football than Denver is. When I lived there, even during NFL offseason and middle of NBA season (like right now), 95% of the talk on sports radio was still all about the Broncos.
Again don’t get me wrong, no shot at the Nuggets fan base, it’s not like they struggle to sell out games or anything. But ya the worry of the police department being so big Nuggets fans that they’re doing this to help out the Nuggets isn’t a thing.
KembaWalker wrote:If you think you need a gun to answer the door, you probably shouldn’t answer the door. Call the police
Nate505 wrote:Duke4life831 wrote:
As someone who lived in Denver for 4 years, I can safely say there is no such thing as “Nuggets Country”. This is no shot at the Denver fan base or anything like that, but there is no doubt what so ever that Denver is “Broncos Country”. I’ve never been in a place that is more hardcore about their football than Denver is. When I lived there, even during NFL offseason and middle of NBA season (like right now), 95% of the talk on sports radio was still all about the Broncos.
Again don’t get me wrong, no shot at the Nuggets fan base, it’s not like they struggle to sell out games or anything. But ya the worry of the police department being so big Nuggets fans that they’re doing this to help out the Nuggets isn’t a thing.
It's kind of hard to emphasize how true this is. Maybe if the Nuggets make the Finals the sports talk here would spend a little more time on them than who should be 2nd string on the nose tackle depth chart, but even then I wouldn't bet on it.
