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Re: 2022-2023 Regular Season Game 66: Milwaukee Bucks (46-18) at Orlando Magic (27-38) - 7pm 

Post#161 » by KillMonger » Wed Mar 8, 2023 3:10 am

I like goga... Its nice to have someone who will fight on the glass... Hopefully he gets more minutes

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Post#162 » by thelead » Wed Mar 8, 2023 3:11 am

Ducklett wrote:I think at this point you gotta try and finish 5th worst, pray to whatever deity/deities you believe in, and maybe turn this into a play in team next year.

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Post#163 » by KillMonger » Wed Mar 8, 2023 3:16 am

My hope in the draft is Scoot man.... Love the kids game

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Re: 2022-2023 Regular Season Game 66: Milwaukee Bucks (46-18) at Orlando Magic (27-38) - 7pm 

Post#164 » by Knightro » Wed Mar 8, 2023 3:51 am

Ducklett wrote:I think at this point you gotta try and finish 5th worst, pray to whatever deity/deities you believe in, and maybe turn this into a play in team next year.


I mean realistically they're gonna be a play in team next season just on having reasonable health alone.

They've essentially been a .500 team/slightly above for nearly well over 3 months at this point.

It stands to reason .500 should be the minimum expectation for next season if they simply run it back.
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Re: 2022-2023 Regular Season Game 66: Milwaukee Bucks (46-18) at Orlando Magic (27-38) - 7pm 

Post#165 » by pepe1991 » Wed Mar 8, 2023 7:31 am

Optimus_Steel wrote:Mil is def the best team we've played all year by far. They will probably win the title if Giannis is healthy. They got tons of depth, tons of shooting, rim protection, defense, exceptional ball movement and an alien.

Hope Paolo and Franz are taking notes from this Mil team. They have been beaten down thoroughly by them.

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They are just 3rd favorite to win all behind Suns and Celtics.

I don't think they can pass Celtics without 100% healthy Middelton and they probably won't enjoy Cavs matchup if they face up.

Bucks are very well coached and have clear hierarchy. That's normally what separates rebuilding teams and contenders.
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Re: 2022-2023 Regular Season Game 66: Milwaukee Bucks (46-18) at Orlando Magic (27-38) - 7pm 

Post#166 » by Ralof » Wed Mar 8, 2023 7:45 am

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Post#167 » by drsd » Wed Mar 8, 2023 10:16 am

Suggs does his best G-Harris impression by being totally absent on offense in all ways.

I am sick of this team playing 4 on 5 on offensive sets given the lack of a competent SG. A capable starting SG and a capable backup SG are the major needs of this team moving forward. My chatbot statement of the day.
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Post#168 » by drsd » Wed Mar 8, 2023 10:18 am

Orlando list this game at the FT line, of all places. For Orlando to give up 34 FT attempts is sad, and for Milwaukee to convert on 32 of them is really remarkable. The Bucks was focused at the line.

I can't recall a team making 32 FTs. WOW.

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Post#169 » by drsd » Wed Mar 8, 2023 10:20 am

Glad half-full quote of the day is almost a glass is full stat.

Orlando took 100 FG attempts. ONE HUNDRED!!!!!

And converted on 50. wow. That is outstanding.

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Post#170 » by JoshuaPotter » Wed Mar 8, 2023 1:43 pm

drsd wrote:Suggs does his best G-Harris impression by being totally absent on offense in all ways.

I am sick of this team playing 4 on 5 on offensive sets given the lack of a competent SG. A capable starting SG and a capable backup SG are the major needs of this team moving forward. My chatbot statement of the day.


LOL you gave me 3 in a row of chat bot level comments to work with.

Frankly we lost this on veteran play I think. The Bucks had 2 great players out, but the rest are no slouches and in the case of Lopez if you wanted an NBA system to revive your defensive (or in this case invigorate) and offensive potential and keep you playing up until 40 this is it.

Yes, we also lost to FT attempts but that's also my point. These guys know how to find the win. The turned on the heat to lead by 10 and essentially cruised when needed from there.

Yes, the 4 v 5 and in some cases I feel like its 3 v 5 is heart to listen too. Much less I can't imagine if you are a fan paying to watch games.....
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Post#171 » by Bergmaniac » Wed Mar 8, 2023 2:25 pm

drsd wrote:Suggs does his best G-Harris impression by being totally absent on offense in all ways.

I am sick of this team playing 4 on 5 on offensive sets given the lack of a competent SG. A capable starting SG and a capable backup SG are the major needs of this team moving forward. My chatbot statement of the day.

It's not the SGs, it's our ballhandlers (Fultz, Paolo, Franz, Cole). They are all scorers first and not that good at getting the ball to our SG and often completely ignore them. I think Suggs touched the ball on offense 15 times at most in the front court for the whole game. When you look at how someone like Joe Ingles runs the pick and roll and gets easy looks for his teammates and compare it to our ballhandlers the difference is night and day.

But of course, the main issue in this game was defense. We didn't play any. Thankfully Giannis didn't play or we could have easily conceded 150. Even Suggs played subpar on that end.
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Post#172 » by Knightro » Wed Mar 8, 2023 3:03 pm

drsd wrote:Suggs does his best G-Harris impression by being totally absent on offense in all ways.

I am sick of this team playing 4 on 5 on offensive sets given the lack of a competent SG. A capable starting SG and a capable backup SG are the major needs of this team moving forward. My chatbot statement of the day.


They play 4 on 5 on offense every game, but not for the reasons you think.
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Re: 2022-2023 Regular Season Game 66: Milwaukee Bucks (46-18) at Orlando Magic (27-38) - 7pm 

Post#173 » by Knightro » Wed Mar 8, 2023 3:09 pm

Bergmaniac wrote:It's not the SGs, it's our ballhandlers (Fultz, Paolo, Franz, Cole). They are all scorers first and not that good at getting the ball to our SG and often completely ignore them. I think Suggs touched the ball on offense 15 times at most in the front court for the whole game.


Ding ding ding.

Jalen Suggs only touched the ball 9 times in the front court yesterday. Within those 9 front court touches, he attempted 4 shots and had 2 assists. He was "invisible" because he simply wasn't being passed the ball.

Against Portland he touched it 31 times in the front court.
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Post#174 » by Nyce_1 » Wed Mar 8, 2023 3:13 pm

I like Goga a lot. Low-usage players that just fit with everyone pull on my heartstrings. We should have him for a while. Smart & unselfish player.
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Post#175 » by Bergmaniac » Wed Mar 8, 2023 3:26 pm

Knightro wrote:
Bergmaniac wrote:It's not the SGs, it's our ballhandlers (Fultz, Paolo, Franz, Cole). They are all scorers first and not that good at getting the ball to our SG and often completely ignore them. I think Suggs touched the ball on offense 15 times at most in the front court for the whole game.


Ding ding ding.

Jalen Suggs only touched the ball 9 times in the front court yesterday. Within those 9 front court touches, he attempted 4 shots and had 2 assists. He was "invisible" because he simply wasn't being passed the ball.

Against Portland he touched it 31 times in the front court.

I wrote "10 times at most" at first, went to check the stats to give the actual numbers, but they weren't updated yet and then decided it can't be that low and changed it to "less than 15". Turns out I was right the first time. 9 touches is just an absurdly low number for a starter who played 26 minutes.
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Post#176 » by drsd » Wed Mar 8, 2023 3:46 pm

Bergmaniac wrote:
drsd wrote:Suggs does his best G-Harris impression by being totally absent on offense in all ways.

I am sick of this team playing 4 on 5 on offensive sets given the lack of a competent SG. A capable starting SG and a capable backup SG are the major needs of this team moving forward. My chatbot statement of the day.

It's not the SGs, it's our ballhandlers (Fultz, Paolo, Franz, Cole). They are all scorers first and not that good at getting the ball to our SG and often completely ignore them. I think Suggs touched the ball on offense 15 times at most in the front court for the whole game. When you look at how someone like Joe Ingles runs the pick and roll and gets easy looks for his teammates and compare it to our ballhandlers the difference is night and day.

But of course, the main issue in this game was defense. We didn't play any. Thankfully Giannis didn't play or we could have easily conceded 150. Even Suggs played subpar on that end.


The 4 starters named not-Suggs combined for 58 FG attempts. It's on Suggs to get the ball. There were plenty of opportunities.

As to Anthony taking 17 FG attempts form the bench, well there were 21 other bench FG attempts. Heck: Bitadze and Bol on the bench got more shots up than Suggs.

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If one wants to blame "the system" for G-Harris and Suggs not getting shots, that's on coach. Not a Magic PG.

At some point we fans do need to be critical on coach that SGs aren't getting looks. Maybe we are already there.
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Re: 2022-2023 Regular Season Game 66: Milwaukee Bucks (46-18) at Orlando Magic (27-38) - 7pm 

Post#177 » by drsd » Wed Mar 8, 2023 4:01 pm

JoshuaPotter wrote:LOL you gave me 3 in a row of chat bot level comments to work with.


Today's bot question:


Me: The Orlando Magic took 100 field goal attempts. Is that a lot?


ChatGPT: Whether 100 field goal attempts is considered a lot depends on various factors such as the pace of the game, the team's usual offensive strategy, and the league average for field goal attempts.

In general, NBA teams take an average of around 85-90 field goal attempts per game, but this can vary depending on the team's style of play. Some teams may prioritize a faster pace of play and take more shots, while others may focus on ball movement and take fewer shots.

Therefore, without more context, it is difficult to determine whether 100 field goal attempts for the Orlando Magic is a lot or not. However, it is worth noting that 100 field goal attempts in a single game is a relatively high number, and it suggests that the team was aggressive in trying to score points.


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Post#178 » by Skybox » Wed Mar 8, 2023 4:08 pm

I would love a more dynamic shot creator in G. Harris' place...he's a very selective shooter (he only takes good, open shots). He makes a lot of what he takes...there's certainly an argument that if he had more open GOOD shots he'd score more (like when he played in DEN and earned an $18m 3&D contract)...let's see, why doesn't G. Harris have open shots? Why does Paolo score so many points banging his way into a crowd and getting to the line? When's the last time Paolo or Franz didn't face a double-team in the paint?

come on man, it's time to face the truth...even if we DO add a high-volume sniper at SG - consider how much better we'd be with another one directing the offense. This is getting like Left/Right politics - facts are getting lost in the partisanship. It's not so much that we want to GET RID of Fultz...I want a good modern PG who spreads the floor in a variety of ways...that's not Fultz.
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Post#179 » by ibraheim718 » Wed Mar 8, 2023 10:35 pm

Knightro wrote:
Bergmaniac wrote:It's not the SGs, it's our ballhandlers (Fultz, Paolo, Franz, Cole). They are all scorers first and not that good at getting the ball to our SG and often completely ignore them. I think Suggs touched the ball on offense 15 times at most in the front court for the whole game.


Ding ding ding.

Jalen Suggs only touched the ball 9 times in the front court yesterday. Within those 9 front court touches, he attempted 4 shots and had 2 assists. He was "invisible" because he simply wasn't being passed the ball.

Against Portland he touched it 31 times in the front court.


Thank you for pointing this out. This feels like what I saw. He should be involved in the offense more but he's doing what he's supposed to be doing in the offense it's up to the others to play along. He was getting froze out of a ton of possessions last game but he doesn't gripe or put his head down.. his head is in the right space at least.
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Post#180 » by ibraheim718 » Wed Mar 8, 2023 10:37 pm

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Bergmaniac wrote:
drsd wrote:Suggs does his best G-Harris impression by being totally absent on offense in all ways.

I am sick of this team playing 4 on 5 on offensive sets given the lack of a competent SG. A capable starting SG and a capable backup SG are the major needs of this team moving forward. My chatbot statement of the day.

It's not the SGs, it's our ballhandlers (Fultz, Paolo, Franz, Cole). They are all scorers first and not that good at getting the ball to our SG and often completely ignore them. I think Suggs touched the ball on offense 15 times at most in the front court for the whole game. When you look at how someone like Joe Ingles runs the pick and roll and gets easy looks for his teammates and compare it to our ballhandlers the difference is night and day.

But of course, the main issue in this game was defense. We didn't play any. Thankfully Giannis didn't play or we could have easily conceded 150. Even Suggs played subpar on that end.


The 4 starters named not-Suggs combined for 58 FG attempts. It's on Suggs to get the ball. There were plenty of opportunities.

As to Anthony taking 17 FG attempts form the bench, well there were 21 other bench FG attempts. Heck: Bitadze and Bol on the bench got more shots up than Suggs.

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If one wants to blame "the system" for G-Harris and Suggs not getting shots, that's on coach. Not a Magic PG.

At some point we fans do need to be critical on coach that SGs aren't getting looks. Maybe we are already there.
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Uhh no.. he's being played off the ball.. it's up to Fultz to make sure everyone gets feed before he feeds himself that's what Jalen would do if he was back at his natural position.

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