Colbinii wrote:dygaction wrote:Colbinii wrote:
No. You are incorrect.
2020 Dallas: 18th in Pace
2021 Dallas: 24th in Pace
2022 Dallas: 30th in Pace
2023 Dallas: 29th in Pace
1987 76ers: 22/23 in Pace
1988 76ers: 22/23 in Pace
1989 76ers: 18/25 in Pace
By the looks of it, multiple seasons of Chuckster included the 2nd to last team in terms of Pace, similar to Luka in 2022 and 2023.
The difference is actually Barkleys teams in this 2 year stretch were -3.5 and -3.6 in terms of Pace while Dallas slowest year was only -3.0.
Once again, you are wrong. CP3 with the Hornets in 2008 and 2009 led teams with a pace of -2.5 and -3.9 [remember Luka never led a pace under -3.0] while CP3s 2011 season clocks in at -3.4.
The Rockets and Clippers were fast [though both had a season -2.0 Pace] but those weren't all CP3 teams [co-star or #2] while we can clearly see when CP3 is the lone-star a la Luka, he plays real slow.
Sure, still better than Luka for me.
notice how you have to include Luka four years but need to hand select Barkley’s 3 and CP3’s 2 year span to make a point as if they were younger than Luka..
No, I did that because I showed you that both Luka and CP3/Barkley had 2-3 seasons where they were in the running for slowest teams in the league. I also did that to show that Luka and CP3/Barkley had seasons where they weren't the slowest teams in the league.
If Luka continues in 2024, 2025 and 2026 to have bottom 2-3 pace teams, then I have the ability to change my opinion on just how much Luka plays slow compared to Barkley/CP3. However, until then, I will use the facts we currently have about the 3 players, which are nearly identical in terms of pace![]()
I think we are done here though. Until next time!
ok, let's pretend 3 weakest seasons out 16 years of Barkley's (2 first round exits and 1 missing playoffs) to best represent his career. During his prime, he had four seasons not passing first round, you gave three consecutive years of them, which shows exactly slow pace did not work for him, lol. When and where he thrived? 93-95 Suns, and the three years they made deep run, Suns were #3, #6, and #2 fastest paced team
