NBA MVP Discussion Thread 2022-23 (pt 3)

[eyeatoma]

At least we are here when Denver and Jokic loses a game. You are no where to be found when Philly and Embiid loses. At least we have the balls to post on realgm. Lol shows your true character. But you be you

My character, Embiid has had a bunch of **** games. I don't spend my life here, posting every time he has one. Why would I come here to post, to **** on him? I'm a fan of his. I like Joker as well. You've got some odd comments, questioning who you think I am. In another thread you were questioning whether I had the right to comment on the situation in Portland. Perhaps it might be a good call on your end to not make things personal.

We have been posting back and forth the last 3 years in this mvp. I have called you out on your **** back then and I will continue to do so. I will also call out jokic for having bad games. Call out other for prematurely calling jokic better than all time greats. Because unlike you I try to be objective when it comes to players I cheer for unlike you. Who wants bring in other bull to prop your guy up like race. I know your character well

You don't know me at all, this will be the last time I'm interacting with you... Good day...

[AleksandarN]

My character, Embiid has had a bunch of **** games. I don't spend my life here, posting every time he has one. Why would I come here to post, to **** on him? I'm a fan of his. I like Joker as well. You've got some odd comments, questioning who you think I am. In another thread you were questioning whether I had the right to comment on the situation in Portland. Perhaps it might be a good call on your end to not make things personal.

We have been posting back and forth the last 3 years in this mvp. I have called you out on your **** back then and I will continue to do so. I will also call out jokic for having bad games. Call out other for prematurely calling jokic better than all time greats. Because unlike you I try to be objective when it comes to players I cheer for unlike you. Who wants bring in other bull to prop your guy up like race. I know your character well

You don't know me at all, this will be the last time I'm interacting with you... Good day...

I only go by your posts. And your posts says it all.

[pipfan]

First time I watched a full Jokic game this year. He had an off game offensively, but we know his all time greatness on that end. But his D was REALLY bad-and this from a Bulls' fan who has to watch Vuc every night.

[eyeatoma]

First time I watched a full Jokic game this year. He had an off game offensively, but we know his all time greatness on that end. But his D was REALLY bad-and this from a Bulls' fan who has to watch Vuc every night.

Dude, haven't you heard? He's handsy on defense...

[Mick Dundee]

Very good Arguments for Embiid and Giannis over Jokic in this Video.

Guess this is what a civilized MVP debate should look like ... ideally.

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[NoDopeOnSundays]

First time I watched a full Jokic game this year. He had an off game offensively, but we know his all time greatness on that end. But his D was REALLY bad-and this from a Bulls' fan who has to watch Vuc every night.

His defense was so bad.

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[eyeatoma]

First time I watched a full Jokic game this year. He had an off game offensively, but we know his all time greatness on that end. But his D was REALLY bad-and this from a Bulls' fan who has to watch Vuc every night.

His defense was so bad.

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Defense doesn't count for the MVP race though right?

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[BelgradeNugget]

First time I watched a full Jokic game this year. He had an off game offensively, but we know his all time greatness on that end. But his D was REALLY bad-and this from a Bulls' fan who has to watch Vuc every night.

His defense was so bad.

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Yes his defense and offense was terrible in this game. Murray was bad. MPJ was bad. AG - meh. Every player has bad games, Jokic is generally most consistent with least number of those games. If anyone is interested in Nuggets D watch Grizzlies game, in 2nd half they played great D. That kind of D makes them top 5 defense in the league in second half of the season.

https://www.nba.com/stats/teams/advanced?Outcome=&sort=DEF_RATING&DateFrom=12%2F18%2F2022

Grizzlies game was important to us, Toronto and Chicago were not.

[eyeatoma]

First time I watched a full Jokic game this year. He had an off game offensively, but we know his all time greatness on that end. But his D was REALLY bad-and this from a Bulls' fan who has to watch Vuc every night.

His defense was so bad.

Read on Twitter

Yes his defense and offense was terrible in this game. Murray was bad. MPJ was bad. AG - meh. Every player has bad games, Jokic is generally most consistent with least number of those games. If anyone is interested in Nuggets D watch Grizzlies game, in 2nd half they played great D. That kind of D makes them top 5 defense in the league in second half of the season.

https://www.nba.com/stats/teams/advanced?Outcome=&sort=DEF_RATING&DateFrom=12%2F18%2F2022

Grizzlies game was important to us, Toronto and Chicago were not.

Can't be choosing when things matter though right?

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[iggymcfrack]

Well the only stat that matters is Jokic had a non all star do something only the greatest player of all time did. Score 40 points in 3 straight playoff games. Jordan was the last player to score 40 points in 3 straight games and that was in 1993.

Just to make it out of the first round of nba playoff.

Jokic needed that type of help to get his only playoff success!

LOL. If that was the only playoff series Jokic won, you might have a point. However, he's actually won 4 playoff series including one where Murray didn't even play.

Murray had to have a crazy (another ) 40 point performance to bail Jokic out of game 7 in the following series.

LOL. There’s no way you’re arguing in good faith here. Jokic got “bailed out” because his #2 had a good game in the Game 7 the Nuggets won by 15 on the road where Jokic put up 16/22/13 with 3 blocks for a +22 to pull off one of the biggest upsets in recent playoff history?

That’s like the people who say Kyrie “bailed out” LeBron against the Warriors. Apparently no one else on the team’s allowed to have a good game no matter how well you play or you suck.

[BelgradeNugget]

His defense was so bad.

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Yes his defense and offense was terrible in this game. Murray was bad. MPJ was bad. AG - meh. Every player has bad games, Jokic is generally most consistent with least number of those games. If anyone is interested in Nuggets D watch Grizzlies game, in 2nd half they played great D. That kind of D makes them top 5 defense in the league in second half of the season.

https://www.nba.com/stats/teams/advanced?Outcome=&sort=DEF_RATING&DateFrom=12%2F18%2F2022

Grizzlies game was important to us, Toronto and Chicago were not.

Can't be choosing when things matter though right?

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Well, 76ers lost to Dallas on 3rd March. Conclusions I could make from 1 game:

1. Embiid scored 35 but 76ers lost - conclusion from 1 game - his points don't translate to wins
2. Embiid was - 16 in 35 minutes, Niang was + 17 in 12 minutes, Harell was +2 in 3 minutes - conclusion from 1 game - 76ers shouldn't play Embiid because they are losing his minutes, they should play Niang and Harell
3. 76ers lost to 8th sead in West - conclusion from 1 game - west>>>>>east, 76ers are pretenders can't beat Dallas

So, how stupid does this sound. As your posts or even worst?
This is why we shouldn't make conclusions from 1 game

[eyeatoma]

LOL. If that was the only playoff series Jokic won, you might have a point. However, he's actually won 4 playoff series including one where Murray didn't even play.

Murray had to have a crazy (another ) 40 point performance to bail Jokic out of game 7 in the following series.

LOL. There’s no way you’re arguing in good faith here. Jokic got “bailed out” because his #2 had a good game in the Game 7 the Nuggets won by 15 on the road where Jokic put up 16/22/13 with 3 blocks for a +22 to pull off one of the biggest upsets in recent playoff history?

That’s like the people who say Kyrie “bailed out” LeBron against the Warriors. Apparently no one else on the team’s allowed to have a good game no matter how well you play or you suck.

Murray had 2 50 point games and a 40 point game in that series. Without those they would not be making the WCF. Who is the one operating in bad faith? Murray was the better player in that series, and that can't be denied.

[eyeatoma]

Yes his defense and offense was terrible in this game. Murray was bad. MPJ was bad. AG - meh. Every player has bad games, Jokic is generally most consistent with least number of those games. If anyone is interested in Nuggets D watch Grizzlies game, in 2nd half they played great D. That kind of D makes them top 5 defense in the league in second half of the season.

https://www.nba.com/stats/teams/advanced?Outcome=&sort=DEF_RATING&DateFrom=12%2F18%2F2022

Grizzlies game was important to us, Toronto and Chicago were not.

Can't be choosing when things matter though right?

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Well, 76ers lost to Dallas on 3rd March. Conclusions I could make from 1 game:

1. Embiid scored 35 but 76ers lost - conclusion from 1 game - his points don't translate to wins
2. Embiid was - 16 in 35 minutes, Niang was + 17 in 12 minutes, Harell was +2 in 3 minutes - conclusion from 1 game - 76ers shouldn't play Embiid because they are losing his minutes, they should play Niang and Harell
3. 76ers lost to 8th sead in West - conclusion from 1 game - west>>>>>east, 76ers are pretenders can't beat Dallas

So, how stupid does this sound. As your posts or even worst?
This is why we shouldn't make conclusions from 1 game

Conclusion I can make is that this was a scheduled loss, and the schedule makers screwed the sixers on the back to back. See what I did there, easy to make excuses. The Sixers played against two of the premier perimeter scorers in the league. One an MVP candidate, and the other probably the best small guard in the league. This is not like losing to the freaking Bulls. Apples and oranges. The Mavs if everything clicks are set to be a real threat in the playoffs, a team that can knock off the Nuggets.

[BelgradeNugget]

Can't be choosing when things matter though right?

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Well, 76ers lost to Dallas on 3rd March. Conclusions I could make from 1 game:

1. Embiid scored 35 but 76ers lost - conclusion from 1 game - his points don't translate to wins
2. Embiid was - 16 in 35 minutes, Niang was + 17 in 12 minutes, Harell was +2 in 3 minutes - conclusion from 1 game - 76ers shouldn't play Embiid because they are losing his minutes, they should play Niang and Harell
3. 76ers lost to 8th sead in West - conclusion from 1 game - west>>>>>east, 76ers are pretenders can't beat Dallas

So, how stupid does this sound. As your posts or even worst?
This is why we shouldn't make conclusions from 1 game

Conclusion I can make is that this was a scheduled loss, and the schedule makers screwed the sixers on the back to back. See what I did there, easy to make excuses. The Sixers played against two of the premier perimeter scorers in the league. One an MVP candidate, and the other probably the best small guard in the league. This is not like losing to the freaking Bulls. Apples and oranges.

Ha, ha, great try. What is your excuse for losing to OKC at home 133-114 on Jan 13.

https://www.espn.com/nba/boxscore/_/gameId/401468781

Man, why are you doing this to yourself. You can't win any discussion. But anyway enough from me.

[eyeatoma]

Well, 76ers lost to Dallas on 3rd March. Conclusions I could make from 1 game:

1. Embiid scored 35 but 76ers lost - conclusion from 1 game - his points don't translate to wins
2. Embiid was - 16 in 35 minutes, Niang was + 17 in 12 minutes, Harell was +2 in 3 minutes - conclusion from 1 game - 76ers shouldn't play Embiid because they are losing his minutes, they should play Niang and Harell
3. 76ers lost to 8th sead in West - conclusion from 1 game - west>>>>>east, 76ers are pretenders can't beat Dallas

So, how stupid does this sound. As your posts or even worst?
This is why we shouldn't make conclusions from 1 game

Conclusion I can make is that this was a scheduled loss, and the schedule makers screwed the sixers on the back to back. See what I did there, easy to make excuses. The Sixers played against two of the premier perimeter scorers in the league. One an MVP candidate, and the other probably the best small guard in the league. This is not like losing to the freaking Bulls. Apples and oranges.

Ha, ha, great try. What is your excuse for losing to OKC at home 133-114 on Jan 13.

https://www.espn.com/nba/boxscore/_/gameId/401468781

Man, why are you doing this to yourself. You can't win any discussion. But anyway enough from me.

You acting like the Bulls/Mavs is the same is what I was reacting to. Two very different examples. I just don't like the excuses when Jokic has a bad game. There's always an excuse. Every single time. There is also an excuse for him to win MVP every single year, when conditions that are put on opposing MVP players are met or considered to be not something that is a criteria, it's brought up as criteria in Jokic's favor.

[BelgradeNugget]

Conclusion I can make is that this was a scheduled loss, and the schedule makers screwed the sixers on the back to back. See what I did there, easy to make excuses. The Sixers played against two of the premier perimeter scorers in the league. One an MVP candidate, and the other probably the best small guard in the league. This is not like losing to the freaking Bulls. Apples and oranges.

Ha, ha, great try. What is your excuse for losing to OKC at home 133-114 on Jan 13.

https://www.espn.com/nba/boxscore/_/gameId/401468781

Man, why are you doing this to yourself. You can't win any discussion. But anyway enough from me.

You acting like the Bulls/Mavs is the same is what I was reacting to. Two very different examples. I just don't like the excuses when Jokic has a bad game. There's always an excuse. Every single time. There is also an excuse for him to win MVP every single year, when conditions that are put on opposing MVP players are met or considered to be not something that is a criteria, it's brought up as criteria in Jokic's favor.

I never had any excuses for Jokic's bad game. He was REALLY BAD. OK. I just said you can't make conclusion on one game. Capissi?

[eyeatoma]

Ha, ha, great try. What is your excuse for losing to OKC at home 133-114 on Jan 13.

https://www.espn.com/nba/boxscore/_/gameId/401468781

Man, why are you doing this to yourself. You can't win any discussion. But anyway enough from me.

You acting like the Bulls/Mavs is the same is what I was reacting to. Two very different examples. I just don't like the excuses when Jokic has a bad game. There's always an excuse. Every single time. There is also an excuse for him to win MVP every single year, when conditions that are put on opposing MVP players are met or considered to be not something that is a criteria, it's brought up as criteria in Jokic's favor.

I never had any excuses for Jokic's bad game. He was REALLY BAD. OK. I just said you can't make conclusion on one game. Capissi?

Yes fair enough.

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[LessEyeTest]

Feels good knowing that Jokic has the MVP wrapped up, bad game or not. :B

It's getting a bit concerning how apathetic the Nuggets have looked the past couple games. The Toronto game was brutal, but last night's game...man. Jokic's teammates need to start playing with more energy and effort ... we know Jokic is trying hard because he's the biggest stat padder in the league.

[eyeatoma]

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[Mickey8]

First time I watched a full Jokic game this year. He had an off game offensively, but we know his all time greatness on that end. But his D was REALLY bad-and this from a Bulls' fan who has to watch Vuc every night.

His defense was so bad.

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His offense was worse.