Mouhamed Gueye

[Big J]

This guy is super smooth for 6-11. Moves more like a 6'6 guy, but he still has physicality of a big man. I could see him being a steal.

[EvanZ]

Already had a thread my guy:

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[Big J]

Damn, **** was buried.

[EvanZ]

Yeah nobody watches PAC-12 lol


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[Big J]

I could see him developing into a stronger better passing Chris Boucher. These African dudes are late bloomers, so it's very likely we are only seeing the early stages of his potential.

[The-Power]

I could see him developing into a stronger better passing Chris Boucher.

For starters, Boucher is two tiers above him as a shot blocker. Also just a on different level as a finisher. And the scoring efficiency and shot blocking combination is almost the entire appeal of Boucher in the NBA.

[EvanZ]

I could see him developing into a stronger better passing Chris Boucher.

For starters, Boucher is two tiers above him as a shot blocker. Also just a on different level as a finisher. And the scoring efficiency and shot blocking combination is almost the entire appeal of Boucher in the NBA.

Boucher is a weird comp regardless. First of all dude was like 24 coming out of college. Second, the value proposition of Mo Gueye is his ability to handle and bass the ball and potentially be an offensive hub. Boucher is nothing like that. He's a play finisher.

[Big J]

I could see him developing into a stronger better passing Chris Boucher.

For starters, Boucher is two tiers above him as a shot blocker. Also just a on different level as a finisher. And the scoring efficiency and shot blocking combination is almost the entire appeal of Boucher in the NBA.

Boucher is a weird comp regardless. First of all dude was like 24 coming out of college. Second, the value proposition of Mo Gueye is his ability to handle and bass the ball and potentially be an offensive hub. Boucher is nothing like that. He's a play finisher.

All of these African dudes are late bloomers. Stylistically it sounds like he’s more of a spicy P type I guess.

[EvanZ]

For starters, Boucher is two tiers above him as a shot blocker. Also just a on different level as a finisher. And the scoring efficiency and shot blocking combination is almost the entire appeal of Boucher in the NBA.

Boucher is a weird comp regardless. First of all dude was like 24 coming out of college. Second, the value proposition of Mo Gueye is his ability to handle and bass the ball and potentially be an offensive hub. Boucher is nothing like that. He's a play finisher.

All of these African dudes are late bloomers. Stylistically it sounds like he’s more of a spicy P type I guess.

I didn't want to go there b/c i know people would freak out with that comp, but basically that's more of my hope for him. Long shot for sure. Siakam was much stronger and basically had outlier skill development once he got to the NBA. But I think starting around pick 25 or really any second round pick it's a potential high reward low risk bet.

[Big J]

The way he moves, defends and passes for his size is pretty damn special. I’m super high on him.

[EvanZ]

Measured 6'10.25" barefoot, which means he's basically our old definition of what a 7-footer is in shoes. 7'3" ws and 9'2.5" standing reach. At 212 lbs he really only needs to put on about 10-15 lbs in time to be a really special kind of perimeter big or big wing potentially. Surprised he doesn't have more first round buzz.

[Big J]

Same. Warriors should draft this kid. He’d be perfect in their system.

[165bows]

Could see the Celtics taking a swing on this guy if he's there at 35. They love big guys that can handle and/or pass.

[Chuck Everett]

His range is all over the place (17-40), but he definitely has a future in the NBA. If he falls to 33, I could see San Antonio taking a flyer to add him to Wemby, Sochan, Bassey, Collins and Barlow

[ejftw]

Gueye has among the highest offensive ceilings in this draft imo, it's just his floor is probably the lowest as well. I see him going late second.

I remember watching him with Prolific Prep, but if mans had played for Compton Magic, he'd be locked in as a teens pick.

[clyde21]

Gueye has among the highest offensive ceilings in this draft imo, it's just his floor is probably the lowest as well. I see him going late second.

I remember watching him with Prolific Prep, but if mans had played for Compton Magic, he'd be locked in as a teens pick.

i believe he's only played organized bball like 3 years at this point, so yea he's super raw, his range of outcomes is pretty wide.

[Hal14]

Bumping this.

I'm higher on Gueye now than I used to be. Seen a mock today by Wasserman that had Clowney 26th and Gueye 50th.

But I think one could make a case for taking Gueye over Clowney. Here's what the case looks like:

Advantage Clowney
-Age. Clowney = 1 year, 8 months younger
-Was simply better and more productive as a freshman (in 22-23) than Gueye was as a freshman (in 21-22), and Clowney did it in a tougher conference

Advantage Gueye
-Face up game, putting the ball on the floor, creating own shot. Gueye with a decent sized edge here
-Size. Gueye = 1" taller, 1" more wingspan, 2 lbs heavier. Small edge for Gueye, but it's an edge.
-Passing / playmaking. Gueye with a solid edge here
-More moves around the basket, more polished low post game
-Defending in space out on the perimeter. Gueye is a little better here. Clowney with some stuff to clean up, sometimes his positioning isn't good, takes poor angles or footwork is off.

They're about even
-Ability as a lob catcher / lob finisher
-Rebounding
-Rim protection
-Shooting. About the same 3 pt % this season. Both started the season off shooting very poorly but both shot the ball much better from 3 as the season went on (Gueye shot 35% from 3 over his last 20 games, while Clowney shot 31% over his last 29 games and 33% over his last 16 games). Clowney significantly higher volume, while also being younger and playing in a tougher conference, BUT Gueye has a smoother shooting form - it's a smooth/fluid motion, whereas Clowney has funky form, where it's like a push shot - looks like he is launching a catapult when he shoots it, so might need some tweaking. Also, Gueye has been able to hit shots off the dribble, whereas Clowney has only been a catch and shoot guy. Clowney did shoot it pretty well at his pro day, though so I'll call it about even
-Motor, hustle, effort
-Runs like a deer. The way they can move up and down the floor with such quickness and fluidity for a big man is very impressive

Thoughts?

[EvanZ]

I mean people are obviously way too low on Mo. I currently have Mo around 20 several spots ahead of Clowney. I honestly think it's just a function of nobody watching west coast basketball.