2023 NFL Draft Thread - Round 1 Thursday 7:00 PM

[wege1988]

I'm expecting more mock drafts from everyone post Rodgers

I did Aaron Rodgers to Jets for #43 + 2024 3rd.

15 - Jaxon Smith-Njigba, WR Ohio State
43 - Ed Ojulari, ED LSU
45 - Luke Musgrave, TE Oregon State
78 - Jammie Robinson, S Florida State
116 - Tre'Vius Hodges-Tomlinson, CB TCU
151 - Dorian Williams, LB Tulane
171 - Cam Jones, LB Indiana
234 - Justin Shorter, WR Florida
237 - Cameron Young, DL Mississippi State
244 - Leonard Taylor, TE Cincinnati
256 - Brandon Hill, S Pittsburgh
259 - Max Duggan, QB TCU

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[LUKE23]

I hear the "don't take a TE in the 1st" argument, but I feel like the guys we want will be gone by 47. Assuming we get 13 from the Jets, I want Kincaid or Washington with one of our 1sts. I like both a ton. Neither is there for our 2nd or anywhere close.

Van Ness and one of those two TE is my ideal realistic 1st round right now. I also love Witherspoon if he slips.

[ReasonablySober]

PFF's latest mock has the Packers going with JSN at #13 and Kincaid at #15. That'd be fun.

[LUKE23]

PFF's latest mock has the Packers going with JSN at #13 and Kincaid at #15. That'd be fun.

Not against that either. I think Edge is a MASSIVE need if its in line with BPA given our roster and Gary's injury, but it would also be fun to load up for Love.

[MoMM]

I hear the "don't take a TE in the 1st" argument, but I feel like the guys we want will be gone by 47. Assuming we get 13 from the Jets, I want Kincaid or Washington with one of our 1sts. I like both a ton. Neither is there for our 2nd or anywhere close.

Van Ness and one of those two TE is my ideal realistic 1st round right now. I also love Witherspoon if he slips.

Well, we can trade down from #13 or #15 and still get one of those TEs... For example, we gave #30 and a 4th for #26 (Love), maybe we can get some extra 3rd/4th by trading down 5-10 spots.

[IrishRainbow]

PFF's latest mock has the Packers going with JSN at #13 and Kincaid at #15. That'd be fun.

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[Ron Swanson]

The "don't take a TE in the 1st round" argument is a relic from past eras where the pass-catching TE position was never prioritized or valued by NFL teams in favor of RB's and WR's. Look around right now and most of the best offenses are utilizing versatile/athletic TE's that can line up anywhere (Kittle in San Fran, Kelce in KC, Goedtert in Philly, Hockenson in Minny, Noah Fant in Seattle, etc.). That a bunch of those guys went in the later rounds of the draft, or in some historical cases weren't drafted at all (Antonio Gates, Jimmy Graham) isn't evidence that you should stick to that stubborn philosophy. It's evidence that those guys should have been drafted a lot higher than they were, and teams are now figuring out the value of having an awesome TE that can open up the middle of the field in the passing game.

[M-C-G]

PFF's latest mock has the Packers going with JSN at #13 and Kincaid at #15. That'd be fun.

I feel complete. Very possible that Kincaid is a star in the making and JSN is every bit as good or better (albeit probably slower) than Wilson/Olave.

Our offense would have absolutely incredibly pieces to work with, maybe add a new Swervin Ervin guy like Nate Dell, Deuce Vaughn or Devon Achane too while we are at it.

[sdn40]

The data is out there for not wasting a First Round pick on a TE. A link was even posted. Why fans just ignore it is hilarious to me. And there are TE's available after the First Round. It's been proven you can pretty much throw them in a hat and pick one out

[LUKE23]

The data is out there for not wasting a First Round pick on a TE. A link was even posted. Why fans just ignore it is hilarious to me. And there are TE's available after the First Round. It's been proven you can pretty much throw them in a hat and pick one out

You can't just say every draft is the same for a position, it's based on the actual prospects. Like this year - the TE prospects are better than the WR prospects in terms of how they rank verses players already in the NFL. You don't draft based on position, you draft based on the prospect. Yes, need also factors in, but you don't pigeon-hole positions.

[sdn40]

The data is out there for not wasting a First Round pick on a TE. A link was even posted. Why fans just ignore it is hilarious to me. And there are TE's available after the First Round. It's been proven you can pretty much throw them in a hat and pick one out

You can't just say every draft is the same for a position, it's based on the actual prospects. Like this year - the TE prospects are better than the WR prospects in terms of how they rank verses players already in the NFL. You don't draft based on position, you draft based on the prospect. Yes, need also factors in, but you don't pigeon-hole positions.

Ok. The data for the last 10 years (minimum) says don't take a TE in the First Round. Madden has melted fans brains. They will find a way to justify a gadget guy - like with Amari, and now a TE. Who needs Edge Rushers or DL anyway, right ? TE is not a premium position, and one of the slowest to make an impact. Those are not opinions - they are facts.

[LUKE23]

Ok. The data for the last 10 years (minimum) says don't take a TE in the First Round. Madden has melted fans brains. They will find a way to justify a gadget guy - like with Amari, and now a TE. Who needs Edge Rushers or DL anyway, right ? TE is not a premium position, and one of the slowest to make an impact. Those are not opinions - they are facts.

[TroyD92]

Really think the Packers need a safety at some point. Not sure if Branch, the guy from Illinois or what.

[WeekapaugGroove]

Under Gute the Packers have drafted a RB in the 2nd round, a H-Back in the 3rd, a MLB in the 1st. I don't think they really follow the 'draft only premium positions high' manta so yeah I think a TE is a possibility.

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[sdn40]

Ok. The data for the last 10 years (minimum) says don't take a TE in the First Round. Madden has melted fans brains. They will find a way to justify a gadget guy - like with Amari, and now a TE. Who needs Edge Rushers or DL anyway, right ? TE is not a premium position, and one of the slowest to make an impact. Those are not opinions - they are facts.

Can you even name our Edge Rushers ? Who starts on the DL this year ?

[TroyD92]

Ok. The data for the last 10 years (minimum) says don't take a TE in the First Round. Madden has melted fans brains. They will find a way to justify a gadget guy - like with Amari, and now a TE. Who needs Edge Rushers or DL anyway, right ? TE is not a premium position, and one of the slowest to make an impact. Those are not opinions - they are facts.

Can you even name our Edge Rushers ? Who starts on the DL this year ?

Think its about value this draft seems pretty deep at edge.

[sdn40]

Can you even name our Edge Rushers ? Who starts on the DL this year ?

Think its about value this draft seems pretty deep at edge.

As it is at TE. But one is a premium position and one is not

[TroyD92]

Can you even name our Edge Rushers ? Who starts on the DL this year ?

Think its about value this draft seems pretty deep at edge.

As it is at TE. But one is a premium position and one is not

Yeah I suppose. I'm not opposed to either honestly. I also think the Packers could draft two TE's with the total lack of depth/talent

[ReasonablySober]

I don't think anyone would have a problem with an edge rusher at #15. But Kincaid looks like a weapon at WR. If it makes you sleep better, just think of him as a WR, because that's what he is. He's not a blocker.