Woj: Isaac Out for the Year After Surgery on Torn Adductor

[tiderulz]

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Time to cut ties.. I’m over trying to support this dude

i dont hate him. he just can't stay healthy.

[Audi]

absolutely brutal but made me laugh

[ChosenSavior]

absolutely brutal but made me laugh

Damn the web is savage

[thelead]

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Time to cut ties.. I’m over trying to support this dude

I find this type of take funny (and there are a lot that say this kind of thing)... How have you supported JI? What is so difficult in how you support JI? Are you physically or mentally exhausted with how much you supported him?

I'm so indifferent. Got a lot going on in my own life. If he plays, great. If he doesn't, let's get a massive discount on him and see how it goes. But either way, I'm not losing ANY sleep over it nor am I over 'supporting' him, whatever that means.

[thelead]

absolutely brutal but made me laugh

[davey_wavy]

I nearly got fired for having the flu.

This guy is my idol

[TSonn]

Lol did you forget that when he suffered the mcl, the team opted to just therapy him instead of going under the knife. So when he got injured again during the bubble, the team got some heat because JI’s injury is on the same knee that the team chose to therapy instead of surgically repair.

That’s why woj reported his rehab for the bubble injury will be significantly longer.

You remember it being the team's decision to not do surgery, I remember it being JI's decision. I can't find any articles on this now... do you have anything to correct my memory?

didnt find any report about that. But i do recall the initial assessment of his injury after the mri being positive, but the team later said there was no structural damage and downgraded it to a severe sprain instead.

Yes, I remember that too but surgery was still the fastest route back to the court yet JI and his team opted for the natural healing process i.e. a 3x longer rehab.

Obviously it's his body and he can choose how he wants it to heal but it was a bad look back then and probably even worse now in hindsight with how long his ACL rehab took and his lack of urgency in returning to the court.

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[fendilim]

You remember it being the team's decision to not do surgery, I remember it being JI's decision. I can't find any articles on this now... do you have anything to correct my memory?

didnt find any report about that. But i do recall the initial assessment of his injury after the mri being positive, but the team later said there was no structural damage and downgraded it to a severe sprain instead.

Yes, I remember that too but surgery was still the fastest route back to the court yet JI and his team opted for the natural healing process i.e. a 3x longer rehab.

Obviously it's his body and he can choose how he wants it to heal but it was a bad look back then and probably even worse now in hindsight with how long his ACL rehab took and his lack of urgency in returning to the court.

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Seems we are both wrong. Ji’s injury in 2020 didnt require surgery.

https://orlandomagicdaily.com/2020/07/01/jonathan-isaac-al-farouq-aminus-rehab-continue-orlando-magic-return-still-possible/

Isaac suffered a posterior lateral corner injury to his left knee on Jan. 1 when his knee wrapped around Bradley Beal’s leg while trying to make a Euro step move in transition. The injury was not as catastrophic as it could have been — it did not require surgery — but the sprain was severe.

[basketballRob]

didnt find any report about that. But i do recall the initial assessment of his injury after the mri being positive, but the team later said there was no structural damage and downgraded it to a severe sprain instead.

Yes, I remember that too but surgery was still the fastest route back to the court yet JI and his team opted for the natural healing process i.e. a 3x longer rehab.

Obviously it's his body and he can choose how he wants it to heal but it was a bad look back then and probably even worse now in hindsight with how long his ACL rehab took and his lack of urgency in returning to the court.

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Seems we are both wrong. Ji’s injury in 2020 didnt require surgery.

https://orlandomagicdaily.com/2020/07/01/jonathan-isaac-al-farouq-aminus-rehab-continue-orlando-magic-return-still-possible/

Isaac suffered a posterior lateral corner injury to his left knee on Jan. 1 when his knee wrapped around Bradley Beal’s leg while trying to make a Euro step move in transition. The injury was not as catastrophic as it could have been — it did not require surgery — but the sprain was severe.

It was the same injury as Paige Bueckers, and then she came back a few months later and tore her ACL.

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[TSonn]

didnt find any report about that. But i do recall the initial assessment of his injury after the mri being positive, but the team later said there was no structural damage and downgraded it to a severe sprain instead.

Yes, I remember that too but surgery was still the fastest route back to the court yet JI and his team opted for the natural healing process i.e. a 3x longer rehab.

Obviously it's his body and he can choose how he wants it to heal but it was a bad look back then and probably even worse now in hindsight with how long his ACL rehab took and his lack of urgency in returning to the court.

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Seems we are both wrong. Ji’s injury in 2020 didnt require surgery.

https://orlandomagicdaily.com/2020/07/01/jonathan-isaac-al-farouq-aminus-rehab-continue-orlando-magic-return-still-possible/

Isaac suffered a posterior lateral corner injury to his left knee on Jan. 1 when his knee wrapped around Bradley Beal’s leg while trying to make a Euro step move in transition. The injury was not as catastrophic as it could have been — it did not require surgery — but the sprain was severe.

We already knew surgery wasn't required since he never got surgery for that injury until he tore his ACL in his 3rd or 4th game back.

I broke my wrist playing basketball a few years ago and it didn't require surgery but surgery was an option to ensure a better and significantly faster healing/rehab process. I chose surgery and I was playing sports again in 4 weeks instead of 12.

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[Magic_Kingdom]

For those saying it would be worth it to keep Isaac on a cheaper deal — I assume you mean 2 years from now? If the Magic don’t waive him, he is guaranteed $17.4 million per over the next 2 seasons. He will be 27 and going into his ninth year in the league when this deal expires.

[MagicTownBaller]

For those saying it would be worth it to keep Isaac on a cheaper deal — I assume you mean 2 years from now? If the Magic don’t waive him, he is guaranteed $17.4 million per over the next 2 seasons. He will be 27 and going into his ninth year in the league when this deal expires.

9th year and has only played 147 games in 6 seasons.

[Skybox]

For those saying it would be worth it to keep Isaac on a cheaper deal — I assume you mean 2 years from now? If the Magic don’t waive him, he is guaranteed $17.4 million per over the next 2 seasons. He will be 27 and going into his ninth year in the league when this deal expires.

right...and don't expect him to be "so grateful" to our loyalty that he gets to 100% but re-signs for less than his value. It doesn't work that way - ever!

Time to go. Sorry bro, I was Team Isaac all the way.

[Howard Mass]

I would not waive Isaac this summer unless The Magic need the near 10 million in capspace or saw a good trade opportunity.

It's a different injury and he was coming along nicely before it.

[Skybox]

any word on JI's prognosis....my initial reaction was "Ok. I'm finally out on Isaac" and may still be..but, man, could he help us.

If they don't waive him AND he then doesn't play all season

I know there's a real chance that someone else could scoop him up for pennies and he becomes DPOY for them but I'm starting to get comfortable with that being an acceptable minuscule risk.

[basketballRob]

I'm sure they will give him up until January 1st or whenever the cutoff date is to guarantee his contract.

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[pepe1991]

During Pelicans vs Warriors game, in Zion discussion it was shown who are top 5 players with most missed games since 2019 ( i think?).

Isaac -250 games
nobody else more than 178.

Even if that gap doesn't sound like much, 78 games is lenght of one season. In other words, he is more injuried that second most injuried player in nba- by lenght of one whole season.

At some point you just have to sit him , sit few medical experts and have honest conversation. Is basketball really worth all this ESPECIALLY since you don't really play basketball. Or, if you love game that much, fine, seek out Brandon Roy to see how to become coach.

[Bensational]

His body simply can’t handle the rigours of the game. Bynum, Oden, Roy, Bender are all similar stories. Now possibly Lonzo. Gifted players, but unable to stay healthy.

He got injured and required surgery on his hamstring whilst he was still in rehab. He came back on 10pm every other game and injured his abductor. Honestly, the guy could cripple himself for life if he tries again.

For that reason alone I can see WeHam honouring his final contract year just to make sure he’s set for life and future medical expenses, but I don’t think he’s in their plans anymore as a player.

[Skybox]

His body simply can’t handle the rigours of the game. Bynum, Oden, Roy, Bender are all similar stories. Now possibly Lonzo. Gifted players, but unable to stay healthy.

He got injured and required surgery on his hamstring whilst he was still in rehab. He came back on 10pm every other game and injured his abductor. Honestly, the guy could cripple himself for life if he tries again.

For that reason alone I can see WeHam honouring his final contract year just to make sure he’s set for life and future medical expenses, but I don’t think he’s in their plans anymore as a player.

He's already set for life...I never get this mentality when we write contracts with outs in them and we survive under a salary cap. He's half of a max deal available for exactly why the contract was written that way. Sorry I'm a mean guy

[Bensational]

His body simply can’t handle the rigours of the game. Bynum, Oden, Roy, Bender are all similar stories. Now possibly Lonzo. Gifted players, but unable to stay healthy.

He got injured and required surgery on his hamstring whilst he was still in rehab. He came back on 10pm every other game and injured his abductor. Honestly, the guy could cripple himself for life if he tries again.

For that reason alone I can see WeHam honouring his final contract year just to make sure he’s set for life and future medical expenses, but I don’t think he’s in their plans anymore as a player.

He's already set for life...I never get this mentality when we write contracts with outs in them and we survive under a salary cap. He's half of a max deal available for exactly why the contract was written that way. Sorry I'm a mean guy

I think WeHam have written some smart contracts which have given them options should they feel the team needs it. If they saw a no brainer move, like they could get the next Mitchell and the team was ready for that addition, they’d use that contract out to get it done if needed. But their whole approach since coming here has seemed to be more about rebuilding the franchise reputation amongst players. Giving guys time to prove themselves, preferring internal growth over quick fix additions, and giving our players a place they feel secure and wanted.

It’ll hopefully pay off down the line with the right big name who doesn’t want to be the next Westbrook getting bounced around the league.