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Re: Re: 2023 Draft Prospect discussion Part II 

Post#981 » by Indeed » Thu Mar 9, 2023 7:51 pm

Rapsfan07 wrote:
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The shot is money and he's a real athlete at his size. This guy can be the PF Mikal Bridges if we put him through a ball handling program

25/10 with 2 blocks in his last game. 9/14 from the field.

I'm officially a Taylor Hendricks fan account


How are you acquiring a high enough pick to select him? Packaging Raps pick and hoping the 7th or 8th team is willing to move theirs for ours and what else?


How high does everyone think Hendricks is going?

Tankathon has him at #23
NBADraftRoom has him at #10
The Ringer has him at #14


It depends on his measurement. If he measures 7'4 wingspan and being capable of a shot blocker with 3 point shooting at NBA level, he could be in the top 10.
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Re: Re: 2023 Draft Prospect discussion Part II 

Post#982 » by REJECTEDBYCLARK » Thu Mar 9, 2023 8:10 pm

Hendricks playing this guy broadcasts cbb on youtube

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Re: 2023 Draft Prospect discussion Part II 

Post#983 » by OakleyDokely » Thu Mar 9, 2023 8:13 pm

latest givony mock

First round
1. Detroit Pistons

Victor Wembanyama | Metropolitans 92 | PF/C | Age: 19.1

More: How to watch Wembanyama, his stats, schedule and news

2. Houston Rockets

Scoot Henderson | G League Ignite | PG | Age: 19.0

3. San Antonio Spurs

Brandon Miller | Alabama | SF | Age: 20.2

4. Charlotte Hornets

Amen Thompson | Overtime Elite | PG/SG | Age: 20.0

5. Orlando Magic

Ausar Thompson | Overtime Elite | SG/SF | Age: 20.0

6. Indiana Pacers

Jarace Walker | Houston | PF | Age: 19.5

7. Utah Jazz

Nick Smith Jr. | Arkansas | PG/SG| Age: 18.8

8. Oklahoma City Thunder

Cam Whitmore | Villanova | SF/PF | Age: 18.6

9. Orlando Magic (from Chicago)

Keyonte George | Baylor | SG | Age: 19.3

10. Portland Trail Blazers

Anthony Black | Arkansas | PG/SG | Age: 19.1

11. Washington Wizards

Gradey Dick | Kansas | SG/SF | Age: 19.2

12. New Orleans Pelicans

Jalen Hood-Schifino | Indiana | PG/SG | Age: 19.7

13. Los Angeles Lakers

Cason Wallace | Kentucky | PG/SG | Age: 19.3

14. Atlanta Hawks

Taylor Hendricks | UCF | PF | Age: 19.2

15. Toronto Raptors

Jett Howard | Michigan | SG/SF | Age: 19.4

16. Utah Jazz (from Minnesota)

Rayan Rupert | New Zealand Breakers | SG/SF | Age: 18.6

17. Miami Heat

Kyle Filipowski | Duke | PF/C | Age: 19.3

18. Golden State Warriors

Brice Sensabaugh | Ohio St. | SF/PF | Age: 19.3

19. New York Knicks (from Dallas)

Kris Murray | Iowa | PF | Age: 22.5

20. Houston Rockets (from LA Clippers)

Dereck Lively II | Duke | C | Age: 19.0

21. Brooklyn Nets

Kobe Bufkin | Michigan | PG/SG | Age: 19.4

22. Brooklyn Nets (from Phoenix)

Leonard Miller | G League Ignite | SF/PF | Age: 19.2

23. Sacramento Kings

Jordan Hawkins | Connecticut | SG | Age: 20.8

24. Memphis Grizzlies

Maxwell Lewis | Pepperdine | SF | Age: 20.5

25. Portland Trail Blazers (from New York)

James Nnaji | Barcelona | C | Age: 18.5

26. Indiana Pacers (from Cleveland)

Colby Jones | Xavier | SF | Age: 20.7

27. Utah Jazz (from Philadelphia)

Gregory Jackson II | South Carolina | PF/C | Age: 18.2

28. Indiana Pacers (from Boston)

Noah Clowney | Alabama | PF | Age: 18.6

29. Charlotte Hornets (from Denver)

Dariq Whitehead | Duke | SG/SF | Age: 18.5

30. LA Clippers (from Milwaukee)

Trayce Jackson-Davis | Indiana | PF/C | Age: 23.0

Second round
31. Detroit Pistons

Sidy Cissoko | G League Ignite | SG/SF | Age: 18.9

32. Indiana Pacers (from Houston)

Kel'el Ware | Oregon | C | Age: 18.8

33. San Antonio Spurs

Dillon Mitchell | Texas | PF | Age: 19.4

34. Charlotte Hornets

Terquavion Smith | NC State | SG | Age: 20.1

35. Orlando Magic

Marcus Sasser | Houston | PG/SG | Age: 22.4

36. Sacramento Kings (from Indiana)

Jaime Jaquez Jr. | UCLA | SF | Age: 22.0

37. Charlotte Hornets (from Utah)

Keyontae Johnson | Kansas St. | SF | Age: 22.5

38. Oklahoma City Thunder

Bilal Coulibaly | Metropolitans 92 | SF | Age: 18.6

39. Washington Wizards (from Chicago)

Brandin Podziemski | Santa Clara | SG | Age: 20.0

40. Boston Celtics (from Portland)

Mouhamed Gueye | Washington State | PF/C | Age: 20.3

41. Denver Nuggets (from Washington)

Ricky Council IV | Arkansas | SG/SF | Age: 21.5

42. New Orleans Pelicans

Nikola Durisic | MEGA MIS | SG/SF | Age: 19.0

43. Los Angeles Lakers

Coleman Hawkins | Illinois | PF | Age: 21.2

44. Portland Trail Blazers (from Atlanta)

Jalen Wilson | Kansas | SF/PF | Age: 22.3

45. San Antonio Spurs (from Toronto)

Zach Edey | Purdue | C | Age: 20.8

46. Memphis Grizzlies (from Minnesota)

Adem Bona | UCLA | C | Age: 19.9

47. Boston Celtics (from Miami)

Julian Phillips | Tennessee | SF | Age: 19.3

48. Cleveland Cavaliers (from Golden State)

Tristan Vukcevic | Partizan | PF/C | Age: 19.9

49. Denver Nuggets (from Dallas)

Terrence Shannon Jr. | Illinois | SG/SF | Age: 22.6

50. LA Clippers

Reece Beekman | Virginia | PG | Age: 21.4

51. Brooklyn Nets

Andre Jackson | UConn | SG/SF | Age: 21.3

52. Phoenix Suns

Emoni Bates | Eastern Michigan | SG/SF | Age: 19.1

53. Sacramento Kings

Baylor Scheierman | Creighton | SF | Age: 22.4

54. Memphis Grizzlies

Ryan Kalkbrenner | Creighton | C | Age: 21.1

55. Minnesota Timberwolves (from New York)

Jaylen Clark | UCLA | SG/SF | Age: 21.3

56. Indiana Pacers (from Cleveland)

Kobe Brown | Missouri | PF/C | Age: 23.1

57. Washington Wizards (from Boston)

Julian Strawther | Gonzaga | SF | Age: 20.7

58. Milwaukee Bucks

Kevin McCullar Jr. | Kansas | SF | Age: 21.8

Note: The Chicago Bulls and Philadelphia 76ers each forfeited a 2023 second-round draft pick.




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Re: Re: 2023 Draft Prospect discussion Part II 

Post#984 » by Lord_Zedd » Thu Mar 9, 2023 8:17 pm

Havent been paying attention to the draft as much anymore, but that Rayan Rupert guy fits that Raptor profile to a T.

Maybe Trever Gleeson might have an extra insight or ten that he's willing to share to our FO.
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Re: Re: 2023 Draft Prospect discussion Part II 

Post#985 » by REJECTEDBYCLARK » Thu Mar 9, 2023 8:44 pm

Hendricks trying to carry his crap team back into the game, 4-8 6 reb 1 stl 2 mins left in the half. 2-3 from downtown.

His guards are shooting 3-17 from the field. He has more made field goals in less than half the attempts.
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Re: Re: 2023 Draft Prospect discussion Part II 

Post#986 » by Yallbecrazy » Thu Mar 9, 2023 8:47 pm

REJECTEDBYCLARK wrote:Sasser's WS/40 is even more impressive than his BPM. Regardless if you look at his BPM, PER, WS/40 everything is exceptionally high. We have seen time and time again that overlooking senior players can be a huge mistake just like in baseball overlooking college players in favor of high school ones can be a mistake as well, many teams have passed on absolute MLB studs in favor of some toolsy raw tall left handed high school pitcher from texas with a 98 mph fastball.

Every time I see Sasser at the top of his game he looks like a guy who can consistently drop points in bunches, swing the momentum of games and achieve those scoring runs while also being a quality defender which is what will keep him on the floor as a starter in the NBA.

In terms of his outside game it looks highly comparable to many elite NBA guards in terms of ability to self-create and get open on the perimeter. If he were 3 inches taller and more ripped to finish through contact at the rim he'd already be a top 10 lock.

The Raptors could desperately use Sasser's ball handling ability and athleticism. He is a quick little bugger and this team lacks agility. Siakam ain't no spring chicken anymore and our center as good as he is isn't explosive, Scottie isn't explosive, FVV isn't explosive, team overall are slugs compared to the rest of the NBA where most teams have a few truly special athletes in their lineups. We don't. Sasser isn't a total freak but the dude is quick and slick as hell.


Player A:

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Player B:

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Who would you take? (question open to anyone) Player B transferred in his junior season to a slightly weaker conference and had a little easier schedule than player A. They has similar strength of schedules in years 1 and 2 vs 1-4 for player A.
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Re: Re: 2023 Draft Prospect discussion Part II 

Post#987 » by REJECTEDBYCLARK » Thu Mar 9, 2023 8:47 pm

Anyone mocking Jalen Wilson in the 1st round is out of their mind, dude is a major scrub getting attention by being an inconsistent and inefficient ball hog on a team that gets national recognition.
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Re: 2023 Draft Prospect discussion Part II 

Post#988 » by BoyzNTheHood » Thu Mar 9, 2023 8:49 pm

Jalen Wilson’s been trash since he was a freshman. He’s not fooling anyone
deeps6x wrote:I guarantee you that (Jaylen) Brown and (Kris) Dunn are drafted OUT of the top 5.
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Re: 2023 Draft Prospect discussion Part II 

Post#989 » by REJECTEDBYCLARK » Thu Mar 9, 2023 8:51 pm

BoyzNTheHood wrote:Jalen Wilson’s been trash since he was a freshman. He’s not fooling anyone


Actually he is, tons of people have him as a 1st round talent 20-30 overall
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Re: 2023 Draft Prospect discussion Part II 

Post#990 » by BoyzNTheHood » Thu Mar 9, 2023 8:52 pm

REJECTEDBYCLARK wrote:
BoyzNTheHood wrote:Jalen Wilson’s been trash since he was a freshman. He’s not fooling anyone


Actually he is, tons of people have him as a 1st round talent 20-30 overall

They’re lost
deeps6x wrote:I guarantee you that (Jaylen) Brown and (Kris) Dunn are drafted OUT of the top 5.
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Re: Re: 2023 Draft Prospect discussion Part II 

Post#991 » by Rapsfan07 » Thu Mar 9, 2023 8:58 pm

Yallbecrazy wrote:
REJECTEDBYCLARK wrote:Sasser's WS/40 is even more impressive than his BPM. Regardless if you look at his BPM, PER, WS/40 everything is exceptionally high. We have seen time and time again that overlooking senior players can be a huge mistake just like in baseball overlooking college players in favor of high school ones can be a mistake as well, many teams have passed on absolute MLB studs in favor of some toolsy raw tall left handed high school pitcher from texas with a 98 mph fastball.

Every time I see Sasser at the top of his game he looks like a guy who can consistently drop points in bunches, swing the momentum of games and achieve those scoring runs while also being a quality defender which is what will keep him on the floor as a starter in the NBA.

In terms of his outside game it looks highly comparable to many elite NBA guards in terms of ability to self-create and get open on the perimeter. If he were 3 inches taller and more ripped to finish through contact at the rim he'd already be a top 10 lock.

The Raptors could desperately use Sasser's ball handling ability and athleticism. He is a quick little bugger and this team lacks agility. Siakam ain't no spring chicken anymore and our center as good as he is isn't explosive, Scottie isn't explosive, FVV isn't explosive, team overall are slugs compared to the rest of the NBA where most teams have a few truly special athletes in their lineups. We don't. Sasser isn't a total freak but the dude is quick and slick as hell.


Player A:

Image

Player B:

Image

Who would you take? (question open to anyone) Player B transferred in his junior season to a slightly weaker conference and had a little easier schedule than player A. They has similar strength of schedules in years 1 and 2 vs 1-4 for player A.


Player B for me.
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Re: Re: 2023 Draft Prospect discussion Part II 

Post#992 » by Yallbecrazy » Thu Mar 9, 2023 9:01 pm

Rapsfan07 wrote:
Yallbecrazy wrote:
REJECTEDBYCLARK wrote:Sasser's WS/40 is even more impressive than his BPM. Regardless if you look at his BPM, PER, WS/40 everything is exceptionally high. We have seen time and time again that overlooking senior players can be a huge mistake just like in baseball overlooking college players in favor of high school ones can be a mistake as well, many teams have passed on absolute MLB studs in favor of some toolsy raw tall left handed high school pitcher from texas with a 98 mph fastball.

Every time I see Sasser at the top of his game he looks like a guy who can consistently drop points in bunches, swing the momentum of games and achieve those scoring runs while also being a quality defender which is what will keep him on the floor as a starter in the NBA.

In terms of his outside game it looks highly comparable to many elite NBA guards in terms of ability to self-create and get open on the perimeter. If he were 3 inches taller and more ripped to finish through contact at the rim he'd already be a top 10 lock.

The Raptors could desperately use Sasser's ball handling ability and athleticism. He is a quick little bugger and this team lacks agility. Siakam ain't no spring chicken anymore and our center as good as he is isn't explosive, Scottie isn't explosive, FVV isn't explosive, team overall are slugs compared to the rest of the NBA where most teams have a few truly special athletes in their lineups. We don't. Sasser isn't a total freak but the dude is quick and slick as hell.


Player A:

Image

Player B:

Image

Who would you take? (question open to anyone) Player B transferred in his junior season to a slightly weaker conference and had a little easier schedule than player A. They has similar strength of schedules in years 1 and 2 vs 1-4 for player A.


Player B for me.


Player A:
Spoiler:
Sasser


Player B:
Spoiler:
Malachi Flynn
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Re: Re: 2023 Draft Prospect discussion Part II 

Post#993 » by Rapsfan07 » Thu Mar 9, 2023 9:08 pm

Yallbecrazy wrote:
Rapsfan07 wrote:
Yallbecrazy wrote:
Player A:

Image

Player B:

Image

Who would you take? (question open to anyone) Player B transferred in his junior season to a slightly weaker conference and had a little easier schedule than player A. They has similar strength of schedules in years 1 and 2 vs 1-4 for player A.


Player B for me.


Player A:
Spoiler:
Sasser


Player B:
Spoiler:
Malachi Flynn


:lol: :lol: :lol:

That's amazing
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Post#994 » by REJECTEDBYCLARK » Thu Mar 9, 2023 9:15 pm

When I just looked at Malachi's 11.7 BPM season I looked at his competition in the MWC and there were some incredibly bad teams that year... Air Force, Wyoming and SJSU had a combined 10-44 conf record as the bottom dwellers.

The other starting guard on SDSU was Jordan Schakel who amounted to absolutely nothing as an NBA player and a year later after Malachi left had a 9.8 BPM shot 46% from downtown on 8.8 attempts a game and 91% from the stripe at 3.2 attempts and also had a ton of steals. You know something is not right if that guy was able to be that productive at that program and show little for it too. ***Using per 40 min stats as well
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Post#995 » by notagenius » Thu Mar 9, 2023 10:03 pm

Who's the worst offensive player in our draft range (12-16)?

Good chance Masai drafts him

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Post#996 » by REJECTEDBYCLARK » Thu Mar 9, 2023 10:16 pm

Gradey Dick is actually good at taking charges. Gotta love it.
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Post#997 » by WuTang_CMB » Thu Mar 9, 2023 10:20 pm

Sam Vecenie raving about Rupert and his work ethic. He's improved a lot since last year and the breakers are the best defensive team in the league
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Post#998 » by BoyzNTheHood » Thu Mar 9, 2023 10:40 pm

WuTang_OG wrote:Sam Vecenie raving about Rupert and his work ethic. He's improved a lot since last year and the breakers are the best defensive team in the league

I have to take a more in depth look at Rupert because I don’t see his appeal at all.
deeps6x wrote:I guarantee you that (Jaylen) Brown and (Kris) Dunn are drafted OUT of the top 5.
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Re: 2023 Draft Prospect discussion Part II 

Post#999 » by WuTang_CMB » Thu Mar 9, 2023 10:43 pm

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WuTang_OG wrote:Sam Vecenie raving about Rupert and his work ethic. He's improved a lot since last year and the breakers are the best defensive team in the league

I have to take a more in depth look at Rupert because I don’t see his appeal at all.


grew up as a guard, great defensively, shot needs improvement, he'll be in the mix with cason wallace id guess

i like him though
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Post#1000 » by Est 1991 » Thu Mar 9, 2023 10:46 pm

Cason Wallace is someone I think would be a good fit for the team. One of the best defensive guards in the draft and his shot is coming along very well (.356 3P% through 29 gms in 31.7 mins). Would be a welcome addition to the current guards we have coming off the bench.
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