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2022-2023 Regular Season Game 67: Utah Jazz (31-35) at Orlando Magic (27-39) - 7pm

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Re: 2022-2023 Regular Season Game 67: Utah Jazz (31-35) at Orlando Magic (27-39) - 7pm 

Post#281 » by flying_mollusk » Fri Mar 10, 2023 5:17 am

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neuraldarwinism wrote:paolo at the 5 is cool. harris closing in that lineup will be replaced with 1 of our 1st round picks.


Paolo at the 5 is 100% not tenable unless he gets a complete personality transplant over the summer.

He's way too soft to even play small stretches as a small ball 5 at this point.

Ok dj guevara… or whatever his username is. Haha

But yeah, paolo aint a 5


Seems like if you go small, you need guards who can hit open 3s. Suggs and Fultz missed some down the stretch. Definitely weird coaching from Mose.
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Re: 2022-2023 Regular Season Game 67: Utah Jazz (31-35) at Orlando Magic (27-39) - 7pm 

Post#282 » by neuraldarwinism » Fri Mar 10, 2023 5:22 am

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neuraldarwinism wrote:paolo at the 5 is cool. harris closing in that lineup will be replaced with 1 of our 1st round picks.


Paolo at the 5 is 100% not tenable unless he gets a complete personality transplant over the summer.

He's way too soft to even play small stretches as a small ball 5 at this point.

couldnt care less about at this point
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Re: 2022-2023 Regular Season Game 67: Utah Jazz (31-35) at Orlando Magic (27-39) - 7pm 

Post#283 » by neuraldarwinism » Fri Mar 10, 2023 5:27 am

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neuraldarwinism wrote:paolo at the 5 is cool. harris closing in that lineup will be replaced with 1 of our 1st round picks.

Paolo does not protect the rim, we need to scrap that.

no experimental lineup with young players should be scrapped this year
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Re: 2022-2023 Regular Season Game 67: Utah Jazz (31-35) at Orlando Magic (27-39) - 7pm 

Post#284 » by Rainwater » Fri Mar 10, 2023 5:52 am

The rebuild began a year and a half ago. The magic's best player is a rookie and their second best player is only in his second year. I wished people realized the magic truly have a bright future and this is a process. This not going to happen over night.
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Re: 2022-2023 Regular Season Game 67: Utah Jazz (31-35) at Orlando Magic (27-39) - 7pm 

Post#285 » by pepe1991 » Fri Mar 10, 2023 7:18 am

It's part of a season where nothing really matters , but Banchero has no business playing 5.
Franz at PF is even more painful to watch.
They just don't box out and don't rebound at high enough level to play those positions.

Magic seems to be cemented at 5th worst record.
Whole thing is interesting tho, this year 5th worst record will win around 31-32 games. Last year 5th worst record had 25-57 record.
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Re: 2022-2023 Regular Season Game 67: Utah Jazz (31-35) at Orlando Magic (27-39) - 7pm 

Post#286 » by drsd » Fri Mar 10, 2023 7:27 am

thelead wrote:Pacers win BTW. We have a nice buffer now between us and the 6th worst spot.


The Magic is now 3 games back of the 6th worst Pacers.

This loss with their win basically clinched the Magic to be number-5 in the league lottery.
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Post#287 » by I Rasharted » Fri Mar 10, 2023 10:40 am

Knightro wrote:Indiana just won. So they're now 3 full games clear of the Magic in the race for 5th worst.

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Re: 2022-2023 Regular Season Game 67: Utah Jazz (31-35) at Orlando Magic (27-39) - 7pm 

Post#288 » by drsd » Fri Mar 10, 2023 11:52 am

This was a bad loss. This is a game good teams win. Orlando defended the lob terribly. And interior defense must be more than (failing) to get charges. There must have been at least 4 failed charge attempts in this game.

How does the Magic grow from this so that this sort of game is won next year? The simple answer is defensive intensity in the 4th quarter. And coach will preach on defense anyhow. That's true. And yes a team cannot miss 11 FTs in a close game and expect to win.

Frankly I don't know the answer. The Magic shot the three, had a very low TO game and an excellent TO-differential game (+7). That off-set being out-rebounded (-6), and indeed the Magic had both more FG attempts and FT attempts. Orlando made more threes! The eFG% for Orlando was 55.32%. Also, the Magic forced fouls and did not foul (-10 on fouls).

All I am left with is "better in-the paint defense". What else am I missing here???
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Post#289 » by drsd » Fri Mar 10, 2023 11:52 am

The biggest glass-half full stat line of the game: the SGs combined for 29 points. YES!
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Post#290 » by yoyojw17 » Fri Mar 10, 2023 12:30 pm

drsd wrote:The biggest glass-half full stat line of the game: the SGs combined for 29 points. YES!


and fultz took 4 3's.... made 2! Double yes! lol
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Post#291 » by Skybox » Fri Mar 10, 2023 12:36 pm

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drsd wrote:The biggest glass-half full stat line of the game: the SGs combined for 29 points. YES!


and fultz took 4 3's.... made 2! Double yes! lol


Unless you actually saw his form...not encouraging - even on the ones he made. Just a completely different form. They dared him to shoot...4 is not a lot of attempts in that situation.

He looked awesome everywhere else.
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Post#292 » by yoyojw17 » Fri Mar 10, 2023 1:29 pm

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drsd wrote:The biggest glass-half full stat line of the game: the SGs combined for 29 points. YES!


and fultz took 4 3's.... made 2! Double yes! lol


Unless you actually saw his form...not encouraging - even on the ones he made. Just a completely different form. They dared him to shoot...4 is not a lot of attempts in that situation.

He looked awesome everywhere else.

I watched his form... and cringed when he show them.... didn't see the first 3... but at least he looked comfortable taking them and the 4th one was a near make at all. If his ugly form is repeatable and he start nailing them.... i would care less if it was a granny shot. haha... jk.

needless to say... he had a great game last night.
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Re: 2022-2023 Regular Season Game 67: Utah Jazz (31-35) at Orlando Magic (27-39) - 7pm 

Post#293 » by Knightro » Fri Mar 10, 2023 1:46 pm

drsd wrote:This was a bad loss. This is a game good teams win. Orlando defended the lob terribly. And interior defense must be more than (failing) to get charges. There must have been at least 4 failed charge attempts in this game.

How does the Magic grow from this so that this sort of game is won next year? The simple answer is defensive intensity in the 4th quarter. And coach will preach on defense anyhow. That's true. And yes a team cannot miss 11 FTs in a close game and expect to win.

Frankly I don't know the answer. The Magic shot the three, had a very low TO game and an excellent TO-differential game (+7). That off-set being out-rebounded (-6), and indeed the Magic had both more FG attempts and FT attempts. Orlando made more threes! The eFG% for Orlando was 55.32%. Also, the Magic forced fouls and did not foul (-10 on fouls).

All I am left with is "better in-the paint defense". What else am I missing here???


Carter was out. It's basically that simple. He's a massively underrated player on this board and not having him has meant a complete and utter meltdown defensively on the interior the last three games.
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Post#294 » by Bergmaniac » Fri Mar 10, 2023 2:47 pm

In the last 3 games we are back to being completely unable to defend without Wendell, just like back in November when he first got injured. Giving up 131 points to a team whose main ballhandlers are Talen Horton-Tucker and Chris Dunn and was missing two of its main scorers in Clarkson and Sexton and played the corpse of Rudy Gay and a random dude named Johnny Juzang for significant minutes is downright embarassing. Fultz was great offensively, the other starters did quite well too on that end too, Suggs also was solid offensively, but we were just destroyed on the other end so we lost a game that was there for the taking. Good news for the tank, at least.
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Re: 2022-2023 Regular Season Game 67: Utah Jazz (31-35) at Orlando Magic (27-39) - 7pm 

Post#295 » by TheChaser » Fri Mar 10, 2023 7:00 pm

Knightro wrote:
drsd wrote:This was a bad loss. This is a game good teams win. Orlando defended the lob terribly. And interior defense must be more than (failing) to get charges. There must have been at least 4 failed charge attempts in this game.

How does the Magic grow from this so that this sort of game is won next year? The simple answer is defensive intensity in the 4th quarter. And coach will preach on defense anyhow. That's true. And yes a team cannot miss 11 FTs in a close game and expect to win.

Frankly I don't know the answer. The Magic shot the three, had a very low TO game and an excellent TO-differential game (+7). That off-set being out-rebounded (-6), and indeed the Magic had both more FG attempts and FT attempts. Orlando made more threes! The eFG% for Orlando was 55.32%. Also, the Magic forced fouls and did not foul (-10 on fouls).

All I am left with is "better in-the paint defense". What else am I missing here???


Carter was out. It's basically that simple. He's a massively underrated player on this board and not having him has meant a complete and utter meltdown defensively on the interior the last three games.


I literally logged on just to post these exact same sentiments. Carter is a HUGE part of any success this team has.
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