KD to the Suns

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3 weeks officially for “re-evaluation”. If he’s out another week after they re-evaluate him then that basically takes it through the entire remaining regular season really.

[Hitachi77]

Is 2 weeks or 3 weeks official? Did they really first think 2 weeks, then decide that they should wait an extra week to even re eval?

[spanishninja]

Games until the three week mark is over:

67 Sat, Mar 11, 2023 10:00p Sacramento Kings
68 Mon, Mar 13, 2023 10:00p @ Golden State Warriors
69 Tue, Mar 14, 2023 10:00p Milwaukee Bucks
70 Thu, Mar 16, 2023 10:00p Orlando Magic
71 Sun, Mar 19, 2023 3:30p @ Oklahoma City Thunder
72 Wed, Mar 22, 2023 10:00p @ Los Angeles Lakers
73 Fri, Mar 24, 2023 10:00p @ Sacramento Kings
74 Sat, Mar 25, 2023 10:00p Philadelphia 76ers
75 Mon, Mar 27, 2023 9:00p @ Utah Jazz
76 Wed, Mar 29, 2023 10:00p Minnesota Timberwolves

I count Orlando, Utah, Thunder, and Timberwolves as games we have a good chance of winning (SGA will be back for that Thunder game but if we played like last night it should still be fine). So out of the other 6 games against good teams, how many can we win? Can we at least get 2 out of 6? Can we win at least one of the Sacramento games? I think we might as well throw the Bucks game and maybe the Philly one at this point since they are in back to back situations.

[Jdiddy701]

Games until the three week mark is over:

67 Sat, Mar 11, 2023 10:00p Sacramento Kings
68 Mon, Mar 13, 2023 10:00p @ Golden State Warriors
69 Tue, Mar 14, 2023 10:00p Milwaukee Bucks
70 Thu, Mar 16, 2023 10:00p Orlando Magic
71 Sun, Mar 19, 2023 3:30p @ Oklahoma City Thunder
72 Wed, Mar 22, 2023 10:00p @ Los Angeles Lakers
73 Fri, Mar 24, 2023 10:00p @ Sacramento Kings
74 Sat, Mar 25, 2023 10:00p Philadelphia 76ers
75 Mon, Mar 27, 2023 9:00p @ Utah Jazz
76 Wed, Mar 29, 2023 10:00p Minnesota Timberwolves

I count Orlando, Utah, Thunder, and Timberwolves as games we have a good chance of winning (SGA will be back for that Thunder game but if we played like last night it should still be fine). So out of the other 6 games against good teams, how many can we win? Can we at least get 2 out of 6? Can we win at least one of the Sacramento games? I think we might as well throw the Bucks game and maybe the Philly one at this point since they are in back to back situations.

If we go 5-5, I think we’d still be in the top 6 seeding. I don’t mind dropping to 6th, just don’t get in a play-in situation. 5-5 in the next 10 would be awesome imo.


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[Revived]

Is 2 weeks or 3 weeks official? Did they really first think 2 weeks, then decide that they should wait an extra week to even re eval?

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3 weeks is official. Mentioned this in the other thread as well but if he clears the re-evaluation by then, he will likely need another week or so to ramp up and start playing in games again.

So basically 4 weeks from now is likely best case scenario when we see KD play again. And that pretty is the remainder of the regular season. So Greg Moore wasn’t wrong all that much, if at all, with what he put out yesterday night.

[spanishninja]

Games until the three week mark is over:

67 Sat, Mar 11, 2023 10:00p Sacramento Kings
68 Mon, Mar 13, 2023 10:00p @ Golden State Warriors
69 Tue, Mar 14, 2023 10:00p Milwaukee Bucks
70 Thu, Mar 16, 2023 10:00p Orlando Magic
71 Sun, Mar 19, 2023 3:30p @ Oklahoma City Thunder
72 Wed, Mar 22, 2023 10:00p @ Los Angeles Lakers
73 Fri, Mar 24, 2023 10:00p @ Sacramento Kings
74 Sat, Mar 25, 2023 10:00p Philadelphia 76ers
75 Mon, Mar 27, 2023 9:00p @ Utah Jazz
76 Wed, Mar 29, 2023 10:00p Minnesota Timberwolves

I count Orlando, Utah, Thunder, and Timberwolves as games we have a good chance of winning (SGA will be back for that Thunder game but if we played like last night it should still be fine). So out of the other 6 games against good teams, how many can we win? Can we at least get 2 out of 6? Can we win at least one of the Sacramento games? I think we might as well throw the Bucks game and maybe the Philly one at this point since they are in back to back situations.

If we go 5-5, I think we’d still be in the top 6 seeding. I don’t mind dropping to 6th, just don’t get in a play-in situation. 5-5 in the next 10 would be awesome imo.


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we might even keep top 4 seed if we go 5-5. None of the teams below us are likely to go 9-1 or 8-2, and we have a 3 game lead atm for the 4th seed. 3 seed or higher is looking unlikely now though. If we happen to drop to 6, might even be better as we would play the Kings or Grizz.

[sashaturiaf]

Horrible news. Best we can hope for is KD comes back 100% for the playoffs, but it's going to be extremely tough building up chemistry in the middle of a do or die playoff series.

KD is as plug and play as any player in the league, but Suns will be up and against it trying to win 4 playoff series like this.

[Qwigglez]

Honestly the best thing from this is other teams can’t gameplan around KD and Booker. They only have a small three game sample size to see what they can dissect and pick apart.
The transition KD made to the team seems so effortless that I don’t think Suns will miss a beat offensively. Teams will have plenty to worry about once Kd comes back.

[Bogyo]

Prepare for our next 2-3 years like this, as one of KD, CP or Book will always be injured. Well, at least 60 games for a season we will be without at least one of them. If we don't rest CP, place some bets that he will be injured in the playoffs this year, at least you can make some money on that pain.
You can bookmark this.

[Saberestar]

Horrible news. Best we can hope for is KD comes back 100% for the playoffs, but it's going to be extremely tough building up chemistry in the middle of a do or die playoff series.

KD is as plug and play as any player in the league, but Suns will be up and against it trying to win 4 playoff series like this.

Not at all, it could be much worse than that.

Look at the tweets from Shams. You can see that it is an small sprain and he would be available in a couple weeks... BUT it's just the end of the RS so it will be better to skip some games and be at full strength for the start of the playoffs. The medical staff presumably will give him another full week out, but not out of necessity.

We are playing the long game here. KD just needs to play the last couple of games of the RS to build again some chemistry, but like you saw on his three games with the Suns that will be really easy.

[Saberestar]

Cautious timeline, no reason to rush him back, fits with grade 1 maybe 2 but definitely NOT a major injury.

Also very positive reports of the swelling already decreasing.

Deep breath, Suns fans. It will be ok.

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[sunsbg]

I'm not hoping of catching the teams before us anymore though there is still minor chance. Fortunately dropping to last playoff spots is not that bad this season either. I don't fear Nuggets more than teams like Clippers, Warriors, Mavs. So most important is making the playoffs and somehow staying healthy.

[KdoubleDees23]

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[enigmatics]

Ah yes, because Mikal has such a long history of missing games to injury.

They weren't winning a title with Mikal.

You don't know that nor do you know if we will with KD. Either were possible. It might be more probable with KD, or less probable if he can't stay healthy. We were the favorite the last two years and although we failed, Mikal has been rapidly improving, and we likely would have had him for his career. I think he will become an all star though I know most consider him a role player or strictly 3&D. Obviously players like KD are rare but he's also missed more games than he's played the last 4 years.

Nobody knows for sure. Clearly it was my OPINION.

But I'm also wise enough to know watching him put up 30 on a depleted Nets squad isn't enough for me to sit there and say that had he stayed on the Suns the result would have been any different than the last two years. KD is an elite player - injuries or not. He's a difference maker when it comes to winning the first title in Suns history.

[ArksNetsSince99]

They weren't winning a title with Mikal.

You don't know that nor do you know if we will with KD. Either were possible. It might be more probable with KD, or less probable if he can't stay healthy. We were the favorite the last two years and although we failed, Mikal has been rapidly improving, and we likely would have had him for his career. I think he will become an all star though I know most consider him a role player or strictly 3&D. Obviously players like KD are rare but he's also missed more games than he's played the last 4 years.

Nobody knows for sure. Clearly it was my OPINION.

But I'm also wise enough to know watching him put up 30 on a depleted Nets squad isn't enough for me to sit there and say that had he stayed on the Suns the result would have been any different than the last two years. KD is an elite player - injuries or not. He's a difference maker when it comes to winning the first title in Suns history.

It’s depends which KD you getting , as a Nets fan I Saw two tails of KD during his time here , Bucks KD and Celtics KD

2 years ago vs Bucks , he was a toenail away from playing you guys in a finals on heavily injured Nets team (both Harden Kyrie down ) he was amazing , best player on the planet , if you get this KD title is yours

Last year vs Celtics , dominated KD , at some moments the worse player on the floor ( yes frickin Bruce Brown or Shadow of Dragic was better than him ) heavily doubled KD was a turnover machine , bad passer , he was that bad that ball in his hands meant one thing -turnover , you don’t want to see this version of him

[MrDollarBills]

You don't know that nor do you know if we will with KD. Either were possible. It might be more probable with KD, or less probable if he can't stay healthy. We were the favorite the last two years and although we failed, Mikal has been rapidly improving, and we likely would have had him for his career. I think he will become an all star though I know most consider him a role player or strictly 3&D. Obviously players like KD are rare but he's also missed more games than he's played the last 4 years.

Nobody knows for sure. Clearly it was my OPINION.

But I'm also wise enough to know watching him put up 30 on a depleted Nets squad isn't enough for me to sit there and say that had he stayed on the Suns the result would have been any different than the last two years. KD is an elite player - injuries or not. He's a difference maker when it comes to winning the first title in Suns history.

It’s depends which KD you getting , as a Nets fan I Saw two tails of KD during his time here , Bucks KD and Celtics KD

2 years ago vs Bucks , he was a toenail away from playing you guys in a finals on heavily injured Nets team (both Harden Kyrie down ) he was amazing , best player on the planet , if you get this KD title is yours

Last year vs Celtics , dominated KD , at some moments the worse player on the floor ( yes frickin Bruce Brown or Shadow of Dragic was better than him ) heavily doubled KD was a turnover machine , bad passer , he was that bad that ball in his hands meant one thing -turnover , you don’t want to see this version of him

I don't see that happening in Phoenix with CP3 as the primary ball handler and Monty coaching. Kyrie literally quit versus Boston and Nash got schooled by Udoka by employing simple high school level trapping schemes that rendered KD useless. There are adults in charge in Phoenix.

[ArksNetsSince99]

Nobody knows for sure. Clearly it was my OPINION.

But I'm also wise enough to know watching him put up 30 on a depleted Nets squad isn't enough for me to sit there and say that had he stayed on the Suns the result would have been any different than the last two years. KD is an elite player - injuries or not. He's a difference maker when it comes to winning the first title in Suns history.

It’s depends which KD you getting , as a Nets fan I Saw two tails of KD during his time here , Bucks KD and Celtics KD

2 years ago vs Bucks , he was a toenail away from playing you guys in a finals on heavily injured Nets team (both Harden Kyrie down ) he was amazing , best player on the planet , if you get this KD title is yours

Last year vs Celtics , dominated KD , at some moments the worse player on the floor ( yes frickin Bruce Brown or Shadow of Dragic was better than him ) heavily doubled KD was a turnover machine , bad passer , he was that bad that ball in his hands meant one thing -turnover , you don’t want to see this version of him

I don't see that happening in Phoenix with CP3 as the primary ball handler and Monty coaching. Kyrie literally quit versus Boston and Nash got schooled by Udoka by employing simple high school level trapping schemes that rendered KD useless. There are adults in charge in Phoenix.

Yes bro you’re right about PHX coaching staff is ways better , but anybody was /is better then Nets coaching, take any high school coach and he can run circles around Nash in coaching

But it was also KD stubbornness,inability to change his playing style ,not sure if you remember but after game 2 vs Boston KD was asked by a reporter about his turnovers , and instead of admitting that he was terrible he simply blew reporters off with saying something in a sense , that he is still the Alpha on this team and turnovers is part of the game , at that moment I knew we lost the series ,and we got swept

So saying this I can see both scenarios, I can see KD greatness, but I can also see if the smallest things doesn’t go right KD smashing his ego against a wall like he did in Celtics series

[bwgood77]

They weren't winning a title with Mikal.

You don't know that nor do you know if we will with KD. Either were possible. It might be more probable with KD, or less probable if he can't stay healthy. We were the favorite the last two years and although we failed, Mikal has been rapidly improving, and we likely would have had him for his career. I think he will become an all star though I know most consider him a role player or strictly 3&D. Obviously players like KD are rare but he's also missed more games than he's played the last 4 years.

Nobody knows for sure. Clearly it was my OPINION.

But I'm also wise enough to know watching him put up 30 on a depleted Nets squad isn't enough for me to sit there and say that had he stayed on the Suns the result would have been any different than the last two years. KD is an elite player - injuries or not. He's a difference maker when it comes to winning the first title in Suns history.

Possibly, if he stays healthy. Obviously if we kept Mikal we'd have to give him more opportunities to thrive than he typically got with Book, but CP3 was urging him to be aggressive. The impressive thing with Mikal on the Nets putting up what he has on avg so far is that overall it's been on elite efficiency, even being the #1 option attracting the best defender every night, so if he was doing it on the Suns, he would even have it easier.

He had JUST broken out...started being aggressive. CP3 talked about it and told him to continue it.

Anyway, you can say you don't think things would be any different but a young team in it's first two playoffs experiencing not winning it all is normal. Doesn't mean you should abandon their potential growth as a team that has faced adversity in the playoffs, and cash in a ton of chips for a 34 year old injury prone superstar in hopes he is able to stay healthy enough the next 3 seasons and you face good playoff fortune to win one.

But good for you that you are very happy with the decision and trade. Most of the fanbase seems very happy with it too which is ultimately a good thing. Hopefully we do win some championships and KD goes down as the best Sun ever.

[bwgood77]

You don't know that nor do you know if we will with KD. Either were possible. It might be more probable with KD, or less probable if he can't stay healthy. We were the favorite the last two years and although we failed, Mikal has been rapidly improving, and we likely would have had him for his career. I think he will become an all star though I know most consider him a role player or strictly 3&D. Obviously players like KD are rare but he's also missed more games than he's played the last 4 years.

Nobody knows for sure. Clearly it was my OPINION.

But I'm also wise enough to know watching him put up 30 on a depleted Nets squad isn't enough for me to sit there and say that had he stayed on the Suns the result would have been any different than the last two years. KD is an elite player - injuries or not. He's a difference maker when it comes to winning the first title in Suns history.

It’s depends which KD you getting , as a Nets fan I Saw two tails of KD during his time here , Bucks KD and Celtics KD

2 years ago vs Bucks , he was a toenail away from playing you guys in a finals on heavily injured Nets team (both Harden Kyrie down ) he was amazing , best player on the planet , if you get this KD title is yours

Last year vs Celtics , dominated KD , at some moments the worse player on the floor ( yes frickin Bruce Brown or Shadow of Dragic was better than him ) heavily doubled KD was a turnover machine , bad passer , he was that bad that ball in his hands meant one thing -turnover , you don’t want to see this version of him

But if Suns fans saw that and we were knocked out with him, especially swept or knocked out in 5, people would claim something has got to change, KD is getting too old, etc, and that we would never win with him. Now of course he has looked like a super stud again when he's been on the court again this year. We will see if he can play throughout the playoffs and continue at that level. He should be able to play at that level, given we also have Booker to take some heat off him, so it may just come down to health and how we match up with opponents.

[ArksNetsSince99]

Nobody knows for sure. Clearly it was my OPINION.

But I'm also wise enough to know watching him put up 30 on a depleted Nets squad isn't enough for me to sit there and say that had he stayed on the Suns the result would have been any different than the last two years. KD is an elite player - injuries or not. He's a difference maker when it comes to winning the first title in Suns history.

It’s depends which KD you getting , as a Nets fan I Saw two tails of KD during his time here , Bucks KD and Celtics KD

2 years ago vs Bucks , he was a toenail away from playing you guys in a finals on heavily injured Nets team (both Harden Kyrie down ) he was amazing , best player on the planet , if you get this KD title is yours

Last year vs Celtics , dominated KD , at some moments the worse player on the floor ( yes frickin Bruce Brown or Shadow of Dragic was better than him ) heavily doubled KD was a turnover machine , bad passer , he was that bad that ball in his hands meant one thing -turnover , you don’t want to see this version of him

But if Suns fans saw that and we were knocked out with him, especially swept or knocked out in 5, people would claim something has got to change, KD is getting too old, etc, and that we would never win with him. Now of course he has looked like a super stud again when he's been on the court again this year. We will see if he can play throughout the playoffs and continue at that level. He should be able to play at that level, given we also have Booker to take some heat off him, so it may just come down to health and how we match up with opponents.

I think 99% is health , not only KD but CP3 , Book , Ayton , you need all of them to stay healthy during playoffs