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2023 NBA Draft – Thurs, 8PM, June 22

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Re: 2023 NBA Draft 

Post#361 » by Hal14 » Thu Mar 9, 2023 6:23 pm

playa-hater wrote:1 game separating Detroit Houston and SA. Boston may desperately need that 33 pick.. only way to get a young Big perhaps.

Yeah. With Rob's continued injury struggles, wouldn't shock me if we pull the trigger on a big man with our first pick, in the 33-40 range.

The main bigs I like who could be available in that range: Adem Bona, Dereck Lively, James Nnaji, Trayce-Jackson-Davis and Noah Clowney (although he probably goes 1st round, but you never know, he could fall..)
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Post#362 » by Trilogy25 » Thu Mar 9, 2023 9:26 pm

Other sites have Boston as having one second round pick, most likely Portland's unless Houston wins a couple more games. At least the Portland pick could end up around #37
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Post#363 » by Kalela » Sat Mar 11, 2023 5:10 am

I don't know if anyone else already mentioned him but Olivier-Maxence Prosper is a player to keep an eye on. He looks like an elite wing defender with good size. The way he shut down Jordan Hawkins in tonight's game in the Big East tournament was impressive. Hawkins is a difficult player to guard because he never stops moving all game and he is a lights-out shooter.

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Post#364 » by Hal14 » Sat Mar 11, 2023 1:03 pm

Kalela wrote:I don't know if anyone else already mentioned him but Olivier-Maxence Prosper is a player to keep an eye on. He looks like an elite wing defender with good size. The way he shut down Jordan Hawkins in tonight's game in the Big East tournament was impressive. Hawkins is a difficult player to guard because he never stops moving all game and he is a lights-out shooter.


Yes, Prosper is good. One of those long, athletic combo-forwards, at 6'8". Plays hard. Good defender. He's a little raw, but he's also still pretty young - still just 20 yrs old.

Certainly someone to keep an eye on as a 2nd rounder or UDFA.

You can't go wrong picking a guy off that Marquette team - very well coached team, they play hard, they play the right way, hard nosed, team basketball.
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Post#365 » by Hal14 » Mon Mar 13, 2023 2:41 am

I'm very high on Noah Clowney. #16 player on my big board. I like the versatility - he can play the 4 or the 5. Can play alongside pretty much any big, or put him at the 5 alongside a smaller 4 like Tatum. Whatever.

This mock has him going 31st. If we get that 33rd pick (via houston) and he's still there, you absolutely take Clowney.

https://www.nba.com/news/bleacher-report-mock-draft-march-2023

Last year's draft, we took a freshman from the university of alabama, so Brad can stay consistent here.

Only shooting 28% from 3 on the season. But he's a better shooter than that % suggests. Got off to a rough start early in the season (adjusting to the college game, the deeper 3 pt line, etc.) but over his past 13 games he's shooting 34% from 3 on good volume (15/44).

I know that might not seem great but for a 6'10" big man who's only a freshman (one of the youngest players in this draft class too, doesn't turn 19 till july) and played a gauntlet of a schedule in the SEC and tough non-conference games, 34% from 3 is actually very good.

Overall, he's just a really tough player. Can play physical, can rebound, block shots, plays hard. And is 1 of the 3 best players on Bama - the #1 ranked team in the country.

I might even try to trade up to get him. Saw some rumors that we may be able to flip Pritchard to a team who is likely to have a late 1st round pick..
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Post#366 » by Hal14 » Mon Mar 13, 2023 10:18 pm

Intriguing sleeper. Potential draft and stash big man.

Offensively, he's raw but does show good flashes of shooting, making moves off the dribble and passing. Defensively, he could end up being the best front court defender in this draft, outside of Wembanyama. He's a really good defender - and will only get better, since he's still so young - doesn't turn 19 till June.

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Post#367 » by 165bows » Mon Mar 13, 2023 10:47 pm

Hal14 wrote:Intriguing sleeper. Potential draft and stash big man.

Offensively, he's raw but does show good flashes of shooting, making moves off the dribble and passing. Defensively, he could end up being the best front court defender in this draft, outside of Wembanyama. He's a really good defender - and will only get better, since he's still so young - doesn't turn 19 till June.

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This guy seems like he has some passing/shooting chops that this team likes. Kind of a Muscala vibe, plus they might not need to stick him on the roster.
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Post#369 » by canman1971 » Wed Mar 15, 2023 1:27 pm

Trilogy25 wrote:Other sites have Boston as having one second round pick, most likely Portland's unless Houston wins a couple more games. At least the Portland pick could end up around #37
Portland’s pick, currently 38th.
Houston’s pick, protected 31-32. Houston sits at 32 before the lottery and the pick would not convey.
If Houston’s pick does not convey, then the less favorable of Miami or Dallas’ pick. Dallas is at 35, so Miami’s 40th pick would convey.


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Post#370 » by 165bows » Wed Mar 15, 2023 2:14 pm

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Trilogy25 wrote:Other sites have Boston as having one second round pick, most likely Portland's unless Houston wins a couple more games. At least the Portland pick could end up around #37
Portland’s pick, currently 38th.
Houston’s pick, protected 31-32. Houston sits at 32 before the lottery and the pick would not convey.
If Houston’s pick does not convey, then the less favorable of Miami or Dallas’ pick. Dallas is at 35, so Miami’s 40th pick would convey.


https://theathletic.com/4310719/2023/03/15/celtics-march-madness-ncaa-tournament/

Not sure this makes sense. Is this supposed to be Dallas at 45 and Miami at 50?

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Post#371 » by Hal14 » Wed Mar 15, 2023 2:20 pm

A guy to keep on the radar in the 2nd round, if he declares.

Bobi Klintman.

He's an upside swing. Wouldn't contribute anything in year 1 . He's be in the g league (or possibly stashed overseas since he is from Sweden) for a year - or even 2 yrs.

But the upside is there. Guys who are 6'10" and can move like he moves, can handle the ball, shoot, attack a little bit off the dribble and block shots - as a freshman in the ACC don't exactly grow on trees.

Projects as a 4...who can play some as a small ball 5...and maybe even a little bit at the 3. Good versatility - upside is there to potentially defend inside as well as outside.

He showed tremendous improvement as a 3 pt shooter over the course of his freshman season:
First 16 games = 6/26 (23%)
Last 17 games = 22/50 (44%)

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Post#372 » by canman1971 » Wed Mar 15, 2023 4:18 pm

165bows wrote:
canman1971 wrote:
Trilogy25 wrote:Other sites have Boston as having one second round pick, most likely Portland's unless Houston wins a couple more games. At least the Portland pick could end up around #37
Portland’s pick, currently 38th.
Houston’s pick, protected 31-32. Houston sits at 32 before the lottery and the pick would not convey.
If Houston’s pick does not convey, then the less favorable of Miami or Dallas’ pick. Dallas is at 35, so Miami’s 40th pick would convey.


https://theathletic.com/4310719/2023/03/15/celtics-march-madness-ncaa-tournament/

Not sure this makes sense. Is this supposed to be Dallas at 45 and Miami at 50?

https://www.tankathon.com/celtics

It could be a misprint. I just copied and pasted it from the article.
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Post#373 » by 165bows » Wed Mar 15, 2023 4:51 pm

canman1971 wrote:
165bows wrote:
canman1971 wrote:Portland’s pick, currently 38th.
Houston’s pick, protected 31-32. Houston sits at 32 before the lottery and the pick would not convey.
If Houston’s pick does not convey, then the less favorable of Miami or Dallas’ pick. Dallas is at 35, so Miami’s 40th pick would convey.


https://theathletic.com/4310719/2023/03/15/celtics-march-madness-ncaa-tournament/

Not sure this makes sense. Is this supposed to be Dallas at 45 and Miami at 50?

https://www.tankathon.com/celtics

It could be a misprint. I just copied and pasted it from the article.

Right, I saw that’s what they said in there. Just not sure how it’s accurate - at least that’s not where those teams are picking. Not really sure who has the accurate info on their picks at this point.
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Post#374 » by djFan71 » Wed Mar 15, 2023 4:58 pm

165bows wrote:
canman1971 wrote:
165bows wrote:Not sure this makes sense. Is this supposed to be Dallas at 45 and Miami at 50?

https://www.tankathon.com/celtics

It could be a misprint. I just copied and pasted it from the article.

Right, I saw that’s what they said in there. Just not sure how it’s accurate - at least that’s not where those teams are picking. Not really sure who has the accurate info on their picks at this point.

We get POR and....


2023 second round draft pick from Houston, Dallas or Miami
Oklahoma City will receive the more favorable of Dallas' 2023 2nd round pick and Miami's 2023 2nd round pick; Boston will receive the more favorable of (i) Houston's 2023 2nd round pick protected for selections 31-32 and (ii) the less favorable of the Dallas pick and the Miami pick and Indiana will receive the least favorable of the three; if the Houston pick falls within its protected range, then Houston's obligation to Boston will be extinguished and Boston will instead receive the less favorable of the Dallas pick and the Miami pick and Indiana will instead receive the Houston pick; Oklahoma City may convey the pick it receives to Denver or Charlotte (see Oklahoma City Outgoing) and Boston may convey the pick it receives to Indiana (see Boston Outgoing) (via Miami to Dallas; via Memphis' right to swap Dallas or Miami for Houston) [Dallas-Miami, 7/7/2017; Dallas-Memphis, 7/8/2019; Houston-Memphis, 2/6/2020; Boston-Memphis-Portland, 11/20/2020; Dallas-Detroit-Oklahoma City, 11/27/2020; Brooklyn-Cleveland-Houston-Indiana, 1/16/2021]


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Post#375 » by djFan71 » Wed Mar 15, 2023 5:01 pm

So, I think right now 37 & 50. Gotta say, I like 33 & 37 better.
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Post#376 » by 165bows » Wed Mar 15, 2023 5:05 pm

djFan71 wrote:
165bows wrote:
canman1971 wrote:It could be a misprint. I just copied and pasted it from the article.

Right, I saw that’s what they said in there. Just not sure how it’s accurate - at least that’s not where those teams are picking. Not really sure who has the accurate info on their picks at this point.

We get POR and....


2023 second round draft pick from Houston, Dallas or Miami
Oklahoma City will receive the more favorable of Dallas' 2023 2nd round pick and Miami's 2023 2nd round pick; Boston will receive the more favorable of (i) Houston's 2023 2nd round pick protected for selections 31-32 and (ii) the less favorable of the Dallas pick and the Miami pick and Indiana will receive the least favorable of the three; if the Houston pick falls within its protected range, then Houston's obligation to Boston will be extinguished and Boston will instead receive the less favorable of the Dallas pick and the Miami pick and Indiana will instead receive the Houston pick; Oklahoma City may convey the pick it receives to Denver or Charlotte (see Oklahoma City Outgoing) and Boston may convey the pick it receives to Indiana (see Boston Outgoing) (via Miami to Dallas; via Memphis' right to swap Dallas or Miami for Houston) [Dallas-Miami, 7/7/2017; Dallas-Memphis, 7/8/2019; Houston-Memphis, 2/6/2020; Boston-Memphis-Portland, 11/20/2020; Dallas-Detroit-Oklahoma City, 11/27/2020; Brooklyn-Cleveland-Houston-Indiana, 1/16/2021]


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Haha yeah it’s crazy. My impression was they then traded whatever ends up being the worst of the Portland pick and that above mess to OKC for Muscala. Tankathon also shows them shipping out there own (mainly worthless) second to Washington, not really sure when that happened.

(Shrugs).
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Post#377 » by djFan71 » Wed Mar 15, 2023 5:20 pm

165bows wrote:Haha yeah it’s crazy. My impression was they then traded whatever ends up being the worst of the Portland pick and that above mess to OKC for Muscala. Tankathon also shows them shipping out there own (mainly worthless) second to Washington, not really sure when that happened.
(Shrugs).

Ha, yeah, I wasn't sure if Tankathon was more up to date than RGM or less.
I'm just hoping for POR losses and HOU wins.
Somebody will get paid to sort it out and tell us what happens if HOU doesn't fall to 33.
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Post#378 » by Trilogy25 » Wed Mar 15, 2023 8:52 pm

canman1971 wrote:
Trilogy25 wrote:Other sites have Boston as having one second round pick, most likely Portland's unless Houston wins a couple more games. At least the Portland pick could end up around #37
Portland’s pick, currently 38th.
Houston’s pick, protected 31-32. Houston sits at 32 before the lottery and the pick would not convey.
If Houston’s pick does not convey, then the less favorable of Miami or Dallas’ pick. Dallas is at 35, so Miami’s 40th pick would convey.


https://theathletic.com/4310719/2023/03/15/celtics-march-madness-ncaa-tournament/


The worst pick of those (most likely to be Dallas or Miami) goes to OKC in the Muscala trade?

Edit: That site didn't update to include the Muscala trade. Rooting for Portland to lose the rest of the way.
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Post#379 » by Larry_Russell » Fri Mar 17, 2023 10:19 am

Should be in the neighborhood of Kel'el Ware. A potential Rob Williams replacement whonis healthy and is willing to shoot a jumper
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Post#380 » by djFan71 » Fri Mar 17, 2023 3:16 pm

CHI beat MIN and Cs take care of business against POR would be a beautiful night for the 2nd rounder.

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