RS 22/23 - Mavs @ Grizzlies (Sat, 8PM EST)

[ejs78]

Bob we all know your a Luka fanboy and that's ok. I'm a fan of the team and there are no scared cows.

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Again. I don't even understand what fanboy is, that doesn't exists in Europe. We want the team to win. Winning is the only thing that matters. If the team is not winning, nobody cares about individual performances. Just to explain to you, in Europe Kidd would have been long gone and public opinion would have been totally against Mavs management and Cuban. About Luka. He wouldn't even be a starter with that kind of lazy D. Coaches would have been on his back every game and if he was of, he wouldn't finished the game.

Come on Bob8, dont pretend you are not a fanboy haha You only watch the Mavs because of Luka. When he leaves you will go be a fan of his next team. And thats ok.

Exactly.

Its 100% ok to be a fanboy, but realize alot of us aren't.

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[Absinthe]

This is an absolutely brutal stretch for this team. If they would have won even half of the close games they’ve lost in the past ten games they’d be a top four seed and because they’ve lost every single one they’re looking at maybe being a play in team. I think they’ve lost a combined six games by less than 20 points over the last ten games.

[Bob8]

You're a smart guy. You'll figure it out.

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I'm not the problem. It's cultural difference. In Europe teams have to win or they're destroyed by fans and media. In USA everything is much more easy, nobody is accountable. Knicks, who didn't do anything in last 20 years are the most valuable franchise.

Bob,

I'm not saying you're a problem at all. And I wish the NBA was better in all the things you've discussed. My criticism is just with Luka and his attitude, lack of D, and fitness.

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And we agree at this. But it's not only Luka's problem. Just look at all load management and lack of coaching power. Nba is star driven league, which is becoming absurd lately, especially in RS.

[Bob8]

Again. I don't even understand what fanboy is, that doesn't exists in Europe. We want the team to win. Winning is the only thing that matters. If the team is not winning, nobody cares about individual performances. Just to explain to you, in Europe Kidd would have been long gone and public opinion would have been totally against Mavs management and Cuban. About Luka. He wouldn't even be a starter with that kind of lazy D. Coaches would have been on his back every game and if he was of, he wouldn't finished the game.

Come on Bob8, dont pretend you are not a fanboy haha You only watch the Mavs because of Luka. When he leaves you will go be a fan of his next team. And thats ok.

Exactly.

Its 100% ok to be a fanboy, but realize alot of us aren't.

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Fanboy whose only goal is Mavs winning is still a fanboy? I have a feeling that winning is much more important to me that to vast majority of Americans, who are having more long term approach.

[ejs78]

I'm not the problem. It's cultural difference. In Europe teams have to win or they're destroyed by fans and media. In USA everything is much more easy, nobody is accountable. Knicks, who didn't do anything in last 20 years are the most valuable franchise.

Bob,

I'm not saying you're a problem at all. And I wish the NBA was better in all the things you've discussed. My criticism is just with Luka and his attitude, lack of D, and fitness.

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And we agree at this. But it's not only Luka's problem. Just look at all load management and lack of coaching power. Nba is star driven league, which is becoming absurd lately, especially in RS.

100% agree

I hate load management, I hate spamming 3s and I hate no D.

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[ejs78]

Come on Bob8, dont pretend you are not a fanboy haha You only watch the Mavs because of Luka. When he leaves you will go be a fan of his next team. And thats ok.

Exactly.

Its 100% ok to be a fanboy, but realize alot of us aren't.

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Fanboy whose only goal is Mavs winning is still a fanboy? I have a feeling that winning is much more important to me that vast majority of Americans, who are having more long term approach.

You defend Luka like he's your son

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[Bob8]

Bob,

I'm not saying you're a problem at all. And I wish the NBA was better in all the things you've discussed. My criticism is just with Luka and his attitude, lack of D, and fitness.

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And we agree at this. But it's not only Luka's problem. Just look at all load management and lack of coaching power. Nba is star driven league, which is becoming absurd lately, especially in RS.

100% agree

I hate load management, I hate spamming 3s and I hate no D.

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Then you should understand that Luka has got those bad habits in Nba, all Nba product is highly suspectfull.

[ejs78]

And we agree at this. But it's not only Luka's problem. Just look at all load management and lack of coaching power. Nba is star driven league, which is becoming absurd lately, especially in RS.

100% agree

I hate load management, I hate spamming 3s and I hate no D.

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Then you should understand that Luka has got those bad habits in Nba, all Nba product is highly suspectfull.

Him not being able STFU isn't created by those issues. The other issues could be created by the NBA but it doesn't mean he has to fall into the trap of doing it.

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[Bob8]

Exactly.

Its 100% ok to be a fanboy, but realize alot of us aren't.

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Fanboy whose only goal is Mavs winning is still a fanboy? I have a feeling that winning is much more important to me that vast majority of Americans, who are having more long term approach.

You defend Luka like he's your son

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Maybe you should read better. I said,

- He was bad in last weeks.
- He doesn't play D.
- He should do more for team to win.
- Kyrie was better player.

On the other hand I find laughable that because Kyrie was better in last 10 games, we should forget what Luka has done in first half of this season or in previous seasons.

I find funny that Kyrie is seen like saviour although we don't even know if he wants to be here next season.

[Bob8]

100% agree

I hate load management, I hate spamming 3s and I hate no D.

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Then you should understand that Luka has got those bad habits in Nba, all Nba product is highly suspectfull.

Him not being able STFU isn't created by those issues.

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Sure it is. Just watch his attitude in Real, before he came in Nba.

[ejs78]

Then you should understand that Luka has got those bad habits in Nba, all Nba product is highly suspectfull.

Him not being able STFU isn't created by those issues.

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Sure it is. Just watch his attitude in Real, before he came in Nba.

Bob I don't care about Euroleague. He has problems to fix regardless of where they come from. STFU is the easiest one to fix.

That's it.


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[ejs78]

Fanboy whose only goal is Mavs winning is still a fanboy? I have a feeling that winning is much more important to me that vast majority of Americans, who are having more long term approach.

You defend Luka like he's your son

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Maybe you should read better. I said,

- He was bad in last weeks.
- He doesn't play D.
- He should do more for team to win.
- Kyrie was better player.

On the other hand I find laughable that because Kyrie was better in last 10 games, we should forget what Luka has done in first half of this season or in previous seasons.

I find funny that Kyrie is seen like saviour although we don't even know if he want to be here next season.

Never said Kyrie was the savior as I've stated there are no sacred cows... but for you there seems to be one.



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[Bob8]

Him not being able STFU isn't created by those issues.

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Sure it is. Just watch his attitude in Real, before he came in Nba.

Bob I don't care about Euroleague. He has problems to fix regardless of where they come from. STFU is the easiest one to fix.

That's it.


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You don't need to care about Euroleague, but it's the fact that attitude by the players is totally different there. Players are still stars, but accountable for their actions. Coach is the boss there. Everyone has to play D. Not load management whatsoever. Only winning matters. No tanking. No useless games.

[Bob8]

You defend Luka like he's your son

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Maybe you should read better. I said,

- He was bad in last weeks.
- He doesn't play D.
- He should do more for team to win.
- Kyrie was better player.

On the other hand I find laughable that because Kyrie was better in last 10 games, we should forget what Luka has done in first half of this season or in previous seasons.

I find funny that Kyrie is seen like saviour although we don't even know if he want to be here next season.

Never said Kyrie was the savior as I've stated there are no sacred cows... but for you there seems to be one.



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Again, if Cuban and the management believe that they can get good return for Luka, they should trade him. In Europe players are changing clubs all the time. I don't understand why Luka had to be in Mavs 10 years, if things are not working.

[ejs78]

Sure it is. Just watch his attitude in Real, before he came in Nba.

Bob I don't care about Euroleague. He has problems to fix regardless of where they come from. STFU is the easiest one to fix.

That's it.


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You don't need to care about Euroleague, but it's the fact that attitude by the players is totally different there. Players are still stars, but accountable for their actions. Coach is the boss there. Everyone has to play D. Not load management whatsoever. Only winning matters. No tanking. No useless games.

Bob,

Again I rather see that here but don't care cuz its not. I care what I see on the Mavs and addressing concerns with the team. Some of them involve Luka and that's ok.

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[ejs78]

Maybe you should read better. I said,

- He was bad in last weeks.
- He doesn't play D.
- He should do more for team to win.
- Kyrie was better player.

On the other hand I find laughable that because Kyrie was better in last 10 games, we should forget what Luka has done in first half of this season or in previous seasons.

I find funny that Kyrie is seen like saviour although we don't even know if he want to be here next season.

Never said Kyrie was the savior as I've stated there are no sacred cows... but for you there seems to be one.



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Again, if Cuban and the management believe that they can get good return for Luka, they should trade him. In Europe players are changing clubs all the time. I don't understand why Luka had to be in Mavs 10 years, if things are not working.

Didn't mention trading Luka 1x and said not to trade him earlier.

Luka criticism seems to be doing something to you.

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[arkuo]

Sure it is. Just watch his attitude in Real, before he came in Nba.

Bob I don't care about Euroleague. He has problems to fix regardless of where they come from. STFU is the easiest one to fix.

That's it.


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You don't need to care about Euroleague, but it's the fact that attitude by the players is totally different there. Players are still stars, but accountable for their actions. Coach is the boss there. Everyone has to play D. Not load management whatsoever. Only winning matters. No tanking. No useless games.

Luka got handed the keys to the team too early. Got superstar treatment too early, had his starting unit traded to accomodate him, Carlisle Donnie and that poker guy got into a fit by building a team with analytics for him, now supposedly he has a player's coach who is buddies' with him but that doesnt work too. So which one is it? If the supposed basketball savant who can read defenses as people would put it, cant set screens to help the team because him shooting step back jumpers at 35 feet is the most efficient, is it still on the coach or the supposed basketball savant who cant adjust his play style? You have to pick a side there. Because all this time people were claiming Luka to have high IQ this and that.

[Bob8]

Bob I don't care about Euroleague. He has problems to fix regardless of where they come from. STFU is the easiest one to fix.

That's it.


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You don't need to care about Euroleague, but it's the fact that attitude by the players is totally different there. Players are still stars, but accountable for their actions. Coach is the boss there. Everyone has to play D. Not load management whatsoever. Only winning matters. No tanking. No useless games.

Bob,

Again I rather see that here but don't care cuz its not. I care what I see on the Mavs and addressing concerns with the team. Some of them involve Luka and that's ok.

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Problem is that like Nba works, nobody is addressing problems with stars. They work or not. There's 0% chances that Kidd can change Luka's attitude or D or anything else, only Luka can and it might be too late for that too.

[arkuo]

Never said Kyrie was the savior as I've stated there are no sacred cows... but for you there seems to be one.



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Again, if Cuban and the management believe that they can get good return for Luka, they should trade him. In Europe players are changing clubs all the time. I don't understand why Luka had to be in Mavs 10 years, if things are not working.

Didn't mention trading Luka 1x and said not to trade him earlier.

Luka criticism seems to be doing something to you.

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Its the poor side of Europe sticking up for each other. We didnt get the same reaction from the classy side of Europe when people criticized Dirk for his D back then. Now you criticize one guy from the poor side of Europe and they all get their panties in a ball.

[Bob8]

Never said Kyrie was the savior as I've stated there are no sacred cows... but for you there seems to be one.



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Again, if Cuban and the management believe that they can get good return for Luka, they should trade him. In Europe players are changing clubs all the time. I don't understand why Luka had to be in Mavs 10 years, if things are not working.

Didn't mention trading Luka 1x and said not to trade him earlier.

Luka criticism seems to be doing something to you.

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I explained to you. You can't change stars. You can build a team around them or you can trade them. Nothing else. We can be critical, but Luka won't play different because of that.