HEAT vs MAGIC // 3.11.2023 /// 7p

[Beenie]

Jimmy is the only reason we have had some success with this disgrace of a team. The only one in this team who you can put some kind of trust he will get it done when it matters, nobody and i mean nobody else in this team you can count on as you can with Jimmy. However we will not be successful as a team without roster and staff changes.

TBC, this is the point of my comment.

The people who have been critical of Jimmy for not going into "playoff jimmy" mode and sustaining that level of play throughout the regular season are simple-minded.

He turns it on when necessary which is how it should be at this stage of his career.

It's as if the fans expect him to average close to 40 minutes a night, play all 82 games and score 30 or hes somehow not living up to his contract.

No one can say he's been allstar or all nba level player for the regular season. No one. When you get paid max thats the minimum required expectation. If he can't do that, he should have taken a discount.
Cuz reality will start to hit next season. His contracts makes a huge jump and then Herro max starts to kick in. We will be paying a 100 mill to 3 players. Its going to be hard to have depth with so much money on 3 guys. So you need the 3 to play up to their contracts.
It makes no sense to me, we expect Bam to play like an allstar. We expect Herro to play like one too. But Butler gets a pass.
You get money, there are expectations. There have been games where a lot of games early in the season when he's been a non factor. When the team is struggling, that's just not good enough.
Butler can coast when everyone else is stepping up. But when the team is struggling he needs to step up and play like an allstar. He didn't for half of the season, Bam did. He can't get a pass. He's at fault for a poor season as is FO, Spo and the players.

Jimmy got that contract because he’s proven to be a reliable alpha option in the playoffs who can match the likes of Tatem and even Giannis to some degree.

At this stage of his career, that’s the only thing that matters.

He turns it on when its necessary to preserve him for the playoffs.

To hold him to the standard of a 25 years old is to basically suggest that you are okay with him getting hurt and potentially jeopardizing his post season availability.

[MHeat0279]

It really is just a damn shame some of you can’t appreciate the elite young talent Bam is and only post when he has a bad game, which is rarely why we see some of you post

He IS the future of this franchise. He IS the next Heat great. He IS the guy who is going to attract elite talent to this team in the future.

Not that we do not appreciate it, we just dont see it. We dont see him as ever being an elite player much less a franchise's cornerstone. He is who he is, a good defensive player with limited scoring ability, spare the misleading stats, it gets boring and as said before doesnt show the whole picture. He has improved but nowhere near being elite. Is Jimmy overpaid? Maybe. But you can bank on Jimmy being the best player by far in the playoffs than any other player on this team, he is the sole reason the Miami Hear are not completely unwatchable.

[3ammy3uck3ts]

It really is just a damn shame some of you can’t appreciate the elite young talent Bam is and only post when he has a bad game, which is rarely why we see some of you post

He IS the future of this franchise. He IS the next Heat great. He IS the guy who is going to attract elite talent to this team in the future.

Not that we do not appreciate it, we just dont see it. We dont see him as ever being an elite player much less a franchise's cornerstone. He is who he is, a good defensive player with limited scoring ability, spare the misleading stats, it gets boring and as said before doesnt show the whole picture. He has improved but nowhere near being elite. Is Jimmy overpaid? Maybe. But you can bank on Jimmy being the best player by far in the playoffs than any other player on this team, he is the sole reason the Miami Hear are not completely unwatchable.

And that is just flat out wrong and a damn shame that’s how some of you view him tbh. At least the Heat know how good he is.

Good defender? No, he’s an elite top of the world level defender. Limited scoring ability? He’s grown here every year and is averaging 21 on high efficiency. He leads the entire nba in points in the paint as he’s added to his game. Not just the Heat, the ENTIRE league. Has the most 30 point games in this team and his big games actually lead to wins. He’s top 10 in the league in 4th quarter points where he is also doing it on the highest efficiency. Is who he is? No, how can you say that about a player who has literally improved every single season of his career? He’s a multiple time all star at the young age of 25 and STILL improving, would be 3 time at minimum if not for hand surgery last season that sidelined him for a big chunk of the season.



You’re letting a bad 2 week stretch negate everything he’s done this season and the growth he’s shown this season and that’s just ignorant. I’m glad your having your time to shine but it’s a shame you only stop by when he plays bad

[3ammy3uck3ts]

TBC, this is the point of my comment.

The people who have been critical of Jimmy for not going into "playoff jimmy" mode and sustaining that level of play throughout the regular season are simple-minded.

He turns it on when necessary which is how it should be at this stage of his career.

It's as if the fans expect him to average close to 40 minutes a night, play all 82 games and score 30 or hes somehow not living up to his contract.

No one can say he's been allstar or all nba level player for the regular season. No one. When you get paid max thats the minimum required expectation. If he can't do that, he should have taken a discount.
Cuz reality will start to hit next season. His contracts makes a huge jump and then Herro max starts to kick in. We will be paying a 100 mill to 3 players. Its going to be hard to have depth with so much money on 3 guys. So you need the 3 to play up to their contracts.
It makes no sense to me, we expect Bam to play like an allstar. We expect Herro to play like one too. But Butler gets a pass.
You get money, there are expectations. There have been games where a lot of games early in the season when he's been a non factor. When the team is struggling, that's just not good enough.
Butler can coast when everyone else is stepping up. But when the team is struggling he needs to step up and play like an allstar. He didn't for half of the season, Bam did. He can't get a pass. He's at fault for a poor season as is FO, Spo and the players.

Jimmy got that contract because he’s proven to be a reliable alpha option in the playoffs who can match the likes of Tatem and even Giannis to some degree.

At this stage of his career, that’s the only thing that matters.

He turns it on when its necessary to preserve him for the playoffs.

To hold him to the standard of a 25 years old is to basically suggest that you are okay with him getting hurt and potentially jeopardizing his post season availability.

You’re going to hate these facts but out of the 2 ECF matchups we’ve had against the Celtics Bam easily outplayed Jimmy in 1, Jimmy easily outplayed him in 1.

Of the 2 playoff matchups we’ve had against the Bucks, they basically played to a wash in 1, bam easily outplayed him in the other.

This is literally all there for you to see lol we’ve got to stop the false narratives. We’re all pointing the finger at the wrong guys if we’re being honest.

[Beenie]

No one can say he's been allstar or all nba level player for the regular season. No one. When you get paid max thats the minimum required expectation. If he can't do that, he should have taken a discount.
Cuz reality will start to hit next season. His contracts makes a huge jump and then Herro max starts to kick in. We will be paying a 100 mill to 3 players. Its going to be hard to have depth with so much money on 3 guys. So you need the 3 to play up to their contracts.
It makes no sense to me, we expect Bam to play like an allstar. We expect Herro to play like one too. But Butler gets a pass.
You get money, there are expectations. There have been games where a lot of games early in the season when he's been a non factor. When the team is struggling, that's just not good enough.
Butler can coast when everyone else is stepping up. But when the team is struggling he needs to step up and play like an allstar. He didn't for half of the season, Bam did. He can't get a pass. He's at fault for a poor season as is FO, Spo and the players.

Jimmy got that contract because he’s proven to be a reliable alpha option in the playoffs who can match the likes of Tatem and even Giannis to some degree.

At this stage of his career, that’s the only thing that matters.

He turns it on when its necessary to preserve him for the playoffs.

To hold him to the standard of a 25 years old is to basically suggest that you are okay with him getting hurt and potentially jeopardizing his post season availability.

You’re going to hate these facts but out of the 2 ECF matchups we’ve had against the Celtics Bam easily outplayed Jimmy in 1, Jimmy easily outplayed him in 1.

Of the 2 playoff matchups we’ve had against the Bucks, they basically played to a wash in 1, bam easily outplayed him in the other.

This is literally all there for you to see lol we’ve got to stop the false narratives. We’re all pointing the finger at the wrong guys if we’re being honest.

Nice try.

Bam isn’t seeing anything close to the same defensive prioritization as Jimmy has.

In the bubble, Bam was the 3rd option, sometimes the 4th, and was treated as such.

[3ammy3uck3ts]

Jimmy got that contract because he’s proven to be a reliable alpha option in the playoffs who can match the likes of Tatem and even Giannis to some degree.

At this stage of his career, that’s the only thing that matters.

He turns it on when its necessary to preserve him for the playoffs.

To hold him to the standard of a 25 years old is to basically suggest that you are okay with him getting hurt and potentially jeopardizing his post season availability.

You’re going to hate these facts but out of the 2 ECF matchups we’ve had against the Celtics Bam easily outplayed Jimmy in 1, Jimmy easily outplayed him in 1.

Of the 2 playoff matchups we’ve had against the Bucks, they basically played to a wash in 1, bam easily outplayed him in the other.

This is literally all there for you to see lol we’ve got to stop the false narratives. We’re all pointing the finger at the wrong guys if we’re being honest.

Nice try.

Bam isn’t seeing anything close to the same defensive prioritization as Jimmy has.

In the bubble, Bam was the 3rd option, sometimes the 4th, and was treated as such.

The goal post moving

Goodness brother, you just never back anything you say with something of substance do you? I’ll let you have your little field day though, this has been an amazing 2 weeks for you. We’ll see you the next time Bam plays bad, other than that I’m sure we won’t

[Beenie]

You’re going to hate these facts but out of the 2 ECF matchups we’ve had against the Celtics Bam easily outplayed Jimmy in 1, Jimmy easily outplayed him in 1.

Of the 2 playoff matchups we’ve had against the Bucks, they basically played to a wash in 1, bam easily outplayed him in the other.

This is literally all there for you to see lol we’ve got to stop the false narratives. We’re all pointing the finger at the wrong guys if we’re being honest.

Nice try.

Bam isn’t seeing anything close to the same defensive prioritization as Jimmy has.

In the bubble, Bam was the 3rd option, sometimes the 4th, and was treated as such.

The goal post moving

Goodness brother, you just never back anything you say with something of substance do you? I’ll let you have your little field day though, this has been an amazing 2 weeks for you. We’ll see you the next time Bam plays bad, other than that I’m sure we won’t

And all of your takes are often free of any nuance

You would have us all believe that Bam and Jimmy are equally impactful against the Celtics

[3ammy3uck3ts]

Nice try.

Bam isn’t seeing anything close to the same defensive prioritization as Jimmy has.

In the bubble, Bam was the 3rd option, sometimes the 4th, and was treated as such.

The goal post moving

Goodness brother, you just never back anything you say with something of substance do you? I’ll let you have your little field day though, this has been an amazing 2 weeks for you. We’ll see you the next time Bam plays bad, other than that I’m sure we won’t

And all of your takes are often free of any nuance

You would have us all believe that Bam and Jimmy are equally impactful against the Celtics

No I just know ball AND am educated with the statistics to back my claims.

Last season? Nah, it was Jimmy and a bunch of nothing for 3 of the 7 games.

[3ballbomber]

Nice try.

Bam isn’t seeing anything close to the same defensive prioritization as Jimmy has.

In the bubble, Bam was the 3rd option, sometimes the 4th, and was treated as such.

The goal post moving

Goodness brother, you just never back anything you say with something of substance do you? I’ll let you have your little field day though, this has been an amazing 2 weeks for you. We’ll see you the next time Bam plays bad, other than that I’m sure we won’t

And all of your takes are often free of any nuance

You would have us all believe that Bam and Jimmy are equally impactful against the Celtics

it's common knowledge dude has Bam's peanuts on his tonsils. don't even bother

[3ammy3uck3ts]

The goal post moving

Goodness brother, you just never back anything you say with something of substance do you? I’ll let you have your little field day though, this has been an amazing 2 weeks for you. We’ll see you the next time Bam plays bad, other than that I’m sure we won’t

And all of your takes are often free of any nuance

You would have us all believe that Bam and Jimmy are equally impactful against the Celtics

it's common knowledge dude has Bam's peanuts on his tonsils. don't even bother

The irony

S/O to TS3 hating from the shadows by the way

[3ammy3uck3ts]

By all means guys, debunk anything I’ve said with a legit argument. Not the trolling ****, a legit argument.

[MHeat0279]

It really is just a damn shame some of you can’t appreciate the elite young talent Bam is and only post when he has a bad game, which is rarely why we see some of you post

He IS the future of this franchise. He IS the next Heat great. He IS the guy who is going to attract elite talent to this team in the future.

Not that we do not appreciate it, we just dont see it. We dont see him as ever being an elite player much less a franchise's cornerstone. He is who he is, a good defensive player with limited scoring ability, spare the misleading stats, it gets boring and as said before doesnt show the whole picture. He has improved but nowhere near being elite. Is Jimmy overpaid? Maybe. But you can bank on Jimmy being the best player by far in the playoffs than any other player on this team, he is the sole reason the Miami Hear are not completely unwatchable.

And that is just flat out wrong and a damn shame that’s how some of you view him tbh. At least the Heat know how good he is.

Good defender? No, he’s an elite top of the world level defender. Limited scoring ability? He’s grown here every year and is averaging 21 on high efficiency. He leads the entire nba in points in the paint as he’s added to his game. Not just the Heat, the ENTIRE league. Has the most 30 point games in this team and his big games actually lead to wins. He’s top 10 in the league in 4th quarter points where he is also doing it on the highest efficiency. Is who he is? No, how can you say that about a player who has literally improved every single season of his career? He’s a multiple time all star at the young age of 25 and STILL improving, would be 3 time at minimum if not for hand surgery last season that sidelined him for a big chunk of the season.



You’re letting a bad 2 week stretch negate everything he’s done this season and the growth he’s shown this season and that’s just ignorant. I’m glad your having your time to shine but it’s a shame you only stop by when he plays bad

I show up when time allows me.he has improve but he is not Elite by any stretch of the imagination, i will be glad to eat my own words if Bam has a series like Jimmy had in the playoffs, as its been shown multiple times that is not the case. Need to be consistent to be an allstar friend, you never know what you will get with him.

[MHeat0279]

By all means guys, debunk anything I’ve said with a legit argument. Not the trolling ****, a legit argument.

No stats needed, he got literally shut down by timelord against Boston, everytime the guy played Bam was a nonfactor. Sometimes i wonder if you actually watch the games and stop searching for sometimes misleading stats.

[3ammy3uck3ts]

Not that we do not appreciate it, we just dont see it. We dont see him as ever being an elite player much less a franchise's cornerstone. He is who he is, a good defensive player with limited scoring ability, spare the misleading stats, it gets boring and as said before doesnt show the whole picture. He has improved but nowhere near being elite. Is Jimmy overpaid? Maybe. But you can bank on Jimmy being the best player by far in the playoffs than any other player on this team, he is the sole reason the Miami Hear are not completely unwatchable.

And that is just flat out wrong and a damn shame that’s how some of you view him tbh. At least the Heat know how good he is.

Good defender? No, he’s an elite top of the world level defender. Limited scoring ability? He’s grown here every year and is averaging 21 on high efficiency. He leads the entire nba in points in the paint as he’s added to his game. Not just the Heat, the ENTIRE league. Has the most 30 point games in this team and his big games actually lead to wins. He’s top 10 in the league in 4th quarter points where he is also doing it on the highest efficiency. Is who he is? No, how can you say that about a player who has literally improved every single season of his career? He’s a multiple time all star at the young age of 25 and STILL improving, would be 3 time at minimum if not for hand surgery last season that sidelined him for a big chunk of the season.



You’re letting a bad 2 week stretch negate everything he’s done this season and the growth he’s shown this season and that’s just ignorant. I’m glad your having your time to shine but it’s a shame you only stop by when he plays bad

I show up when time allows me.he has improve but he is not Elite by any stretch of the imagination, i will be glad to eat my own words if Bam has a series like Jimmy had in the playoffs, as its been shown multiple times that is not the case. Need to be consistent to be an allstar friend, you never know what you will get with him.

I’d check the all star teams for this season my brother!

[3ammy3uck3ts]

By all means guys, debunk anything I’ve said with a legit argument. Not the trolling ****, a legit argument.

No stats needed, he got literally shut down by timelord against Boston, everytime the guy played Bam was a nonfactor. Sometimes i wonder if you actually watch the games and stop searching for sometimes misleading stats.

I never mentioned anything about that.

What happened last time he played “time lord”?

[3ammy3uck3ts]

Mheat if you had to guess Bams shooting percentage in the playoffs when guarded by “time lord” what do you think it would be?

[MHeat0279]

Mheat if you had to guess Bams shooting percentage in the playoffs when guarded by “time lord” what do you think it would be?

Did he get shut down or not? Bam doesnt have the skills to score at will like Embiid, Giannis etc etc those are elite players. Bam is not and you dont build a franchise around non elite players. Up until last season all it took was a tall guy to disable Bam's limited offensive game, this year his jumper is a lot better and as you can see he can score more, but to call him elite is crazy.

[MHeat0279]

Mheat if you had to guess Bams shooting percentage in the playoffs when guarded by “time lord” what do you think it would be?

How many unassisted shots he took? Shooting percentage doesnt mean much if you take 5 shots in a game and score on 4. You can go back to those posts and you can see the common denominator was the same, timelord playing and Bam having a subpar game. I am sorry but if you are elite you simply dont get taken out of the game by freaking timelord.

[3ammy3uck3ts]

Mheat if you had to guess Bams shooting percentage in the playoffs when guarded by “time lord” what do you think it would be?

Did he get shut down or not? Bam doesnt have the skills to score at will like Embiid, Giannis etc etc those are elite players. Bam is not and you dont build a franchise around non elite players. Up until last season all it took was a tall guy to disable Bam's limited offensive game, this year his jumper is a lot better and as you can see he can score more, but to call him elite is crazy.

Who said he’s Embiid or Gianni’s? Who said he’s the first option on a championship team? You equate elite with PPG when that’s only a fraction of the game (a fraction Bam is also pretty damn good at). I mean hell you just said yourself he’s improving, so why have you been acting like he’s a finished product?

What did he have in game 7? What did he have last game against the Celtics this season vs “Timelord”

[wade44]

I mean if you need paid shills/fan boys to defend you online why do you need to be defended in the first place? There shouldn’t need to be some kind of forced bond between the fans and Bam. When Bam actually achieves something with us that is worthwhile (like winning and performing in the playoffs), then fans will begin to naturally accept him.