2023 Miami Heat Regular Season Thread - Westbrook and Love edition

[eddieheatfan]

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[al bondiga]

We have always known jb we is a f*ck head

[Timantha]

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Our defense got worse after the trade deadline

[BBallFreak]

Man what could've been.

Probably could have had him for Lowry and a salary filler. SMDH.

And then had Bam and Jimmy both ask out because he was too much of a distraction. SMDH indeed.

[EMC5466]

Ethan Skolnick says Jimmy is considered a nightmare to deal with behind the scenes and there’s some people in the organization that would love to see him leave. He also said he doesn’t believe Jimmy will ask for a trade and he still has a good relationship with Spoelstra.

[dshearn]

At this point I really wish they would just play Jovic and Yurt a ton save the legs of the older guys and prep for the play-in.

I love Herro, but I am ready for him to go back to being the 6th man until he is stronger, or at worst let him be a slightly better Strus. Far to often he heads to the corner and sits there when he does not have the ball. At least Duncan was in constant motion.


In a game like Orlando having Duncan really could not have hurt the defense, because no one was playing defense. Maybe it is time to give Duncan more burn when he gets healthy, what ever we are running on offense this year it does not appear to have an advantage on the old hand off offense. Just have Zeller and Duncan spam hand offs and dump it inside for bam on occasion until Jimmy wants to play iso ball then everyone can get out of his way until he gets tired again.

[Vertical Limit]

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Game was over.. why ask such a dumb question … now could he have handled his emotions better.. sure.. but im not reading too much into it. jimmy is a pro..

If he starts acting up more then thats when we start to worry about it.. well not actually worry as i am Team “Blow it up”.. im ready to start the next chapter of the Miami Heat without Butler, Lowry and Robinson..

[Timantha]

Ethan Skolnick says Jimmy is considered a nightmare to deal with behind the scenes and there’s some people in the organization that would love to see him leave. He also said he doesn’t believe Jimmy will ask for a trade and he still has a good relationship with Spoelstra.

Where did Ethan say this

[3ballbomber]

Ethan Skolnick says Jimmy is considered a nightmare to deal with behind the scenes and there’s some people in the organization that would love to see him leave. He also said he doesn’t believe Jimmy will ask for a trade and he still has a good relationship with Spoelstra.

Not sure i believe this but also history will tell ya alpha's are hard to handle...Jordan, Kobe etc. Butler's a winning player cut from the same cloth. He's w/ the correct organisation.

[3ballbomber]

Love addition is becoming quite the poison pill, not only is he sucking, he's also taking space Jovic should be getting.

I see no reason to play these washed up vets for a team that's not going anywhere.

Quite a depressing team this is - with all these has-beens entitled divas.

cats were so excited about Love This ain't 2010 or 2013. Love looks like a dad who turns up to pick up games smelling like Deep Heat.

[3ammy3uck3ts]

I want the Celtics first round, they’re falling apart and we’ve actually played them very well this season. Bam Jimmy and Herro have been dominant

[3ammy3uck3ts]

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[3ballbomber]

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Not human right Bam

[3ballbomber]

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Jimbo built like that. dude in peak shape.

He's absolutely right. We rely too much on 3's and not enough attacking the paint. Bully ball it is for Buckets.

[Wiltside]

I’m ok with bully ball Buckets, provided he gives the defense some different looks. Keep ‘em honest with the three ball, prioritize paint attacks for FT trips and EZ buckets.

Jimmy turning it up now. Need the rest of the supporting cast to come with him.

[Kobewade11]

Ethan Skolnick says Jimmy is considered a nightmare to deal with behind the scenes and there’s some people in the organization that would love to see him leave. He also said he doesn’t believe Jimmy will ask for a trade and he still has a good relationship with Spoelstra.

Ethan is so full of ****.

[3ammy3uck3ts]

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[AirP.]

There's like 4-5 players in the rotation that aren't net negatives. Miami's role-players are usually much higher since they're playing a role but unfortunately for Miami, they have been asked to do more and it's hurt the team. I have no idea what the FO is doing, this roster didn't even have a non-rookie PF on the roster for most of the season. Jovic may be good down the road but wow, why not use that draft pick(or draft for some other team) in a trade for a good player now?

What's really bad, nearly everyone on this board saw this coming when the FO did nothing (other than the annual let the starting PF walk for nothing) in the offseason because there was a very low chance, they could get KD. The risk vs reward ratio is completely out of whack for this FO, they're throwing away seasons for extremely low chance moves.

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+-----------------+-----+-----+-----+----+---+---+---+---+---+----+----+---------+
|Player           |TS%  |2pt% |3pt% |Pts |Ast|Reb|Stl|Blk|TO |ORTG|DRTG|NetRating|
+-----------------+-----+-----+-----+----+---+---+---+---+---+----+----+---------+
|Jimmy Butler     |0.635|0.551|0.337|22.6|5  |6.1|1.9|0.4|1.7|132 |111 |21       |
|Jamal Cain       |0.579|0.632|0.167|4.4 |0.6|2.6|0.5|0  |0.3|123 |112 |11       |
|Orlando Robinson |0.572|0.568|0    |3.9 |0.7|4.1|0.4|0.4|0.5|121 |110 |11       |
|Cody Zeller      |0.601|0.536|0    |4.7 |0.6|3.5|0.2|0.4|0.8|119 |113 |6        |
|Bam Adebayo      |0.592|0.546|0.083|20.9|3.2|9.4|1.2|0.8|2.6|115 |110 |5        |
|Dewayne Dedmon   |0.576|0.576|0.297|5.7 |0.5|3.6|0.2|0.5|0.6|113 |109 |4        |
|Caleb Martin     |0.577|0.539|0.372|10.2|1.6|4.9|1  |0.5|1.1|113 |113 |0        |
|Kyle Lowry       |0.556|0.503|0.339|11.9|5.2|4.2|1.1|0.4|2  |113 |113 |0        |
|Kevin Love       |0.521|0.667|0.25 |7.5 |1.6|6.6|0.5|0.3|1.1|106 |110 |-4       |
|Max Strus        |0.548|0.564|0.338|11.7|2.1|3.4|0.6|0.2|0.9|111 |116 |-5       |
|Tyler Herro      |0.557|0.482|0.376|20.3|4.3|5.7|0.8|0.3|2.5|108 |114 |-6       |
|Nikola Jović     |0.53 |0.588|0.229|5.5 |0.7|2.1|0.5|0.1|0.7|105 |113 |-8       |
|Duncan Robinson  |0.537|0.528|0.335|6.7 |1.2|1.8|0.4|0  |0.6|107 |116 |-9       |
|Haywood Highsmith|0.521|0.506|0.356|4.6 |0.7|3.6|0.7|0.3|0.8|102 |112 |-10      |
|Omer Yurtseven   |0.333|0.333|0    |1   |0  |2.5|0  |0  |0  |105 |116 |-11      |
|Gabe Vincent     |0.525|0.508|0.323|9.5 |2.5|2.2|0.9|0.1|1.5|102 |115 |-13      |
|Dru Smith        |0.393|0.5  |0.167|2.2 |1  |1.8|0.8|0.6|0.2|94  |108 |-14      |
|Victor Oladipo   |0.505|0.471|0.316|10.3|3.4|3.2|1.4|0.3|2  |98  |112 |-14      |
|Jamaree Bouyea   |0.54 |0.5  |0.4  |3.8 |1  |1.3|1  |0.5|1  |93  |110 |-17      |
|Udonis Haslem    |0.116|0.1  |0    |0.5 |0  |1.3|0.2|0.2|0  |50  |114 |-64      |
+-----------------+-----+-----+-----+----+---+---+---+---+---+----+----+---------+

[3ammy3uck3ts]

There's like 4-5 players in the rotation that aren't net negatives. Miami's role-players are usually much higher since they're playing a role but unfortunately for Miami, they have been asked to do more and it's hurt the team. I have no idea what the FO is doing, this roster didn't even have a non-rookie PF on the roster for most of the season. Jovic may be good down the road but wow, why not use that draft pick(or draft for some other team) in a trade for a good player now?

What's really bad, nearly everyone on this board saw this coming when the FO did nothing (other than the annual let the starting PF walk for nothing) in the offseason because there was a very low chance, they could get KD. The risk vs reward ratio is completely out of whack for this FO, they're throwing away seasons for extremely low chance moves.

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+-----------------+-----+-----+-----+----+---+---+---+---+---+----+----+---------+
|Player           |TS%  |2pt% |3pt% |Pts |Ast|Reb|Stl|Blk|TO |ORTG|DRTG|NetRating|
+-----------------+-----+-----+-----+----+---+---+---+---+---+----+----+---------+
|Jimmy Butler     |0.635|0.551|0.337|22.6|5  |6.1|1.9|0.4|1.7|132 |111 |21       |
|Jamal Cain       |0.579|0.632|0.167|4.4 |0.6|2.6|0.5|0  |0.3|123 |112 |11       |
|Orlando Robinson |0.572|0.568|0    |3.9 |0.7|4.1|0.4|0.4|0.5|121 |110 |11       |
|Cody Zeller      |0.601|0.536|0    |4.7 |0.6|3.5|0.2|0.4|0.8|119 |113 |6        |
|Bam Adebayo      |0.592|0.546|0.083|20.9|3.2|9.4|1.2|0.8|2.6|115 |110 |5        |
|Dewayne Dedmon   |0.576|0.576|0.297|5.7 |0.5|3.6|0.2|0.5|0.6|113 |109 |4        |
|Caleb Martin     |0.577|0.539|0.372|10.2|1.6|4.9|1  |0.5|1.1|113 |113 |0        |
|Kyle Lowry       |0.556|0.503|0.339|11.9|5.2|4.2|1.1|0.4|2  |113 |113 |0        |
|Kevin Love       |0.521|0.667|0.25 |7.5 |1.6|6.6|0.5|0.3|1.1|106 |110 |-4       |
|Max Strus        |0.548|0.564|0.338|11.7|2.1|3.4|0.6|0.2|0.9|111 |116 |-5       |
|Tyler Herro      |0.557|0.482|0.376|20.3|4.3|5.7|0.8|0.3|2.5|108 |114 |-6       |
|Nikola Jović     |0.53 |0.588|0.229|5.5 |0.7|2.1|0.5|0.1|0.7|105 |113 |-8       |
|Duncan Robinson  |0.537|0.528|0.335|6.7 |1.2|1.8|0.4|0  |0.6|107 |116 |-9       |
|Haywood Highsmith|0.521|0.506|0.356|4.6 |0.7|3.6|0.7|0.3|0.8|102 |112 |-10      |
|Omer Yurtseven   |0.333|0.333|0    |1   |0  |2.5|0  |0  |0  |105 |116 |-11      |
|Gabe Vincent     |0.525|0.508|0.323|9.5 |2.5|2.2|0.9|0.1|1.5|102 |115 |-13      |
|Dru Smith        |0.393|0.5  |0.167|2.2 |1  |1.8|0.8|0.6|0.2|94  |108 |-14      |
|Victor Oladipo   |0.505|0.471|0.316|10.3|3.4|3.2|1.4|0.3|2  |98  |112 |-14      |
|Jamaree Bouyea   |0.54 |0.5  |0.4  |3.8 |1  |1.3|1  |0.5|1  |93  |110 |-17      |
|Udonis Haslem    |0.116|0.1  |0    |0.5 |0  |1.3|0.2|0.2|0  |50  |114 |-64      |
+-----------------+-----+-----+-----+----+---+---+---+---+---+----+----+---------+

3 rotation guys not in the negative and one of them just got here

Damn Herro…..

[SoFlaKingReal]

There's like 4-5 players in the rotation that aren't net negatives. Miami's role-players are usually much higher since they're playing a role but unfortunately for Miami, they have been asked to do more and it's hurt the team. I have no idea what the FO is doing, this roster didn't even have a non-rookie PF on the roster for most of the season. Jovic may be good down the road but wow, why not use that draft pick(or draft for some other team) in a trade for a good player now?

What's really bad, nearly everyone on this board saw this coming when the FO did nothing (other than the annual let the starting PF walk for nothing) in the offseason because there was a very low chance, they could get KD. The risk vs reward ratio is completely out of whack for this FO, they're throwing away seasons for extremely low chance moves.

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+-----------------+-----+-----+-----+----+---+---+---+---+---+----+----+---------+
|Player           |TS%  |2pt% |3pt% |Pts |Ast|Reb|Stl|Blk|TO |ORTG|DRTG|NetRating|
+-----------------+-----+-----+-----+----+---+---+---+---+---+----+----+---------+
|Jimmy Butler     |0.635|0.551|0.337|22.6|5  |6.1|1.9|0.4|1.7|132 |111 |21       |
|Jamal Cain       |0.579|0.632|0.167|4.4 |0.6|2.6|0.5|0  |0.3|123 |112 |11       |
|Orlando Robinson |0.572|0.568|0    |3.9 |0.7|4.1|0.4|0.4|0.5|121 |110 |11       |
|Cody Zeller      |0.601|0.536|0    |4.7 |0.6|3.5|0.2|0.4|0.8|119 |113 |6        |
|Bam Adebayo      |0.592|0.546|0.083|20.9|3.2|9.4|1.2|0.8|2.6|115 |110 |5        |
|Dewayne Dedmon   |0.576|0.576|0.297|5.7 |0.5|3.6|0.2|0.5|0.6|113 |109 |4        |
|Caleb Martin     |0.577|0.539|0.372|10.2|1.6|4.9|1  |0.5|1.1|113 |113 |0        |
|Kyle Lowry       |0.556|0.503|0.339|11.9|5.2|4.2|1.1|0.4|2  |113 |113 |0        |
|Kevin Love       |0.521|0.667|0.25 |7.5 |1.6|6.6|0.5|0.3|1.1|106 |110 |-4       |
|Max Strus        |0.548|0.564|0.338|11.7|2.1|3.4|0.6|0.2|0.9|111 |116 |-5       |
|Tyler Herro      |0.557|0.482|0.376|20.3|4.3|5.7|0.8|0.3|2.5|108 |114 |-6       |
|Nikola Jović     |0.53 |0.588|0.229|5.5 |0.7|2.1|0.5|0.1|0.7|105 |113 |-8       |
|Duncan Robinson  |0.537|0.528|0.335|6.7 |1.2|1.8|0.4|0  |0.6|107 |116 |-9       |
|Haywood Highsmith|0.521|0.506|0.356|4.6 |0.7|3.6|0.7|0.3|0.8|102 |112 |-10      |
|Omer Yurtseven   |0.333|0.333|0    |1   |0  |2.5|0  |0  |0  |105 |116 |-11      |
|Gabe Vincent     |0.525|0.508|0.323|9.5 |2.5|2.2|0.9|0.1|1.5|102 |115 |-13      |
|Dru Smith        |0.393|0.5  |0.167|2.2 |1  |1.8|0.8|0.6|0.2|94  |108 |-14      |
|Victor Oladipo   |0.505|0.471|0.316|10.3|3.4|3.2|1.4|0.3|2  |98  |112 |-14      |
|Jamaree Bouyea   |0.54 |0.5  |0.4  |3.8 |1  |1.3|1  |0.5|1  |93  |110 |-17      |
|Udonis Haslem    |0.116|0.1  |0    |0.5 |0  |1.3|0.2|0.2|0  |50  |114 |-64      |
+-----------------+-----+-----+-----+----+---+---+---+---+---+----+----+---------+

You aren’t enjoying last night’s victory?