Scoot Henderson

[JMAC3]

Miller is 29/80 over his last 5 and you are gushing about him so whats the difference? And please don't reference all of those penalty FTs in the last game.

The main difference is clearly 3PAr. And defense but that's another topic.

If you want to discuss shot distribution (valid) or defense (which I think you're overstating) then that conversation can be had, but JMAC3 only posted FGM/FGA.

Clearly the difference in 3 point volume matters. I wasn't making a shooting comparison to Miller when I posted Scoot stats.

So yes lets make the comparison now over this 5 game span.

Scoot
25/75 broken down is 22/61 or 36% from 2 point. He is 3/14 or 21.4% from three

Miller
29/80 broken down is 15/33 from 2 point or 45.5%. He is 14/47 or 30% from three

So Miller is shooting significantly better from both ranges.

[reanimator]

The main difference is clearly 3PAr. And defense but that's another topic.

If you want to discuss shot distribution (valid) or defense (which I think you're overstating) then that conversation can be had, but JMAC3 only posted FGM/FGA.

Clearly the difference in 3 point volume matters. I wasn't making a shooting comparison to Miller when I posted Scoot stats.

So yes lets make the comparison now over this 5 game span.

Scoot
25/75 broken down is 22/61 or 36% from 2 point. He is 3/14 or 21.4% from three

Miller
29/80 broken down is 15/33 from 2 point or 45.5%. He is 14/47 or 30% from three

So Miller is shooting significantly better from both ranges.

He is a whopping 14/47 in his past 5 games from 3 so in other words he is struggling. You don't get credit for shot distribution if you aren't connecting on them, but that wasn't even your original argument. Toss out the game against the JV league defense Missouri and you probably have something at least somewhat comparable to the G league.

[JMAC3]

If you want to discuss shot distribution (valid) or defense (which I think you're overstating) then that conversation can be had, but JMAC3 only posted FGM/FGA.

Clearly the difference in 3 point volume matters. I wasn't making a shooting comparison to Miller when I posted Scoot stats.

So yes lets make the comparison now over this 5 game span.

Scoot
25/75 broken down is 22/61 or 36% from 2 point. He is 3/14 or 21.4% from three

Miller
29/80 broken down is 15/33 from 2 point or 45.5%. He is 14/47 or 30% from three

So Miller is shooting significantly better from both ranges.

He is a whopping 14/47 in his past 5 games from 3 so in other words he is struggling. You don't get credit for shot distribution if you aren't connecting on them, but that wasn't even your original argument. Toss out the game against the JV league defense Missouri and you probably have something at least somewhat comparable to the G league.

Great, we have established both players have gone through struggles at some point this year.

Who has the better overall shooting numbers?
Who has had the best peak games?

[JMAC3]

we pretty much haven't seen anything like Scoot, that's not saying he's this generational prospect, but i wouldn't recommend NBA teams get cute about this.

Why is he shooting 25/75 from the field over his last 5 games if he is some mythical prospect?

but hey he looks good in shorts.

this is me caring about Scoot's shooting metrics at this point:

So yeah lets ignore his overall numbers, his shooting numbers, his size, his lack of improvement... because there is a photo where he looks big in a workout photo and he is a highly touted prospect

but but but he is an elite athelte.... again lets ignore his lack of FTA, lack of dunks and just overall his propensity to settle for midrange jumpers (leading the Gleague on midrange shots per game).


but but but he is putting up really good stats in the gleague compared to Dyson Daniels, Kuminga and Beauchamp... and those guys are all really elite NBA players... oh wait they aren't? they are bench players. Well ignore that too then.

[reanimator]

Clearly the difference in 3 point volume matters. I wasn't making a shooting comparison to Miller when I posted Scoot stats.

So yes lets make the comparison now over this 5 game span.

Scoot
25/75 broken down is 22/61 or 36% from 2 point. He is 3/14 or 21.4% from three

Miller
29/80 broken down is 15/33 from 2 point or 45.5%. He is 14/47 or 30% from three

So Miller is shooting significantly better from both ranges.

He is a whopping 14/47 in his past 5 games from 3 so in other words he is struggling. You don't get credit for shot distribution if you aren't connecting on them, but that wasn't even your original argument. Toss out the game against the JV league defense Missouri and you probably have something at least somewhat comparable to the G league.

Great, we have established both players have gone through struggles at some point this year.

Who has the better overall shooting numbers?
Who has had the best peak games?

Miller is obviously the better shooter. Hands down and his shot distribution is better even if I expect Scoot to be a much better finisher than Miller at the pro level.

but Miller is also playing against inferior competition.

There are no Missouris, Georgias, Ole Miss in the G league. Don't get me started on the non-conference portion of these college player's schedules. I'll easily take Scoot's peak performances with Ignite.

[JMAC3]

He is a whopping 14/47 in his past 5 games from 3 so in other words he is struggling. You don't get credit for shot distribution if you aren't connecting on them, but that wasn't even your original argument. Toss out the game against the JV league defense Missouri and you probably have something at least somewhat comparable to the G league.

Great, we have established both players have gone through struggles at some point this year.

Who has the better overall shooting numbers?
Who has had the best peak games?

Miller is obviously the better shooter. Hands down and his shot distribution is better even if I expect Scoot to be a much better finisher than Miller at the pro level.

but Miller is also playing against inferior competition.

There are no Missouris, Georgias, Ole Miss in the G league. Don't get me started on the non-conference portion of these college player's schedules. I'll easily take Scoot's peak performances with Ignite.

His peak performances playing on an 8-11 team where he has hit no game winners and struggling to score 20 ppg in a fast-paced scoring league that stats are easy to come by.

Vs Miller playing on a 25-6 team and being the #1 overall seed in the tourney, with multiple clutch moments of game altering shots and 4 30+ point performances.

You do you I suppose.

Scoot playing in front of 200 fans vs Miller playing in front of thousands of crazy fans heckling him. Scoot could go 1/15 tonight and they lose by 20 and nobody would talk about it tomorrow.

[clyde21]

Why is he shooting 25/75 from the field over his last 5 games if he is some mythical prospect?

but hey he looks good in shorts.

this is me caring about Scoot's shooting metrics at this point:

So yeah lets ignore his overall numbers, his shooting numbers, his size, his lack of improvement... because there is a photo where he looks big in a workout photo and he is a highly touted prospect

but but but he is an elite athelte.... again lets ignore his lack of FTA, lack of dunks and just overall his propensity to settle for midrange jumpers (leading the Gleague on midrange shots per game).


but but but he is putting up really good stats in the gleague compared to Dyson Daniels, Kuminga and Beauchamp... and those guys are all really elite NBA players... oh wait they aren't? they are bench players. Well ignore that too then.

let me know when you're done making a fool of yourself and want to have an adult convo

[JMAC3]

this is me caring about Scoot's shooting metrics at this point:

So yeah lets ignore his overall numbers, his shooting numbers, his size, his lack of improvement... because there is a photo where he looks big in a workout photo and he is a highly touted prospect

but but but he is an elite athelte.... again lets ignore his lack of FTA, lack of dunks and just overall his propensity to settle for midrange jumpers (leading the Gleague on midrange shots per game).


but but but he is putting up really good stats in the gleague compared to Dyson Daniels, Kuminga and Beauchamp... and those guys are all really elite NBA players... oh wait they aren't? they are bench players. Well ignore that too then.

let me know when you're done making a fool of yourself and want to have an adult convo

I mean I just laid out a ton of facts and concerns. whether you like the structure or not.

vs you putting a meme and saying shooting doesn't matter.

[reanimator]

Great, we have established both players have gone through struggles at some point this year.

Who has the better overall shooting numbers?
Who has had the best peak games?

Miller is obviously the better shooter. Hands down and his shot distribution is better even if I expect Scoot to be a much better finisher than Miller at the pro level.

but Miller is also playing against inferior competition.

There are no Missouris, Georgias, Ole Miss in the G league. Don't get me started on the non-conference portion of these college player's schedules. I'll easily take Scoot's peak performances with Ignite.

His peak performances playing on an 8-11 team where he has hit no game winners and struggling to score 20 ppg in a fast-paced scoring league that stats are easy to come by.

Vs Miller playing on a 25-6 team and being the #1 overall seed in the tourney, with multiple clutch moments of game altering shots and 4 30+ point performances.

You do you I suppose.

Scoot playing in front of 200 fans vs Miller playing in front of thousands of crazy fans heckling him. Scoot could go 1/15 tonight and they lose by 20 and nobody would talk about it tomorrow.

What does who is in the audience have to do with anything?

I'm supposed to give Miller the nod because he plays with elite guards, elite rim protectors, stretch bigs and his team holistically is above most of the field? 75% of those 25 wins are against subpar defense even for NCAA standards. If anything, Scoot playing on a talent poor team against grown men makes his peak performance even more incredible.

The thing with me is I have not 1 issue criticizing bad performance or any flaw I perceive when I watch Scoot.

If he sucks, I will adjust my eval and drop him but for now I see mostly reaches beyond concerns with his shot distribution.

[JMAC3]

What does who is in the audience have to do with anything?

I'm supposed to give Miller the nod because he plays with elite guards, elite rim protectors, stretch bigs and his team holistically is above most of the field? 75% of those 25 wins are against subpar defense even for NCAA standards. If anything, Scoot playing on a talent poor team against grown men makes his peak performance even more incredible.

The thing with me is I have not 1 issue criticizing bad performance or any flaw I perceive when I watch Scoot.

If he sucks, I will adjust my eval and drop him but for now I see mostly reaches beyond concerns with his shot distribution.

You don't think the environment or the pressure of playing well matters at all? nor does winning?

We will just disagree there, no need to deep dive.

No issues outside of shot distribution? What about actually making shots?

[Big J]

Scoot lacks self awareness if he's taking and bricking a **** ton of long 2's. He doesn't even have close to prime Westbrooks athleticism, so it's weird that he's being propped up based on some hypothetical world where he completely changes his game.

[reanimator]

What does who is in the audience have to do with anything?

I'm supposed to give Miller the nod because he plays with elite guards, elite rim protectors, stretch bigs and his team holistically is above most of the field? 75% of those 25 wins are against subpar defense even for NCAA standards. If anything, Scoot playing on a talent poor team against grown men makes his peak performance even more incredible.

The thing with me is I have not 1 issue criticizing bad performance or any flaw I perceive when I watch Scoot.

If he sucks, I will adjust my eval and drop him but for now I see mostly reaches beyond concerns with his shot distribution.

You don't think the environment or the pressure of playing well matters at all? nor does winning?

We will just disagree there, no need to deep dive.

No issues outside of shot distribution? What about actually making shots?

I mean I don't think his efficiency is anything to be concerned about for a 19 year old in the G league but some of that is tied to shot distribution and I expect him to improve significantly as a willing finisher.

[reanimator]

https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/270805/Scoot-Henderson-Shut-Down-For-Remainder-Of-G-League-Season

well that sucks

[Big J]

https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/270805/Scoot-Henderson-Shut-Down-For-Remainder-Of-G-League-Season

well that sucks

Lol, just as his stock starts slipping.

[EvanZ]

Apparently he's been injured all season.

[PaKwAn]

That's next level load (stock) management right there.

[Big J]

Apparently he's been injured all season.

Why was he even playing then? Sounds like excuses for his poor play.

[Hal14]

Apparently he's been injured all season.

Why was he even playing then? Sounds like excuses for his poor play.

Because missing the entire season with an injury would've been worse for his draft stock.

[JMAC3]

https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/270805/Scoot-Henderson-Shut-Down-For-Remainder-Of-G-League-Season

well that sucks

Decided to stop before his 3 pt percentage dropped below 25%

[clyde21]

So yeah lets ignore his overall numbers, his shooting numbers, his size, his lack of improvement... because there is a photo where he looks big in a workout photo and he is a highly touted prospect

but but but he is an elite athelte.... again lets ignore his lack of FTA, lack of dunks and just overall his propensity to settle for midrange jumpers (leading the Gleague on midrange shots per game).


but but but he is putting up really good stats in the gleague compared to Dyson Daniels, Kuminga and Beauchamp... and those guys are all really elite NBA players... oh wait they aren't? they are bench players. Well ignore that too then.

let me know when you're done making a fool of yourself and want to have an adult convo

I mean I just laid out a ton of facts and concerns. whether you like the structure or not.

vs you putting a meme and saying shooting doesn't matter.

well it's hard to know where to start, all you've done in this thread is 1) embarrassingly claim it's easier to play in the G League than it is to play against Tartelton St., 2) strawmanned me acting like I called Scoot a "mythical" prospect, and now a childish posts that is again full of strawmanning and gaslighting, and then you complain about me responding to you with a meme. you should understand that people who only deserve meme responses will receive meme responses.