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Re: GT: Nets @ Thunder || Tuesday 3/14/23 || 8:00 PM 

Post#61 » by ArksNetsSince99 » Wed Mar 15, 2023 2:24 am

JoseRizal wrote:JV's early 2nd quarter clueless challenge went back to haunt him...


All he did right this game was clapping, just like Nash
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Re: GT: Nets @ Thunder || Tuesday 3/14/23 || 8:00 PM 

Post#62 » by Hello Brooklyn » Wed Mar 15, 2023 2:25 am

Really bad game. We collapsed in the second half. Oh well.
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Re: GT: Nets @ Thunder || Tuesday 3/14/23 || 8:00 PM 

Post#63 » by therealbig3 » Wed Mar 15, 2023 2:25 am

Dude, something happened to Dinwiddie man. He like started to believe the hype about himself and now thinks he's playing chess while everyone else plays checkers, and that he's owed something by the refs. In reality, he plays some dumbass basketball, for real. He's not a high IQ player, that much is obvious. And he still can't throw a lob to save his life, or know when not to.

Dude has been a trainwreck more than he's been good since being traded here. Which sucks, I loved what he brought to the team the first time around.
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Re: GT: Nets @ Thunder || Tuesday 3/14/23 || 8:00 PM 

Post#64 » by Rich Rane » Wed Mar 15, 2023 2:28 am

In a game of duds, Dinwiddie stood out. Difficult to do.
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Re: GT: Nets @ Thunder || Tuesday 3/14/23 || 8:00 PM 

Post#65 » by JoseRizal » Wed Mar 15, 2023 2:28 am

TheNetsFan wrote:Once Dinwiddie gets frustrated, he compounds mistake after mistake. After he threw that horrific lob and walked back while the Thunder were in transition, Vaughn needed to yank him and send a message.


He's a dumb emotional dude.

He has low bbiq and doesn't pick his spots well. Keeps on attacking the basket and ends up with uncomfortable looking shots, and expects to get the call every time.

What worse is he keeps on yanking, instead of going back to defend.

I can't wait 'til the offseason to get a quality starting PG...
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Re: GT: Nets @ Thunder || Tuesday 3/14/23 || 8:00 PM 

Post#66 » by therealbig3 » Wed Mar 15, 2023 2:31 am

Dinwiddie is also a horrific defender. How many times was it his man that totally beat him off the dribble, or his man that crashed the offensive glass because he didn't box out?

He's a talented offensive player, able to get to his spots for the most part and make some tough shots at a decent clip, but he doesn't play smart, on either end of the court. Forces a lot of things on offense that leads to bad shots or turnovers, breaks the offense by ball stopping and ISOing, not a particularly good passer, and like I said, an awful defender.

And it pretty much always costs us.
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Re: GT: Nets @ Thunder || Tuesday 3/14/23 || 8:00 PM 

Post#67 » by MGrand15 » Wed Mar 15, 2023 2:33 am

I wasn't expecting a win but this was bad. I figured with our talent we could be an average offense and really good defense. There's a large enough sample size now that it's clear that this is a bad offense. We have pretty good stretches followed by league worst level stretches. It puts so much pressure on our defense. Just unsustainable in today's NBA.

You can't survive 20 point quarters and especially not 40 point halves. We're doing that every single game.
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Re: GT: Nets @ Thunder || Tuesday 3/14/23 || 8:00 PM 

Post#68 » by CalamityX12 » Wed Mar 15, 2023 2:34 am

JoseRizal wrote:
TheNetsFan wrote:Once Dinwiddie gets frustrated, he compounds mistake after mistake. After he threw that horrific lob and walked back while the Thunder were in transition, Vaughn needed to yank him and send a message.


He's a dumb emotional dude.

He has low bbiq and doesn't pick his spots well. Keeps on attacking the basket and ends up with uncomfortable looking shots, and expects to get the call every time.

What worse is he keeps on yanking, instead of going back to defend.

I can't wait 'til the offseason to get a quality starting PG...

I can't wait to get a quality coach lol
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Re: GT: Nets @ Thunder || Tuesday 3/14/23 || 8:00 PM 

Post#69 » by ArksNetsSince99 » Wed Mar 15, 2023 2:35 am

Dinwiddie it’s a Kyrie curse , one idiot for another , trade this Dallas pick ASAP , it’s gonna yield another dumb player 100%
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Re: GT: Nets @ Thunder || Tuesday 3/14/23 || 8:00 PM 

Post#70 » by JoseRizal » Wed Mar 15, 2023 2:35 am

CalamityX12 wrote:
JoseRizal wrote:
TheNetsFan wrote:Once Dinwiddie gets frustrated, he compounds mistake after mistake. After he threw that horrific lob and walked back while the Thunder were in transition, Vaughn needed to yank him and send a message.


He's a dumb emotional dude.

He has low bbiq and doesn't pick his spots well. Keeps on attacking the basket and ends up with uncomfortable looking shots, and expects to get the call every time.

What worse is he keeps on yanking, instead of going back to defend.

I can't wait 'til the offseason to get a quality starting PG...

I can't wait to get a quality coach lol


Touche :lol:
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Re: GT: Nets @ Thunder || Tuesday 3/14/23 || 8:00 PM 

Post#71 » by ArksNetsSince99 » Wed Mar 15, 2023 2:43 am

JoseRizal wrote:
CalamityX12 wrote:
JoseRizal wrote:
He's a dumb emotional dude.

He has low bbiq and doesn't pick his spots well. Keeps on attacking the basket and ends up with uncomfortable looking shots, and expects to get the call every time.

What worse is he keeps on yanking, instead of going back to defend.

I can't wait 'til the offseason to get a quality starting PG...

I can't wait to get a quality coach lol


Touche :lol:


This idiot is clueless, all he did in press conf was excusing Dinwiddie, he actually thinks Dinwiddie played good game
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Re: GT: Nets @ Thunder || Tuesday 3/14/23 || 8:00 PM 

Post#72 » by Papi_swav » Wed Mar 15, 2023 5:18 am

Fell asleep at halftime, we was having good ball movement in the first half. Seems like Din is mostly to blame for the loss. I see why we wanted to flip him for FVV.
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Re: GT: Nets @ Thunder || Tuesday 3/14/23 || 8:00 PM 

Post#73 » by NetsJets » Wed Mar 15, 2023 10:07 am

Bad game last night it happens
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Re: GT: Nets @ Thunder || Tuesday 3/14/23 || 8:00 PM 

Post#74 » by MrDollarBills » Wed Mar 15, 2023 10:32 am

This team cannot survive unless the coaching staff adds more wrinkles to the offense. Bridges can clearly get his 24+ points but it's not enough when opponents begin to adjust. Saw the same thing in the 4th versus Denver. We need off ball actions to free up shooters and exploit holes in the defense.
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Re: GT: Nets @ Thunder || Tuesday 3/14/23 || 8:00 PM 

Post#75 » by Minnamaker » Wed Mar 15, 2023 5:48 pm

This is a dinwiddie quote I saw at netsdaily:

“When you look at the way the game is played, you get in the first quarter more plays: It’s teams feeling each other out, like a jab with boxers,” Dinwiddie said. “In the second and third you get more uptempo, a little sloppier, you get the transition buckets, the dunks, some more turnovers.

“Then when it gets in the fourth you get to the matchup basketball, where you pick out the people you want to attack … and matchup basketball is typically where I excel.”

If that is how the coaching staff sees basketball too, nothing will change. It's a stupid take though. No reason to stop the ball from moving in the 4th quarter at all. If the opponant is too good defensively to play set plays then ok, but there's 0 reason to iso hero ball just because it's the 4th quarter
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Re: GT: Nets @ Thunder || Tuesday 3/14/23 || 8:00 PM 

Post#76 » by MGrand15 » Wed Mar 15, 2023 6:18 pm

Frustrating game but my biggest takeaway - outside of our offense being below average - is that OKC is really good. Our personnel matches up perfectly with their guys but those guys are just really good. SGA and Jalen don't need switches or anything. They were just going at our elite defenders with no worries. Giddey will slice you up if you sleep on him. And Jaylin is the perfect roleplayer.

It sucks that we collapsed in the 2nd half but we were underdogs for a reason. That backcourt is ridiculous.
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Re: GT: Nets @ Thunder || Tuesday 3/14/23 || 8:00 PM 

Post#77 » by MrDollarBills » Wed Mar 15, 2023 6:41 pm

Minnamaker wrote:This is a dinwiddie quote I saw at netsdaily:

“When you look at the way the game is played, you get in the first quarter more plays: It’s teams feeling each other out, like a jab with boxers,” Dinwiddie said. “In the second and third you get more uptempo, a little sloppier, you get the transition buckets, the dunks, some more turnovers.

“Then when it gets in the fourth you get to the matchup basketball, where you pick out the people you want to attack … and matchup basketball is typically where I excel.”

If that is how the coaching staff sees basketball too, nothing will change. It's a stupid take though. No reason to stop the ball from moving in the 4th quarter at all. If the opponant is too good defensively to play set plays then ok, but there's 0 reason to iso hero ball just because it's the 4th quarter


This team isn't talented enough to play ISO ball. if that's the case then I see zero reason as to why Cam Thomas isn't being played because he's the best iso player on the team.

We should be setting a ton of screens and cutting back door. Spain PnR. It's frustrating but I guess trying to change the offense in March is just not feasible.
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Re: GT: Nets @ Thunder || Tuesday 3/14/23 || 8:00 PM 

Post#78 » by DeRoma » Wed Mar 15, 2023 8:41 pm

JV have been a complete negative ever since post kyrie/kd. His coaching ideology is ridiculous where he is forcing our guys to play 40 minutes when one of our biggest strengths is our depth.

Even from his post game interview the fact that he is stating that he is trying to get the guys "psychologically" ready on the playoffs just completely baffles me. When the goal should be to try to figure out how to win in every single situation. No clue why our guys are playing 40 minutes. Just cause there is an NBA unspoken rule where the starting line up plays majority of the time in the playoffs. Like the reason why that happens cause majority of the team is top heavy. The talent drop off from our 8 man line up is completely minimal. Even against the bucks, now this game where they have a chance to win.

You even see Dinwiddie when he attack on his drive in the third quarter was weak then he couldn't get back on defense cause of the lack of momentum we had on the game. JV is literally trying to shoot himself on the foot with that type of mindset. His defensive philosophy is complete garbage, has a mediocre offensive scheme, and doesn't know how to read the room when it comes to in-game atmosphere.

I've understand every Marks move (even the ben10 trade) but, this JV extension is completely dumb and this is the actual start of his demise.
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Re: GT: Nets @ Thunder || Tuesday 3/14/23 || 8:00 PM 

Post#79 » by 3pt_chucker » Wed Mar 15, 2023 9:30 pm

The way the Nets plays in the last 3-4 games (which were wins) felt unsustainable and a bit lucky and this game was that running out.

Hopefully this loss opens the eyes of the coaching staff and Dinwiddie that the 4thQ approach is just bad basketball. While I actually don't mind a slow it down offense on critical possessions, the way Din/this team goes about it is garbage. Adjustments has to be made but I doubt they will be. Really hope I'm wrong.

Lastly, JV's rotations are reaching Nick Nurse/Thibs level where we're running the starters into the ground. That makes sense on a team with no depth but depth is supposed to be a strength of this team!

I'll wait till the offseason to have a full evaluation of the coaching staff/FO but as of now the coaching staff is limiting this roster's potential which I'd be ok with except that the GM gave the HC an extension for absolutely no reason. SMH.
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Re: GT: Nets @ Thunder || Tuesday 3/14/23 || 8:00 PM 

Post#80 » by MrDollarBills » Wed Mar 15, 2023 9:54 pm

I also see no reason why Sumner and Thomas can't get minutes. Especially Sumner, whose speed is disruptive.

I'm not as down on Spencer as most of you are because this is who Spencer has always been. He's a good player but leaves a lot to be desired when you put too much responsibility on him.
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