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Knightro wrote:MasterGMer wrote:Then why are we praying for drafting the Thompson twins? They have no shooting either. I'd like to keep Fultz since he is the most efficient scorer on the team, period
He's not.
MasterGMer wrote:He shot over 55% last 5 games. How is he not the most efficient player? Also he averaged 16 ppg last 5 games
pagal wrote:eyriq wrote:Interesting that the board is split down the middle on FVV.
The more I think about it the more I love the idea. Veteran leader with championship experience. Former all-star with exactly the skill set we need from the lead guard. Great bill of health. After securing his future with a big pay day he'll likely accept his role as a third option with a primary focus to get the ball to Paolo and Franz.
Getting a prime all-star sounds nice but feels too disruptive to our build through the draft strategy. Sticking with Fultz sounds nice but he really needs to knock down shots and I think this ship has sailed.
Please don't. You all have such an exciting, likeable, young team. As someone who has watched him suck the life out of my beloved team, there's nothing more I want than for him to get the f outta here but I really do enjoy watching your team.
This guy is terrible and a locker room cancer.
DelAbbot wrote:pagal wrote:eyriq wrote:Interesting that the board is split down the middle on FVV.
The more I think about it the more I love the idea. Veteran leader with championship experience. Former all-star with exactly the skill set we need from the lead guard. Great bill of health. After securing his future with a big pay day he'll likely accept his role as a third option with a primary focus to get the ball to Paolo and Franz.
Getting a prime all-star sounds nice but feels too disruptive to our build through the draft strategy. Sticking with Fultz sounds nice but he really needs to knock down shots and I think this ship has sailed.
Please don't. You all have such an exciting, likeable, young team. As someone who has watched him suck the life out of my beloved team, there's nothing more I want than for him to get the f outta here but I really do enjoy watching your team.
This guy is terrible and a locker room cancer.
Please don't listen to this guy. Signing FVV will bring a lot and he's likely at a discount after his poor shooting 3pt season after his all-star campaign.
eyriq wrote:What are his locker room issues?pagal wrote:eyriq wrote:Interesting that the board is split down the middle on FVV.
The more I think about it the more I love the idea. Veteran leader with championship experience. Former all-star with exactly the skill set we need from the lead guard. Great bill of health. After securing his future with a big pay day he'll likely accept his role as a third option with a primary focus to get the ball to Paolo and Franz.
Getting a prime all-star sounds nice but feels too disruptive to our build through the draft strategy. Sticking with Fultz sounds nice but he really needs to knock down shots and I think this ship has sailed.
Please don't. You all have such an exciting, likeable, young team. As someone who has watched him suck the life out of my beloved team, there's nothing more I want than for him to get the f outta here but I really do enjoy watching your team.
This guy is terrible and a locker room cancer.
DiplomaticMagic wrote:I just dont see VanVleet being a good player much longer. I dont want him but if we did sign him, I hope it will be 2 years max.
When did Jameer Nelson start tailing off??
Knightro wrote:MasterGMer wrote:He shot over 55% last 5 games. How is he not the most efficient player? Also he averaged 16 ppg last 5 games
Because the season isn’t 5 games long?
MasterGMer wrote:Skybox wrote:byeganyo wrote:
im not a fan of Flltz and the most simple solution is to move him, but still it has to be said that in the past 2 months (25 games) he is scoring 14.7 points on above average TS - 59,60% for Fultz, 58,10% league wise. Is it sustainable - who knows? right now he is proving that he can be ok offensive player even without a 3pt shot.
His individual play is not bad...it's just the limiting effect on making the game easier for the rest of the team that is most people's concern. NO floor spacing from the PG position is not sustainable. Westbrook is again the best example...the guy can put up historic numbers but in today's high-scoring NBA, it's not enough if you're not contributing to your teammates' also getting easier scoring opportunities. Fultz never draws a double and doesn't even pull his own man through picks at the perimeter...he could be scoring 18ppg+ and I'd feel the same.
Then why are we praying for drafting the Thompson twins? They have no shooting either. I'd like to keep Fultz since he is the most efficient scorer on the team, period
pagal wrote:Knightro wrote:MasterGMer wrote:He shot over 55% last 5 games. How is he not the most efficient player? Also he averaged 16 ppg last 5 games
Because the season isn’t 5 games long?
He has shot terribly for a year and half, yet people disingenuously post his "career numbers" from when he was a mere contributor instead of the lead guard OR his last X games.
Knightro wrote:pagal wrote:Knightro wrote:
Because the season isn’t 5 games long?
He has shot terribly for a year and half, yet people disingenuously post his "career numbers" from when he was a mere contributor instead of the lead guard OR his last X games.
We’re talking about different people.
DelAbbot wrote:DiplomaticMagic wrote:I just dont see VanVleet being a good player much longer. I dont want him but if we did sign him, I hope it will be 2 years max.
When did Jameer Nelson start tailing off??
Come on, has Jameer Nelson ever had a FMVP vote? or All Defense team vote?
Knightro wrote:FVV tonight: 36 pts, 3 reb, 7 ast, 3 stl, 13-22 FG, 8-12 3PT, +21 in a 15-point win over Denver.
Fred's 10th game this season where he's made at least 5 threes.
Could you explain why?Rainwater wrote:I would rather draft a PF than pursue FVV. Good player but I don't just think he fits.
eyriq wrote:Interesting that the board is split down the middle on FVV.
The more I think about it the more I love the idea. Veteran leader with championship experience. Former all-star with exactly the skill set we need from the lead guard. Great bill of health. After securing his future with a big pay day he'll likely accept his role as a third option with a primary focus to get the ball to Paolo and Franz.
Getting a prime all-star sounds nice but feels too disruptive to our build through the draft strategy. Sticking with Fultz sounds nice but he really needs to knock down shots and I think this ship has sailed.