Wolveswin wrote:Baseline81 wrote:Wolveswin wrote:To Mavs: Gobert + 29 Mavs 1st (returned for now via Nets)
If Irving re-signs, they need D and will be desperate to make team successful around Doncic.
To Nets: THJ + Bertans
Nets move on from failed Simmons experiment while getting playable players.
To Wolves: Simmons + 24/26/28 Mavs 1sts (maybe swap or two)
Wolves get back most lost draft capital for Gobert. Simmons doesn’t replace quality players Wolves sent Ainge, but…
Simmons in Minnesota nice setting with Towns as his emotional support buddy might save his career. He can come off bench at PF behind Anderson and PG behind Conley. Maybe he can find his mojo and work into starter role. He is a bonus gamble, because…
Wolves put NBA GMs on notice, Conley expiring (plus other salary filler) + Mavs draft capital available for all-in trade TAKE TWO.
Folks on this forum need to let go of Simmons.
Simmons has a place in the NBA. He has played in the absolute two hardest settings (fan bases) in which to play. Places in which former players admit having PTSD like symptoms from the stress, anxiety and straight up abuse they endured. Simmons has played in situations he has been expected to be the 2nd or 3rd star (which he obviously isn’t) while those expectations crippled his mental fortitude. Simmons has proven both of those factors (and more) don’t make for a successful Ben Simmons.
Simmons will eventually land in a NBA soft spot. Indiana, San Antonio, or a Midwest town ready to coddle him back to the role player he is (and finally at some point on the role player contract he deserves).
With that said, trade scenario above, he is simply negative contract filler to offset any negative contract value Gobert has (real or otherwise). But as previously said, a pure flyer bonus in MN next to buddy Towns. Anything Wolves get from the overpaid role player is gravy. More gravy they get, the more tasty the move-on-from-Gobert trade scenario becomes.
I completely disagree with this rosy prediction about Simmons, and his problems go far beyond mental health issues. But even if you’re right, Tim Connelly has done nothing to demonstrate that he wants to be a win-later team, trading talent to collect picks.
This guy gets it
Wolveswin wrote:Any and all Towns trades needs to bring back a high quality starter. Starter should have contract control. Wolves mortgaged their future and can’t afford to trade 4+ years of Towns locked in for flight risk player(s).
Maybe Simmons could be traded with lots of picks to some completely rebuilding team like the Spurs, who could care less if Simmons $80 mil is completely unproductive, but I hope the Spurs organization wouldn’t saddle Pop with him in his final years.