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Re: KD to the Suns 

Post#541 » by sunskerr » Wed Mar 15, 2023 7:44 pm

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ehhhhh, i doubt it. an aging KD required 4 firsts and both twins and you expect that package to work for Markannen? He doesn't have that much lower value given his rising stock.


They were never going to trade him. He is their break out star. The type of player you could only hope to find in the draft. It's kind of crazy it took until his 6th year to really break out, and he wasn't highly valued by Chicago or Cleveland (and of course Minnesota traded him and LaVine for one season of Jimmy Butler).

They will pretty much build around him and hopefully find another star to pair with him. They have plenty of picks to work with. Lots of up and coming teams in the west. Will be interesting to see the WC battles in a few years between them, who were already tough and battled with us early when we were mostly healthy, OKC, who we only beat twice without Shai, Denver (still young), Memphis, NO, SAC, MIN as Ant keeps getting better, etc.


yeah, I don't know why we are still talking about Lauri as a "what-if". was never gonna happen.


Yeah. Nobody here would have given up Cam for Lauri when Lauri was averaging like 15 ppg on mediocre efficiency or whatever it was, which was the only time it would have been possible to get him.
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Re: KD to the Suns 

Post#542 » by ArksNetsSince99 » Wed Mar 15, 2023 8:22 pm

MrMiyagi wrote:Fact is, we had the opportunity to add to our team - that was surging - and instead we chose to overhaul our roster. It was too rash a decision by a dude with very little understanding of the organization.


For some reason is always happening with new owners

We did worst trade in a history with new owner Prokhorov for shadows of Pierce and Garnett

Then with Tsai acquiring KD , Kai but it’s hard to blame him for this one ( it was the right move at the time )

Now Suns new owner doing blockbuster deal ( this one is still TBD )
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Re: KD to the Suns 

Post#543 » by ArksNetsSince99 » Wed Mar 15, 2023 8:28 pm

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Saberestar wrote:James Jones talking about KD's ankle sprain:

Are you concerned at all because Durant has had a history of injures?

“No. Players that play and play a lot it get banged up, but it’s a sprained ankle. It’s the type of thing that if we’re in the playoffs, if the playoffs were to start today, he’d be out there. He’d be struggling a little bit. I’m always concerned for our players’ health when guys are hurt. I’ve been in that seat where you’re hurt. You’re always concerned about health, but anything long-term, severe, no, not (concerned) at all.”

Read on Twitter


I don't know that it is good news. That's when he tore his achilles, when he may have come back too early from another injury. I know Jones also has to say "No" when asked if he's concerned, but of course he's concerned. Any sane GM would be. The guy hasn't played in over half of his games since leaving GS, just came off an injury that kept him out 6 weeks, played 3 games and got injured again.


Suns GM said that ? WoW the guy is out of his mind then , it’s like saying , if the playoffs start today we would’ve be risking serious injury to our core player

KD might be injury prone but not taking a time to heal it’s the worst proposition
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Re: KD to the Suns 

Post#544 » by SunsRback4Good » Wed Mar 15, 2023 8:31 pm

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Saberestar wrote:James Jones talking about KD's ankle sprain:


Read on Twitter


I don't know that it is good news. That's when he tore his achilles, when he may have come back too early from another injury. I know Jones also has to say "No" when asked if he's concerned, but of course he's concerned. Any sane GM would be. The guy hasn't played in over half of his games since leaving GS, just came off an injury that kept him out 6 weeks, played 3 games and got injured again.


Suns GM said that ? WoW the guy is out of his mind then , it’s like saying , if the playoffs start today we would’ve be risking serious injury to our core player

KD might be injury prone but not taking a time to heal it’s the worst proposition


Please take KD back and give us Bridges and CamJ. This experiment did not last long as KD is made out of toilet paper.
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Re: KD to the Suns 

Post#545 » by ArksNetsSince99 » Wed Mar 15, 2023 8:41 pm

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Yeah, overcompensation is something that may not be clear, as you may not make an ankle injury worse, but your leg may be trying to adjust and put extra pressure somewhere else, which may have been already happening with him.


I think Brooklyn took more risks with his Achilles injury , most posters and experts were saying if he is 60-70% himself we will be lucky , truth is he was close to 100% maybe 95% post Achilles , after this he played **** 40+ minutes games for us and his Achilles hold up well but … Nets always took their time with his all others smaller injuries

He should rest as long as possible, you don’t need him for seedings, last 4-6 reg season games


Yeah, I wasn't talking Brooklyn, where I think they did a good job allowing his achilles to heal, but in the series he came back when playing for GS, his ankle had been injured and I remember reading some people were worried something really bad could happen coming back from that injury too early and then he tore his achilles.

I agree, seeding doesn't matter, though it would be good to avoid a play in game, where anything can happen in one game. And KD has higher probability of injury than most players so the fewer games you play him, the better and you cross your fingers he stays healthy in the playoffs and can play like he did two years ago and not last year.


I think I can suspect the way of Suns GM way of looking at this trade

He wasn’t afraid of anyone in the West even pre KD trade

Let’s get this straight , in East heavy favorite to make the finals is Bucks ( Celtics is poo poo this year, Sixers is frauds ), KD almost singlehanded beat Bucks in 21 season , toe away 3 pointer from eliminating Bucks ( without Kyrie with Harden like 10% and bunch of role players, bad role players in general) , so in his mind KD is what’s needed to beat the Bucks and as crazy as it sounds he might be right , but he needs healthy KD
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Re: KD to the Suns 

Post#546 » by bwgood77 » Wed Mar 15, 2023 8:42 pm

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I don't know that it is good news. That's when he tore his achilles, when he may have come back too early from another injury. I know Jones also has to say "No" when asked if he's concerned, but of course he's concerned. Any sane GM would be. The guy hasn't played in over half of his games since leaving GS, just came off an injury that kept him out 6 weeks, played 3 games and got injured again.


Suns GM said that ? WoW the guy is out of his mind then , it’s like saying , if the playoffs start today we would’ve be risking serious injury to our core player

KD might be injury prone but not taking a time to heal it’s the worst proposition


Please take KD back and give us Bridges and CamJ. This experiment did not last long as KD is made out of toilet paper.


You can even keep 1 first for your trouble.
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Re: KD to the Suns 

Post#547 » by ArksNetsSince99 » Wed Mar 15, 2023 8:45 pm

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Suns GM said that ? WoW the guy is out of his mind then , it’s like saying , if the playoffs start today we would’ve be risking serious injury to our core player

KD might be injury prone but not taking a time to heal it’s the worst proposition


Please take KD back and give us Bridges and CamJ. This experiment did not last long as KD is made out of toilet paper.


You can even keep 1 first for your trouble.


Bro but how ? Mikal is already my favorite Net and I think CamJ is solid too , knowing what I see now , I would’ve trade for them even without your firsts
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Re: KD to the Suns 

Post#548 » by ArksNetsSince99 » Wed Mar 15, 2023 8:51 pm

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Suns GM said that ? WoW the guy is out of his mind then , it’s like saying , if the playoffs start today we would’ve be risking serious injury to our core player

KD might be injury prone but not taking a time to heal it’s the worst proposition


Please take KD back and give us Bridges and CamJ. This experiment did not last long as KD is made out of toilet paper.


You can even keep 1 first for your trouble.


Guys don’t hate us , hate Kyrie , he is main cause for this trade , F#ck Kyrie and Mavs
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Post#549 » by SunsRback4Good » Wed Mar 15, 2023 9:35 pm

ArksNetsSince99 wrote:
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Please take KD back and give us Bridges and CamJ. This experiment did not last long as KD is made out of toilet paper.


You can even keep 1 first for your trouble.


Guys don’t hate us , hate Kyrie , he is main cause for this trade , F#ck Kyrie and Mavs


I do hate Kyrie without him acting out, KD would still be a Net. Kyrie asking for a trade started this domino effect.
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Post#550 » by Saberestar » Wed Mar 15, 2023 10:21 pm

Read on Twitter


It is from yesterday. Monty said that he is progressing.
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Re: KD to the Suns 

Post#551 » by bwgood77 » Wed Mar 15, 2023 10:36 pm

ArksNetsSince99 wrote:
bwgood77 wrote:
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Please take KD back and give us Bridges and CamJ. This experiment did not last long as KD is made out of toilet paper.


You can even keep 1 first for your trouble.


Bro but how ? Mikal is already my favorite Net and I think CamJ is solid too , knowing what I see now , I would’ve trade for them even without your firsts


Yeah, you guys made out very well. As you well know, new owners can be taken advantage of quite easily.
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Post#552 » by lilfishi22 » Wed Mar 15, 2023 10:43 pm

MrMiyagi wrote:Fact is, we had the opportunity to add to our team - that was surging - and instead we chose to overhaul our roster. It was too rash a decision by a dude with very little understanding of the organization.

We were surging for about a month, in the regular season. Adding more would've bolstered the rotation for if/when CP3 gets injured or Payne isn't playing well but it still ultimately starts and ends with who your stars are in the playoffs. CP3 is arguably only as good as the injured CP3 in the LA series two seasons ago. Payne once again is inconsistent. DA hasn't proven to be able to step up and sustain that step up. Mikal was playing really well and has been able to step up again with the Nets but I still don't think I would've felt great going into the playoffs with him as our 2nd best player. CamJo was unreliable regardless of how much I enjoyed him on the team and Booker is awesome but I still have issues with him being the go-to option for this Suns team.

The trade we made imo didn't overhaul the roster. We moved on from one player basically, and you could argue that player was Cam who we couldn't agree to an extension with last summer. So picks plus Mikal for KD is a massive risk, there's no doubt about it but I and the wider NBA media believe it has raised our chances significantly in the playoffs from the iteration of the team before. If the goal of any trade is to get better and get closer to a title, then I think this trade has all the hallmarks of that

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Re: KD to the Suns 

Post#553 » by bullsaficianado » Thu Mar 16, 2023 12:42 am

Saberestar wrote:
Read on Twitter


It is from yesterday. Monty said that he is progressing.


You can tell there he is frustrated that happened to him and he can't play right now. It was a freak injury I doubt it ever happens again to him during pregame warmups. He is walking on it so I would say in two weeks or so he should be close to returning. He could probably play sooner but Suns will likely be extra cautious.
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Re: KD to the Suns 

Post#554 » by lilfishi22 » Thu Mar 16, 2023 12:53 am

This entire season feels like it's just holding on until so and so players can return from injury....this is just more of the same.
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Post#555 » by garrick » Thu Mar 16, 2023 1:56 am

MrMiyagi wrote:Fact is, we had the opportunity to add to our team - that was surging - and instead we chose to overhaul our roster. It was too rash a decision by a dude with very little understanding of the organization.

Impatient and with too big of an ego to defer to seasoned basketball execs which was the exact opposite of what he stated he would do when he was going to do in the first 6 months of ownership.

Typical C suite exec that says one thing and then does the opposite & leading by ego and arrogance. Reminds me a bit of Sarver except Sarver was not as wealthy so he was trying to save costs as much as possible.
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Post#556 » by Bogyo » Thu Mar 16, 2023 6:07 am

lilfishi22 wrote:This entire season feels like it's just holding on until so and so players can return from injury....this is just more of the same.


You'd better get used to it 'fish, cuz we gonna be groundhogdaying through like this the next 2-3 seasons for sure.
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Re: KD to the Suns 

Post#557 » by Saberestar » Thu Mar 16, 2023 7:48 am

garrick wrote:
MrMiyagi wrote:Fact is, we had the opportunity to add to our team - that was surging - and instead we chose to overhaul our roster. It was too rash a decision by a dude with very little understanding of the organization.

Impatient and with too big of an ego to defer to seasoned basketball execs which was the exact opposite of what he stated he would do when he was going to do in the first 6 months of ownership.

Typical C suite exec that says one thing and then does the opposite & leading by ego and arrogance. Reminds me a bit of Sarver except Sarver was not as wealthy so he was trying to save costs as much as possible.

James Jones was trying to get KD since last summer, Ishbia just gave him everything in his power to make it happen.

Adding Crowder to the trade was the critical part of it because we wanted to trade him on another deal to get more depth but at the end of the day a role player can't stop you from getting a player as amazing as KD, so IMO it was a great move by Ishbia.
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Re: KD to the Suns 

Post#558 » by lilfishi22 » Thu Mar 16, 2023 9:07 am

Bogyo wrote:
lilfishi22 wrote:This entire season feels like it's just holding on until so and so players can return from injury....this is just more of the same.


You'd better get used to it 'fish, cuz we gonna be groundhogdaying through like this the next 2-3 seasons for sure.

I'm prepared
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Re: KD to the Suns 

Post#559 » by Saberestar » Thu Mar 16, 2023 12:50 pm



I didn't see this posted.

This guy is David J. Chao, who was was the head team physician for the San Diego Chargers for 17 years.

He is a board-certified Orthopaedic
Surgeon with a Subspecialty Certification in Sports Medicine.

He nails basically every injury and time needed for the athlete to comeback at full strength.

KD possibly is ready to go in a week, but we are gonna be extremely cautious giving him another extra week.
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Re: KD to the Suns 

Post#560 » by sunsbg » Thu Mar 16, 2023 1:33 pm

I guess Suns results in next few games will have effect on whether KD comes back after the two weeks estimation. Lose one or both of next two and Suns are in danger of falling to the play in range. If the team wins some games they may give him extra time though more games to build chemistry is obviously important too.

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