Chauncey Needs to Go!

m0ng0 · Post #41 » by **m0ng0** » Tue Jan 31, 2023 5:56 pm

One could argue during the month of January Dame said f*ck these guys I am tired of carrying them every night (some of which Dame vouched for "Grant and Nurk and Billups", I'm just going to get mine? Show the league he is not done and willing to take his services to south Beach or wherever that might be? They went 6-9 with Dame blazing...

Wizenheimer · Post #42 » by **Wizenheimer** » Tue Jan 31, 2023 7:58 pm

m0ng0 wrote:One could argue during the month of January Dame said f*ck these guys I am tired of carrying them every night (some of which Dame vouched for "Grant and Nurk and Billups", I'm just going to get mine? Show the league he is not done and willing to take his services to south Beach or wherever that might be? They went 6-9 with Dame blazing...

he can't be traded till July, and it's almost certain he won't ask to be traded, and if he doesn't ask, he won't be

one can argue that Dame is doing what he's always done and that's work his hardest to carry a mediocre team into the playoffs while hoping his teammates pick up the slack.

Norm2953 · Post #43 » by **Norm2953** » Wed Feb 1, 2023 3:48 am

It'll be interesting to see who get hired to coach Portland after Chauncey.

It'll need to be an offensive minded coach ala Stotts for if they bring Grant back, it'll have to be a
coach who is comfortable with a team that has to score a lot of points to win consistently.

I do think for Portland to succeed, they will need to let Dame/Grant be the top scorers every might
which means less touches for Ant, for they need a third guy that plays defense, rebounds and does all
the little things that help Dame/Grant score tons of points.

Myth · Post #44 » by **Myth** » Thu Feb 2, 2023 3:21 pm

My vote is for Quinn Snyder

Case2012 · Post #45 » by **Case2012** » Fri Feb 3, 2023 5:51 pm

Snyder would be great but i thought he retired because he was just burned out. He aged pretty dramatically.

I’ll take Udoka. Yeah, he had an inappropriate relationship with a woman but that’s still a majorrrrr upgrade from Billups and what he was accused of doing. Would Portland do that after the grief over Billups? No, probably not but he’s the best available and he’s from Portland.

Myth · Post #46 » by **Myth** » Fri Feb 3, 2023 7:05 pm

Case2012 wrote:Snyder would be great but i thought he retired because he was just burned out. He aged pretty dramatically.

I’ll take Udoka. Yeah, he had an inappropriate relationship with a woman but that’s still a majorrrrr upgrade from Billups and what he was accused of doing. Would Portland do that after the grief over Billups? No, probably not but he’s the best available and he’s from Portland.

I'm banking on Snyder being burnt out of the Mitchell/Gobert drama, but open to a team that has healthy player dynamics.

Goldbum · Post #47 » by **Goldbum** » Fri Feb 3, 2023 7:09 pm

Snyder would be a home run and I'm not nearly as down on Billups as some are.

BNM · Post #48 » by **BNM** » Fri Feb 3, 2023 9:03 pm

I'd be over the moon if we fired Chauncey and hired Snyder. I'd also be down with Frank Vogel.

Without a change in coaching, any trades we make will be a case or rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic.

The Chauncey hire was STUPID. You don't hire someone with ZERO head coaching experience at any level to coach an NBA team with an aging superstar - and then give him a 5-year guaranteed contract.

This is a veteran team that is trying to win as many games as possible and go as far in the playoffs as the talent will allow. Get a PROVEN head coach that can get the most out of this roster. That is NOT Chauncey Billups.

Case2012 · Post #49 » by **Case2012** » Fri Feb 3, 2023 10:59 pm

BNM wrote:I'd be over the moon if we fired Chauncey and hired Snyder. I'd also be down with Frank Vogel.

Without a change in coaching, any trades we make will be a case or rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic.

The Chauncey hire was STUPID. You don't hire someone with ZERO head coaching experience at any level to coach an NBA team with an aging superstar - and then give him a 5-year guaranteed contract.

This is a veteran team that is trying to win as many games as possible and go as far in the playoffs as the talent will allow. Get a PROVEN head coach that can get the most out of this roster. That is NOT Chauncey Billups.

It’s almost as if Neil protected those picks and gave CB that deal to intentionally **** Portland. Why? Who knows, but it feeeeellllssss that way.

monopoman · Post #50 » by **monopoman** » Sat Feb 4, 2023 8:36 am

BNM wrote:I'd be over the moon if we fired Chauncey and hired Snyder. I'd also be down with Frank Vogel.

Without a change in coaching, any trades we make will be a case or rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic.

The Chauncey hire was STUPID. You don't hire someone with ZERO head coaching experience at any level to coach an NBA team with an aging superstar - and then give him a 5-year guaranteed contract.

This is a veteran team that is trying to win as many games as possible and go as far in the playoffs as the talent will allow. Get a PROVEN head coach that can get the most out of this roster. That is NOT Chauncey Billups.

To be fair we have seen other teams pull the same move and some were successful. Kerr had 0 head coaching experience before he went to GSW that worked out, we saw the Nets hire Nash who had 0 head coaching experience and that didn't.

This notion that only trash teams go after head coaches with 0 experience is not really accurate.

Village Idiot · Post #51 » by **Village Idiot** » Wed Mar 15, 2023 8:26 am

The case for canning Chauncey just keeps getting stronger. Fire him already. Bring in Ime before somebody else does

red_power · Post #52 » by **red_power** » Wed Mar 15, 2023 10:52 am

BNM wrote:The Chauncey hire was STUPID. You don't hire someone with ZERO head coaching experience at any level to coach an NBA team with an aging superstar - and then give him a 5-year guaranteed contract.

Yeah but remember who hired him in the first place. I think that 5-year deal was just the last f*cked up move made by Olshey. Dude has simply written a blank paycheck to another buddy he got during his LAC days.

red_power · Post #53 » by **red_power** » Wed Mar 15, 2023 10:57 am

Anyway there is no reason to think anyone will hurry to fire Chauncey before the end of game 82. Yeah, this team is a complete mess on the court but at least this is not a "jail-blazers" type of mess beyond it.

Dude's going to finish the season running this sh*t show and then we'll see.

zzaj · Post #54 » by **zzaj** » Wed Mar 15, 2023 3:57 pm

red_power wrote:Anyway there is no reason to think anyone will hurry to fire Chauncey before the end of game 82. Yeah, this team is a complete mess on the court but at least this is not a "jail-blazers" type of mess beyond it.

Dude's going to finish this season running this sh*t show and then we'll see.

Yeah, there's not really a reason to fire Chauncey with so few games to go. Let's keep our fingers crossed for Vogel in the off-season...

HoopsFanAZ · Post #55 » by **HoopsFanAZ** » Wed Mar 15, 2023 4:42 pm

The locker room has not been lost.
Players aren’t checking out on him. If/when that happens, the contract years remaining are irrelevant — Dame and Cronin are on the same page. Billups is right there, too.

Last year is a mulligan for wins and losses. Great that other guys (Ant) got to work on their games. This year is a mulligan in that the process was THE goal on court — not wins and losses, not playoffs or not. I’m sticking with what was said at the beginning of the season, and if Billups has the room, he gets another year IF the BIG trade happens.

1 Lottery pick. 2 Knicks pick to Chicago. 3 Big trade. 4 Grant re-ups. 5 Who’s traded? (Ant and Nurk. PICKS. Nas?)
Can Sharpe be kept? If Sharpe is gone, then the incoming player is a serious #2 on a contender … 1A? Hope.

If a really good coach was available, all bets are off. But it’s the roster. That Ant and Dame — after 1 season — starting together looks like that’s all it should be (I know it’s just one year). But Shaedon is the more than obvious heir apparent.

BNM · Post #56 » by **BNM** » Wed Mar 15, 2023 6:49 pm

red_power wrote:Anyway there is no reason to think anyone will hurry to fire Chauncey before the end of game 82. Yeah, this team is a complete mess on the court but at least this is not a "jail-blazers" type of mess beyond it.

Dude's going to finish the season running this sh*t show and then we'll see.

I started this thread a month and a half ago, when the team wasn't intentionally tanking and POR was only 2 games out of the 5th seed (and only 3 games out of having HCA) - in spite of Chauncey's ineptitude.

At that time, there was an outstanding coach with actual proven NBA experience available that could have potentially helped vault this team up in the standings into the 4 - 6 seed range. So, instead of firing Chauncey, hiring Quin Snyder and not pissing away the best season of Dame's career, we now have 17 blown double-digit leads (Thanks Chauncey).

So, yeah now that trying to make the playoffs is pointless and Snyder is off the board, there is no reason to fire Chauncey before the end of the regular season. If there is one thing he's proven he's good at, it's making sure this team underachieves and loses games they should win.

Still, his insistence on playing Reddish, Thybulle and Little over Sharpe is infuriating. Those guys have all been in the league long enough that we know who they are. If the goal is to lose anyway, it's time to give our prize lottery pick 36 MPG. Because I have noticed no improvement in Shaedon's game since opening night, I went back and checked the season splits. Yep, my eye test was correct. Shaedon is exactly the same player he was in October. In fact, statistically, October was his best month (by a hair over February and March).

Yet, he's still averaging less than 20 MPG on a team that is clearly tanking, while Reddish and Thybulle are averaging 30 MPG. I actually like Thybulle as a role player, but we already knew who he was. If the core of our team going foward is Dame, Ant and Shaedon, why the hell isn't Chaucey starting them together and getting Shaedon as much in-game experience as possible???

OK, fire him now and promote Roy Rogers or Scottie Brooks to interim head coach, PLAY SHAEDON 36 MPG and go after the best coach available come the off season.

DusterBuster · Post #57 » by **DusterBuster** » Thu Mar 16, 2023 2:11 am

Found Lillards comments about the teams struggles interesting. Flat out said the team doesn’t know what to do when opponents make adjustments in the second half and that’s why they’re losing leads.

For as much as people ragged on Stotts defensive switching, at least it was a strategy and the team did make adjustments in games. Chauncey seems entirely lost on that concept and isn’t even bothering to try other things.

He should absolutely be fired this summer, but happy to let him finish out the season as the Blazers tank commander. Mike Malone is another HC I’d look at if he shakes loose.

BNM · Post #58 » by **BNM** » Thu Mar 16, 2023 5:50 pm

DusterBuster wrote:Found Lillards comments about the teams struggles interesting. Flat out said the team doesn’t know what to do when opponents make adjustments in the second half and that’s why they’re losing leads.

For as much as people ragged on Stotts defensive switching, at least it was a strategy and the team did make adjustments in games. Chauncey seems entirely lost on that concept and isn’t even bothering to try other things.

He should absolutely be fired this summer, but happy to let him finish out the season as the Blazers tank commander. Mike Malone is another HC I’d look at if he shakes loose.

Yep, POR was consistently one of the best 4th quarter and clutch time teams in the league under Stotts. Now they are the worst. They are currently ranked 7th in the league (top 5 until a couple games ago) in offensive efficiency and have one player averaging over 30 PTS/G and two more averaging over 20 PTS/G, yet they cannot score in the 4th quarter.

They have enough offensive talent to consistently build double digit leads, but lack the coaching to hold onto those leads. Their ineptitude on offense in the 4th quarter is all on Chauncey's inability to counter adjustments made by their opponents. He's getting outcoached on a nightly basis.

TLDR: Chauncey is a horrible coach who should have never been given a job as an NBA head coach. Stotts, in spite of his shortcomings, was WAY better than Chauncey, Several other better candidates have come and gone since Stotts was fired, yet Joe and Jody chose to hitch their wagon to this chump.

Napoleon7 · Post #59 » by **Napoleon7** » Thu Mar 16, 2023 8:34 pm

More than wins and losses … my frustration with Chauncey is his insistence of using Sharpe so little. When Ant went down Sharpe should have received all of his minutes, whether starting or not. Then giving Sharpe just 7 minutes the other night was the final straw for me…I’m officially in the change coach camp, albeit let’s wait until seasons end.

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BNM · Post #60 » by **BNM** » Thu Mar 16, 2023 9:42 pm

Napoleon7 wrote:More than wins and losses … my frustration with Chauncey is his insistence of using Sharpe so little. When Ant went down Sharpe should have received all of his minutes, whether starting or not. Then giving Sharpe just 7 minutes the other night was the final straw for me…I’m officially in the change coach camp, albeit let’s wait until seasons end.

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Chauncey is neither a "win now", nor a "develop the young guys" coach. Why, exactly, was he hired???