Lonzo Ball Recovery thread update p91 - Back to 5 on 5: No Setbacks

[Diop]

You think Lonzo wants that? What team will sign him after that? Teams will want to see him on the court before giving him another chance. He can't just post social media rehab videos and expect another NBA contract.

How is that different in the scenario where he stays with the Bulls?

If the Bulls keep him, he's going to have an arduous recovery from an unknown surgery, and then he'll have to try to get on the court and show the Bulls he can still play and be healthy. Then he'll have to go get a new contract with those questions and that history still hanging over his head.

If the Bulls waive him, he's going to have an arduous recovery from an unknown surgery, and then he'll have to try to get on the court and show the some other team he can still play and be healthy. He'll probably be doing this on a 1 year deal where he's making money on top of what the Bulls were paying out to him. If he makes it through a season healthy, Then he'll have to go get a new contract with those questions and that history still hanging over his head.

The difference is for the Bulls. It's not in their interest to spend another year in limbo, hoping that a somewhat experimental and nebulous non-FDA approved medical treatment is going to miraculously cure him.

But wasn't the argument whether he had a choice or not? I don't think they'll do it either and if a third surgery is considered a potential fix i don't think the NBA doctors will grant it anyway.

I guess the issue is whether the third surgery is considered likely to succeed. If it's the Kobe Bryant Germany-based thing, though, it seems pretty unlikely that it's anything but an extreme long shot. From a legal perspective, I don't even know that the NBA doctors could say it's a valid treatment option since it's not FDA approved.

What team is going to give him a one year deal to rehab and prove himself? I don't see anyone doing that.

Charlotte.

They sign lilangelo just to play g league

[umfan83]

Sorry if this is a repost, I didn't see anything on the last 2 pages

[Dan Z]

How is that different in the scenario where he stays with the Bulls?

If the Bulls keep him, he's going to have an arduous recovery from an unknown surgery, and then he'll have to try to get on the court and show the Bulls he can still play and be healthy. Then he'll have to go get a new contract with those questions and that history still hanging over his head.

If the Bulls waive him, he's going to have an arduous recovery from an unknown surgery, and then he'll have to try to get on the court and show the some other team he can still play and be healthy. He'll probably be doing this on a 1 year deal where he's making money on top of what the Bulls were paying out to him. If he makes it through a season healthy, Then he'll have to go get a new contract with those questions and that history still hanging over his head.

The difference is for the Bulls. It's not in their interest to spend another year in limbo, hoping that a somewhat experimental and nebulous non-FDA approved medical treatment is going to miraculously cure him.



I guess the issue is whether the third surgery is considered likely to succeed. If it's the Kobe Bryant Germany-based thing, though, it seems pretty unlikely that it's anything but an extreme long shot. From a legal perspective, I don't even know that the NBA doctors could say it's a valid treatment option since it's not FDA approved.

What team is going to give him a one year deal to rehab and prove himself? I don't see anyone doing that.

Charlotte.

They sign lilangelo just to play g league

I don't see it happening, but you know your team better than I do.

[Michael Jackson]

How is that different in the scenario where he stays with the Bulls?

If the Bulls keep him, he's going to have an arduous recovery from an unknown surgery, and then he'll have to try to get on the court and show the Bulls he can still play and be healthy. Then he'll have to go get a new contract with those questions and that history still hanging over his head.

If the Bulls waive him, he's going to have an arduous recovery from an unknown surgery, and then he'll have to try to get on the court and show the some other team he can still play and be healthy. He'll probably be doing this on a 1 year deal where he's making money on top of what the Bulls were paying out to him. If he makes it through a season healthy, Then he'll have to go get a new contract with those questions and that history still hanging over his head.

The difference is for the Bulls. It's not in their interest to spend another year in limbo, hoping that a somewhat experimental and nebulous non-FDA approved medical treatment is going to miraculously cure him.



I guess the issue is whether the third surgery is considered likely to succeed. If it's the Kobe Bryant Germany-based thing, though, it seems pretty unlikely that it's anything but an extreme long shot. From a legal perspective, I don't even know that the NBA doctors could say it's a valid treatment option since it's not FDA approved.

What team is going to give him a one year deal to rehab and prove himself? I don't see anyone doing that.

Charlotte.

They sign lilangelo just to play g league

[JimmyButler21]

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[Bulliever2020]

what an absolute nightmare

[jmajew]

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This is the worst contract ever....

[biggestbullsfan]

Lol it’s just comedy at how bad this is. I feel bad for him, he might have to retire because of this smh.

[ChettheJet]

So you know and you move forward with that information. I think the Bulls join Lonzo in a lawsuit against the surgeons who performed the first two operations because they sure didn't do an even competent job.

I'll make an unsubstantiated opinion on what will happen down the road. Let's say Lonzo comes back healthy and strong for the 2024-25 season and plays like everyone expects. He could be an UFA but appreciates that the Bulls stood by him while he missed 2.5 years on his contract, he shows himself to be a class act and signs a small one year deal since he got paid about $$0M for not playing and then signs a long term deal with the Bulls. Or not.

[FriedRise]

Why would he have to miss most of NEXT season already? Is this their way of saying, "we doubt this is gonna make a difference, but what else are we gonna do?"

I assume the doctors have little to no confidence that the surgery will fix anything.

Let's call up Charlotte and get Lonzo there so LaVar can finally have three of his kids on the same team. I'll take a bad contract at this point.

[Jcool0]

Will he be a FA before he ever plays again?

[FriedRise]

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[Midway Bully]

So what's so different about this procedure from the other two? Why is there optimism on both sides?

[umfan83]

If he does eventually come back and is able to play, it would be nice if he could give us a bit of a discount on his next contract - if we even want to bring him back.

[Jcool0]

So what's so different about this procedure from the other two? Why is there optimism on both sides?

[jordanwilliams6]

Can we get his contract off the roster? I don’t even care if it doesn’t give us any extra cap room, I’d just like him off the team for my future sanity.

[Evil_Headband]

At least this will force AKME to plan for Lonzo not to be back.

[Taj FTW]

So do they use the stretch provision, or is his contract valuable to have as an expiring in a deal?

[umfan83]

Can we get his contract off the roster? I don’t even care if it doesn’t give us any extra cap room, I’d just like him off the team for my future sanity.

Doubt it unless he retires due to medical issues a la Brandon Roy. They can get a waiver for his injury this year and next year I believe, but he'd still technically be under contract. They could waive him and that would remove him from the roster, but his contract would still be on the books.

No need to lose sanity about it. There's no going into next year hoping for a Lonzo return. The fans will know it, the FO will know it and should operate as if he's not on the roster anymore. All parties should act like you won't see him on the court for the Bulls again, even if there's a chance he returns for the final year of his deal in 24-25.

[umfan83]

At least this will force AKME to plan for Lonzo not to be back.

Nope, they will cling onto the "most" part of "most if not all", and will look for a 1 year stopgap. That's just the luck we have with these things. Of course its not luck as much as it is competency but that's a different discussion.