Moderators: bwgood77, lilfishi22, Qwigglez
lilfishi22 wrote:schnakenpopanz wrote:It is not Crowders Fault. It is mismanagement.
Crowder was straight up being unprofessional. You're telling me Cam didn't deserve to be a starter?
schnakenpopanz wrote:lilfishi22 wrote:schnakenpopanz wrote:It is not Crowders Fault. It is mismanagement.
Crowder was straight up being unprofessional. You're telling me Cam didn't deserve to be a starter?
No quite the opposite. If a player is unprofessional there is no need to let this situation go this far.
Trade him asap.
schnakenpopanz wrote:lilfishi22 wrote:schnakenpopanz wrote:It is not Crowders Fault. It is mismanagement.
Crowder was straight up being unprofessional. You're telling me Cam didn't deserve to be a starter?
No quite the opposite. If a player is unprofessional there is no need to let this situation go this far.
Trade him asap.
garrick wrote:schnakenpopanz wrote:lilfishi22 wrote:Crowder was straight up being unprofessional. You're telling me Cam didn't deserve to be a starter?
No quite the opposite. If a player is unprofessional there is no need to let this situation go this far.
Trade him asap.
Suns were shopping Crowder but it was already too late in the season to get a good deal for him and him sitting out put out a lot of red flags to other teams.
The nets didn't even want him either as they dumped him for a couple 2nd round picks. We probably should have traded Crowder for the despicable Grayson Allen as rumored but JJ probably thought we could get a better player for him and sat on the trade.
lilfishi22 wrote:garrick wrote:schnakenpopanz wrote:No quite the opposite. If a player is unprofessional there is no need to let this situation go this far.
Trade him asap.
Suns were shopping Crowder but it was already too late in the season to get a good deal for him and him sitting out put out a lot of red flags to other teams.
The nets didn't even want him either as they dumped him for a couple 2nd round picks. We probably should have traded Crowder for the despicable Grayson Allen as rumored but JJ probably thought we could get a better player for him and sat on the trade.
Pretty sure the Nets wanted him included because they wanted an extra asset they could offload for more assets. It was a good move on their end
lonea wrote:Phystic wrote:lonea wrote:
He played like sht. A 1st overall draft pick can't help a contending team win a game is USELESS.
At this point he's as good as James wiseman.
WTF cares how much points he's averaging if the team isn't winning the championship.
And NO, lack of intensity, drive, will defines a player. He lacks all of those.
Sorry but this is a straight up idiotic way to think.
Guess Booker is useless too then. CP3? Pile of garbage. Lillard? Luka? Morant? Tatum? All USELESS.
Except none of them are #1 overall pick, who let me quote
"I WANNA GET PAID LIKE MY PEERS"
You are too emotional attached to mr softy ayton.
Phystic wrote:lonea wrote:Phystic wrote:
Sorry but this is a straight up idiotic way to think.
Guess Booker is useless too then. CP3? Pile of garbage. Lillard? Luka? Morant? Tatum? All USELESS.
Except none of them are #1 overall pick, who let me quote
"I WANNA GET PAID LIKE MY PEERS"
You are too emotional attached to mr softy ayton.
Yes between me and you, I'm the emotional one here.
You're too angry over missing the boat on Luka that you're blindly hating.
The fact that you're actually hating on someone for advocating for the most money they can is hilarious. How dare someone want to maximize their opportunities.
Again, the fact that you think Mitchell Robinson is the answer says enough.
Last time I'll respond to you, because you're providing no substance
bwgood77 wrote:lonea wrote:bwgood77 wrote:
He wasn't a good #1 pick, but he doesn't suck. That draft was thought of as loaded with Cs and the rest of them pretty much sucked, as did Bagley.
Though I knew what type of player he is, so the way he plays doesn't surprise me a lot and I try and look more at the positives. I focused on the negatives as a rookie, though there were more of them. Even if he has regressed on defense he still is a lot better than he was then.
So tell me, what role is ayton playing in the current suns team?
He's not specially good offensively, nor is he specially good defensively.
At this point he's just playing some starter filler role who don't contribute much other than fill his stats for some ayton lovers on here that brag about his stats. There are far better way to spend $30M+ next year than on ayton.
He is above avg offensively, defensively, rebounding, etc.
Heck, the best NBA writer/analyst out there who spends a lot of time watching ALL teams called him a good 2 way C in his article last Friday.
There may be better ways to spend $30 million but it's not like you can necessarily just find two pieces that make up that $30 million and trade him for them. You'd be lucky to find them on the same team and if we just traded him into some team's cap space for nothing it's not like we'd have $30 million to spend because we would still be over the cap.