Re: 2023 Draft Prospect discussion Part II

[REJECTEDBYCLARK]

I'd recommend ya'll tune into Uconn vs. Iona if you want to see a super intense game. Might even be more intense than the final four games.

[Psubs]

Ya I called BS on George, Smith Jr. and Terquavion a while ago.

If you want a losing brand of heroball gameplay you can pick your poison.

George is the best prospect out of all of them but if he doesn't fix his shooting he'll be out of the NBA fast. If he improves his shot selection and overall shooting efficiency then I can see him being a quality starter but there's a lot that needs to happen for him to get there and I don't feel he has any special qualities as a player. There's also a good chance if he becomes a good shooter he'll be a guy that loses you games with boneheaded turnovers.

Terquavion last year yes, he's a chucker and still a chucker but he's gotten stronger and more of a playmaker this year. Leave all the SG's alone.

Terquavion reminds me of Rafer Alston for some reason

I think more like RJ Hampton.

[DreamTeam09]

Ya I called BS on George, Smith Jr. and Terquavion a while ago.

If you want a losing brand of heroball gameplay you can pick your poison.

George is the best prospect out of all of them but if he doesn't fix his shooting he'll be out of the NBA fast. If he improves his shot selection and overall shooting efficiency then I can see him being a quality starter but there's a lot that needs to happen for him to get there and I don't feel he has any special qualities as a player. There's also a good chance if he becomes a good shooter he'll be a guy that loses you games with boneheaded turnovers.

Terquavion last year yes, he's a chucker and still a chucker but he's gotten stronger and more of a playmaker this year. Leave all the SG's alone.

Not you, but the person you quoted is all over the place. But these guys who are misacted as go to guys for their programs won't be go to guys in the NBA, but that shouldn't diminish their overall talent level because of it. I don't think he's giving that any credence at all.

[Psubs]

I'd recommend ya'll tune into Uconn vs. Iona if you want to see a super intense game. Might even be more intense than the final four games.

Walter Clayton Jr shoots 95% FT's.

Watch on YouTube

[Psubs]

Ya I called BS on George, Smith Jr. and Terquavion a while ago.

If you want a losing brand of heroball gameplay you can pick your poison.

George is the best prospect out of all of them but if he doesn't fix his shooting he'll be out of the NBA fast. If he improves his shot selection and overall shooting efficiency then I can see him being a quality starter but there's a lot that needs to happen for him to get there and I don't feel he has any special qualities as a player. There's also a good chance if he becomes a good shooter he'll be a guy that loses you games with boneheaded turnovers.

Terquavion last year yes, he's a chucker and still a chucker but he's gotten stronger and more of a playmaker this year. Leave all the SG's alone.

Not you, but the person you quoted is all over the place. But these guys who are misacted as go to guys for their programs won't be go to guys in the NBA, but that shouldn't diminish their overall talent level because of it. I don't think he's giving that any credence at all.

That's true, they may have a roll, but I'd rather give the MLE to Donte DiVincenzo. His A/T is like 2. If you can't picture a pick to be better than Donte, then no need to draft them.

[REJECTEDBYCLARK]

Ya I called BS on George, Smith Jr. and Terquavion a while ago.

If you want a losing brand of heroball gameplay you can pick your poison.

George is the best prospect out of all of them but if he doesn't fix his shooting he'll be out of the NBA fast. If he improves his shot selection and overall shooting efficiency then I can see him being a quality starter but there's a lot that needs to happen for him to get there and I don't feel he has any special qualities as a player. There's also a good chance if he becomes a good shooter he'll be a guy that loses you games with boneheaded turnovers.

Terquavion last year yes, he's a chucker and still a chucker but he's gotten stronger and more of a playmaker this year. Leave all the SG's alone.

Not you, but the person you quoted is all over the place. But these guys who are misacted as go to guys for their programs won't be go to guys in the NBA, but that shouldn't diminish their overall talent level because of it. I don't think he's giving that any credence at all.

How about instead of indirectly taking a shot at me you post your opinion on each player, explain how I'm "all over the place" and contribute to the discussion on these players. I've already explained in great detail the issues with players like George, Smith Jr. and T. Smith a number of times. What does "misacted as go to guys" mean?

Smith Jr. got BENCHED by his coach yesterday because he couldn't risk blowing his team's chance to win a tournament game due to Smith's poor play. Terquavion is a massive inefficient chucker. What am I not giving credence to? The goal is to find players who know how to win games and to win you need to be smart and efficient in as many facets of the game as possible.

[DreamTeam09]

Terquavion last year yes, he's a chucker and still a chucker but he's gotten stronger and more of a playmaker this year. Leave all the SG's alone.

Not you, but the person you quoted is all over the place. But these guys who are misacted as go to guys for their programs won't be go to guys in the NBA, but that shouldn't diminish their overall talent level because of it. I don't think he's giving that any credence at all.

How about instead of indirectly taking a shot at me you post your opinion on each player, explain how I'm "all over the place" and contribute to the discussion on these players. I've already explained in great detail the issues with players like George, Smith Jr. and T. Smith a number of times. What does "misacted as go to guys" mean?

Smith Jr. got BENCHED by his coach yesterday because he couldn't risk blowing his team's chance to win a tournament game due to Smith's poor play. Terquavion is a massive inefficient chucker. What am I not giving credence to? The goal is to find players who know how to win games and to win you need to be smart and efficient in as many facets of the game as possible.

It's noteven that I disagree with you on those guys, except George, I can see the path fwd for him to become good. But you come across as steadfast & unwavering in your opinion, inefficiency is something that should be expected or at least taken into account tho. These are young guys asked to lead programs going up against Jrs & Srs. On the flipside, efficient college players don't automatically become efficient NBAers as well, especially bigs. Wasn't trying to take a shot, mabad if you felt that way.

[BoyzNTheHood]

I'd recommend ya'll tune into Uconn vs. Iona if you want to see a super intense game. Might even be more intense than the final four games.

Walter Clayton Jr shoots 95% FT's.

Watch on YouTube

He’s a first round pick value wise, and I’ll stand on that claim to the end.

[DreamTeam09]

I'd recommend ya'll tune into Uconn vs. Iona if you want to see a super intense game. Might even be more intense than the final four games.

Walter Clayton Jr shoots 95% FT's.

Watch on YouTube

He’s a first round pick value wise, and I’ll stand on that claim to the end.

Nothing spectacular, but that's probably a feature to his game. Just very steady and knows exactly what he's doing out there. Seems like he has a tight handle too, he utilizes the crab dribble to keep his dribble alive and prone into tight spaces in order to hit the open wings. You don't see a lot of players utilize the crab dribble a lot anymore, good for him.

[REJECTEDBYCLARK]

Yeah when I went through the Iona Uconn game Clayton's 95% ft shooting on the volume he shoots stood out bigtime.

Sanogo might be the player of the tournament. Expecting Kalkbrenner to take care of Baylor as long as the refs don't get Creighton into foul trouble.

I picked Furman to win yesterday but I really blew it with A&M, Penn State is the real deal, if they get by Texas they can meet Uconn in the final four. I don't see the Zags beating Uconn.

[REJECTEDBYCLARK]

Not you, but the person you quoted is all over the place. But these guys who are misacted as go to guys for their programs won't be go to guys in the NBA, but that shouldn't diminish their overall talent level because of it. I don't think he's giving that any credence at all.

How about instead of indirectly taking a shot at me you post your opinion on each player, explain how I'm "all over the place" and contribute to the discussion on these players. I've already explained in great detail the issues with players like George, Smith Jr. and T. Smith a number of times. What does "misacted as go to guys" mean?

Smith Jr. got BENCHED by his coach yesterday because he couldn't risk blowing his team's chance to win a tournament game due to Smith's poor play. Terquavion is a massive inefficient chucker. What am I not giving credence to? The goal is to find players who know how to win games and to win you need to be smart and efficient in as many facets of the game as possible.

It's noteven that I disagree with you on those guys, except George, I can see the path fwd for him to become good. But you come across as steadfast & unwavering in your opinion, inefficiency is something that should be expected or at least taken into account tho. These are young guys asked to lead programs going up against Jrs & Srs. On the flipside, efficient college players don't automatically become efficient NBAers as well, especially bigs. Wasn't trying to take a shot, mabad if you felt that way.

I'm not unwavering at all, I came around on Taylor Hendricks because I paid too much attention to his defensive lapses before. I can assure you age has nothing to do with things like basketball IQ, shot selection, effort, shooting mechanics and many other things. I don't like making excuses for players and when you find yourself trying to make a lot of excuses for what they actually show you on the court, it's a red flag.

Furthermore, I didn't say there's no path for George to become a good player, only that it's a long and hard path because there are a lot of holes in his game for all his tools. There are other players in the draft who are freshman who you don't have to worry about as many things as you do with George and are therefore safer picks who still have high ceilings.

[REJECTEDBYCLARK]

Zach Edey getting all his baskets just because he's 7'4 295 in this game against Dickinson.

He just got schooled and blown by by a FIVE FOOT EIGHT guard on Fairleigh Dickinson. EMBARASSING.

[WuTang_CMB]

Purdue upset yikes

[REJECTEDBYCLARK]

Purdue upset yikes

I had them losing in round of 32, Dickinson were AMAZING. Edey got SCHOOLED.

[Thaddy]

terrible passer, terrible defender. Low IQ basketball player.

Sensabough isn't a winning player. You want to bring someone in who's been a part of a winning program and also has tools that we like. This is the reason why Rupert is probably going to be Ujiri's favorite prospect. Hendricks similarly has the measurements but he lacks the coordination and feel for the game.

Rupert wishes he was half the prospect Hendricks is. Masai definitely has Hendricks ranked higher

Hendricks is another forward, which we have way too many of already. The fact he's 6'9 and can shoot at a high level will be useful no matter where he goes. But the lack of handles, guard-like ability, and aggression will work against him when we consider potential.

Rupert was a contributor on a finals team in the NBL. The current NBA players who were brought up in the NBL and also had good productive seasons have always amounted to good players. We see this with LaMelo, Daniels, Giddy, etc. You have your Terrence Ferguson's as well but he didn't play well in that league either.

Hendricks ability at the next level will be dependent on having a good point guard and playmakers around him. Rupert has exp playing the point and could turn into a three level scorer. He likely will be ready to go as a 3+D option for us and could be developed into a Bridges like player in his prime.

[WuTang_CMB]

Purdue upset yikes

I had them losing in round of 32, Dickinson were AMAZING. Edey got SCHOOLED.

Out of all first seeds they were the most vulnerable

[Yallbecrazy]

I don't think Edey was the problem.
Purdue having a bunch of unathletic shooters on the floor who missed all their wide open threes was the problem.
I still don't draft Edey even late in the 2nd round though.

[WuTang_CMB]

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[REJECTEDBYCLARK]

Purdue upset yikes

I had them losing in round of 32, Dickinson were AMAZING. Edey got SCHOOLED.

Out of all first seeds they were the most vulnerable

They're a garbage team who got exposed multiple times this year by pretty mediocre teams. Will be interesting to see how Fairleigh Dickinson fares against likely Memphis. They are a TOUGH team that played incredible basketball, every player on their team was LOCKED IN. Wish the Raptors played on a routine basis with their cohesion and effort levels.

[REJECTEDBYCLARK]

I don't think Edey was the problem.
Purdue having a bunch of unathletic shooters on the floor who missed all their wide open threes was the problem.
I still don't draft Edey even late in the 2nd round though.

Oh Edey definitely wasn't why they lost, but he also definitely wasn't the reason why they won.

And he should have been.

They denied him on the block like it was nothing, he struggled with his decision making out of the double teams and overall didn't come through in the clutch. For a guy who is 7'4 close to 300 lbs he should have been able to establish himself in the post a ton more and he couldn't. He also is just overall slow to react and has relied on his length to compensate for this at the college level. He won't get away with it in the NBA.