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I think the stat is a product of the Twolves organization and less on Finch's coaching ability.

Really? Rosas and Connelly both have him rosters with some deep-seeded issues?

Last I check, Finch's record was 94-93, 1 game over .500. Can you name another NBA Team that only had 2 coaches with winning records? Flip was 427-392. The other "successful" coaches are Thib 97-107, Alderman 97-133. That is a very low bar to clear. It's like being the second most successful coach for the Cleveland Browns in the last 10 years. Anyone know who that is?

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New Orleans has only had two coaches at .500, and both were just one-season stints in the first two seasons in NO (The NBA counts the NO Hornets and NO/OKC Hornets in the Pelicans franchise), Paul Silas (.573) and Tim Floyd (.500). The Charlotte Hornets/Bobcats have also only had Dave Cowens (.609) and Allan Bristow (.500) above .500, both from the earlier iteration of the franchise. Toronto just has Dwane Casey (.573) and Nick Nurse (.583). Utah just has Jerry Sloan (.623) and Quin Snyder (.585).

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Worth noting...Gobert is averaging 2.0 blocks per game since the trade (1.3 before), and his rebounding is up from 11.3 to 12.6.

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Really? Rosas and Connelly both have him rosters with some deep-seeded issues?

Last I check, Finch's record was 94-93, 1 game over .500. Can you name another NBA Team that only had 2 coaches with winning records? Flip was 427-392. The other "successful" coaches are Thib 97-107, Alderman 97-133. That is a very low bar to clear. It's like being the second most successful coach for the Cleveland Browns in the last 10 years. Anyone know who that is?

I see what you are saying now. Your quote is about him being #2, and that the organization has been bad for years, and that’s true.

However, I read it as you saying that Finch’s good record was just a bad coach with a good organization the last two years.

I think Finch doesn’t get enough credit. Just like previous coaches, this organization didn’t do the coach a lot of favors, and he may have had a worst time than most, with clear voids at certain positions. But unlike previous coaches, he still got wins, and has got a lot of them (by wolves standards) in a short amount of time.

I am not sure what yard stick to use to claim Wolves as a good organization. Maybe sell to team to make lots of money?

When I listen to Finch, he makes a lot of sense. He was the one that claims to drew up a lot of plays that make Towns/Gobert work before the trade. He also said will stick with the two bigs when things gets tough. So, I am just surprised that incorporating Gobert took so long. I don't remember seeing any Gobert back to the basket type plays until recently. Some of the timeout practice, team discipline (fouls+turnovers), and play calls (or no play calls) are very questionable. Of course, we don't know the insider story, maybe that is just his way of teaching these young guys to play the right way. I do think he is one of the better coaches we had but still not sure if he is the right one.

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Really? Rosas and Connelly both have him rosters with some deep-seeded issues?

Last I check, Finch's record was 94-93, 1 game over .500. Can you name another NBA Team that only had 2 coaches with winning records? Flip was 427-392. The other "successful" coaches are Thib 97-107, Alderman 97-133. That is a very low bar to clear. It's like being the second most successful coach for the Cleveland Browns in the last 10 years. Anyone know who that is?

Since you asked...

New Orleans has only had two coaches at .500, and both were just one-season stints in the first two seasons in NO (The NBA counts the NO Hornets and NO/OKC Hornets in the Pelicans franchise), Paul Silas (.573) and Tim Floyd (.500). The Charlotte Hornets/Bobcats have also only had Dave Cowens (.609) and Allan Bristow (.500) above .500, both from the earlier iteration of the franchise. Toronto just has Dwane Casey (.573) and Nick Nurse (.583). Utah just has Jerry Sloan (.623) and Quin Snyder (.585).

OK, you got me on a technicality. I am surprised that SAS is not on the list, Pop's been coaching that team for a hundred years. Let's not compare Flip/Finch to Sloan/Snyder. Toronto won a championship and surprised Mitchell didn't get above .500. Hornets/Bobcats/Pelicans are a mess anyway For our new season ticket holders' sake, let's hope Finch stay above water this year

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The Wolves would have had a 4-0 trip through California if they didn’t blow a 12-point, fourth-quarter lead against the Warriors eight days ago. But the final three games of the trip – wins over the Clippers, Lakers and Kings — were a terrific recovery … and maybe their best three-game stretch of the season. The Wolves held the two L.A. teams (with whom they’re fighting for playoff and/or Play-In position) to just 99 points per 100 possessions, and they’re now back in the top 10 in defensive efficiency for what would be the first time in 19 years (since their 2004 conference finals team).

https://www.nba.com/news/power-rankings-2022-23-week-21

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Somewhere in the universe, there is a reality where Cavs drafted Embiid instead of Wiggins and Twolves took Giannis instead of Shabazz. Wolves go on to win 3 NBA Championships with Embiid and Giannis against the midget line up GSW. I just hope that is not the same reality as the hot dog hands because basketball would suck and I wouldn’t care to posting here. Happy Oscar night, we could still hope and dream.

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He was polite to not say “DLo effect”

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What about ORTG?

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"We got shooters man!" -Rudy Gobert, 3/20/23

This season, per game
Anderson 0.6-1.4, .419
Conley 2.3-5.7, .412
McDaniels 1.4-3.4, .396
Prince 1.4-3.5, .396
Edwards 2.7-7.3, .371

Are we sure this is the Minnesota Timberwolves?

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"We got shooters man!" -Rudy Gobert, 3/20/23

This season, per game
Anderson 0.6-1.4, .419
Conley 2.3-5.7, .412
McDaniels 1.4-3.4, .396
Prince 1.4-3.5, .396
Edwards 2.7-7.3, .371

Are we sure this is the Minnesota Timberwolves?

Interesting, it doesn't feel like they shot that well. The last game help a lot . The name that should be on the list is not - Nowell. We should do more kick out type passes with Gobert with the ball in the middle and we need shoot creators.

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"We got shooters man!" -Rudy Gobert, 3/20/23

This season, per game
Anderson 0.6-1.4, .419
Conley 2.3-5.7, .412
McDaniels 1.4-3.4, .396
Prince 1.4-3.5, .396
Edwards 2.7-7.3, .371

Are we sure this is the Minnesota Timberwolves?

Interesting, it doesn't feel like they shot that well. The last game help a lot . The name that should be on the list is not - Nowell. We should do more kick out type passes with Gobert with the ball in the middle and we need shoot creators.

Yes, I think these numbers are a bit misleading. We are not good enough to outgun other teams on regular basis. I have a question though. After watching NAW struggling both in offense and in defense against bigger opponents I wonder if we should get another shooter, but not a small guard such as Seth Curry, Bryn Forbes. I wonder if a big wing sharpshooter such as Joe Harris from the bench can make a big difference. In this case NAW can slide at PG/SG position. The best case scenario would be Wendell Moore development into Royce O'Neal type of 3&D guy. But what about sign-n-trade Reid for Kenrich Williams? He is a good rebounder, solid 3pt shooter, and he hustles.

Gobert/Garza/Knight
Towns/Anderson/Minott
MCD/TP/Williams
Edwards/NAW/Moore
Conley/MacLaughlin/Rivers

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Yes, I think these numbers are a bit misleading. We are not good enough to outgun other teams on regular basis. I have a question though. After watching NAW struggling both in offense and in defense against bigger opponents I wonder if we should get another shooter, but not a small guard such as Seth Curry, Bryn Forbes. I wonder if a big wing sharpshooter such as Joe Harris from the bench can make a big difference. In this case NAW can slide at PG/SG position. The best case scenario would be Wendell Moore development into Royce O'Neal type of 3&D guy. But what about sign-n-trade Reid for Kenrich Williams? He is a good rebounder, solid 3pt shooter, and he hustles.

Gobert/Garza/Knight
Towns/Anderson/Minott
MCD/TP/Williams
Edwards/NAW/Moore
Conley/MacLaughlin/Rivers

Before thinking about Kendrick Williams, Wolves have a guy name Towns that may fit the bill. They are going to try him out tonight

Reid is so bipolar for me. He seems to be great at some situations but isn't the 3D power wing. Prince is supposed to be that guy. I think a bigger, stronger, more consistent and more available Prince certainly could help this team.

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Interesting, it doesn't feel like they shot that well. The last game help a lot . The name that should be on the list is not - Nowell. We should do more kick out type passes with Gobert with the ball in the middle and we need shoot creators.

Yes, I think these numbers are a bit misleading. We are not good enough to outgun other teams on regular basis.

Interestingly, we're averaging nearly a whole 3-point attempt per game less since the trade, but percentage has improved from .357 to .375 as a team.

The other significant change

Before trade: 25.5 apg to 15.2 tpg
After trade: 27.7 apg to 14.1 tpg