2022-23 Season Discussion and Review - the Blockbuster trade and playoff downfall

[sunsbg]

BINGO!

Finally you came to your senses.

Nobody is asking Robinson to be a 20-10 player

You said he'll become all star playing with CP3 so why lower your expectations suddenly.

Keep in mind KD will certainly miss a good number of games. Having a player like Ayton who doesn't complain about shots, but can give you 20+ppg if required will be huge in the future.

being an all star doesn't mean 20-10, and no i didn't lower my expectations. LOL

take a look at Deandre Jordan's all star season, not to mention his 3 all-nba season... something ayton will never be able to match

but, i think you are too in love with ayton to think straight

Poor Mitch, CP3 is retiring soon so he'll remain a scrub while Ayton is putting 20/10 (likely on another team to make you happy).

[TOO]

You said he'll become all star playing with CP3 so why lower your expectations suddenly.

Keep in mind KD will certainly miss a good number of games. Having a player like Ayton who doesn't complain about shots, but can give you 20+ppg if required will be huge in the future.

being an all star doesn't mean 20-10, and no i didn't lower my expectations. LOL

take a look at Deandre Jordan's all star season, not to mention his 3 all-nba season... something ayton will never be able to match

but, i think you are too in love with ayton to think straight

Poor Mitch, CP3 is retiring soon so he'll remain a scrub while Ayton is putting 20/10 (likely on another team to make you happy).

It'll be the most empty 20/10 in the league though. Weak middies and uncontested rebounds. Yawn.

[lonea]

You said he'll become all star playing with CP3 so why lower your expectations suddenly.

Keep in mind KD will certainly miss a good number of games. Having a player like Ayton who doesn't complain about shots, but can give you 20+ppg if required will be huge in the future.

being an all star doesn't mean 20-10, and no i didn't lower my expectations. LOL

take a look at Deandre Jordan's all star season, not to mention his 3 all-nba season... something ayton will never be able to match

but, i think you are too in love with ayton to think straight

Poor Mitch, CP3 is retiring soon so he'll remain a scrub while Ayton is putting 20/10 (likely on another team to make you happy).

LOL, as if calling Robinson a scrub will make my feelings hurt

[Slim Charless]

being an all star doesn't mean 20-10, and no i didn't lower my expectations. LOL

take a look at Deandre Jordan's all star season, not to mention his 3 all-nba season... something ayton will never be able to match

but, i think you are too in love with ayton to think straight

Poor Mitch, CP3 is retiring soon so he'll remain a scrub while Ayton is putting 20/10 (likely on another team to make you happy).

LOL, as if calling Robinson a scrub will make my feelings hurt

He is a scrub though.

[bigfoot]

I think everyone can agree we have the GOAT with Al McCoy and he will be missed sorely upon his retirement this offseason.

[TOO]

I think everyone can agree we have the GOAT with Al McCoy and he will be missed sorely upon his retirement this offseason.

Poor Al, been a human for 200 years, now people think he's a goat.

[ImNotMcDiSwear]

I think everyone can agree we have the GOAT with Al McCoy and he will be missed sorely upon his retirement this offseason.

I remember when they took Al off TV, because his play-by-play style was too old school. It's more descriptive, wordy and intense, as it's designed for radio. Modern TV commentary is more "broad stroke," more basic and relaxed. I missed him immediately.

His voice will ring in history as long as the NBA does, though. His call of Gar Heard's shot to send it to overtime v the Celtics is classic. Of the guys who call games like Al McCoy, he's among the very best ever. There's a reason he's in the Ring of Honor.

FWIW, I think our team is likely to have a much better chance to win it all next season than it does this season, because I think Ishbia's gonna (because he's gotta) go all in $$$-wise.

It'll be weird if we win it all just as soon as Al puts down the mic.

[Saberestar]

Kawhi Leonard isn't playing today against the Magic. Good opportunity to get some separation from them.

[bwgood77]

I think everyone can agree we have the GOAT with Al McCoy and he will be missed sorely upon his retirement this offseason.

I remember when they took Al off TV, because his play-by-play style was too old school. It's more descriptive, wordy and intense, as it's designed for radio. Modern TV commentary is more "broad stroke," more basic and relaxed. I missed him immediately.

His voice will ring in history as long as the NBA does, though. His call of Gar Heard's shot to send it to overtime v the Celtics is classic. Of the guys who call games like Al McCoy, he's among the very best ever. There's a reason he's in the Ring of Honor.

FWIW, I think our team is likely to have a much better chance to win it all next season than it does this season, because I think Ishbia's gonna (because he's gotta) go all in $$$-wise.

It'll be weird if we win it all just as soon as Al puts down the mic.

How can he go all in money wise? I mean he can retain his own FA and use the tax MLE but not much more. I think the best chance is this year, as we very well lose Okogie next year, and Chris Paul is declining fast, as well as KD seemingly having more injuries. If we somehow can keep Okogie and he breaks out big time, that could be one thing, but it will depend on CP3 bouncing back some and improving (unlikely) and KD keeping up his game. This has actually been his best year ever efficiency wise, and historically in the NBA so he will be hard pressed to keep up that level of play, especially as his body continues to break down.

We really need to hope we can stay healthy next year. There is always a good chance next year if there is no decline in Paul, KD, and we can stay healthy, but it appears we will go into the playoffs pretty healthy and you never know if you can do that. At any time this year prior to the playoffs we would have had some major player out (maybe outside of the 3 games KD played) and maybe a handful before the all star break....we had been on an 11-3 run before the all star break beating Brooklyn a couple of time, Boston, Sacramento, Memphis and some other good teams. So when healthy this year, we are pretty elite before and after KD.

[collidingNeurons]

Suns should offer Ayton to the Magic for Fultz and Carter, they probably dont do it, but maybe they are still enamored with his potential

[collidingNeurons]

I think everyone can agree we have the GOAT with Al McCoy and he will be missed sorely upon his retirement this offseason.

I remember when they took Al off TV, because his play-by-play style was too old school. It's more descriptive, wordy and intense, as it's designed for radio. Modern TV commentary is more "broad stroke," more basic and relaxed. I missed him immediately.

His voice will ring in history as long as the NBA does, though. His call of Gar Heard's shot to send it to overtime v the Celtics is classic. Of the guys who call games like Al McCoy, he's among the very best ever. There's a reason he's in the Ring of Honor.

FWIW, I think our team is likely to have a much better chance to win it all next season than it does this season, because I think Ishbia's gonna (because he's gotta) go all in $$$-wise.

It'll be weird if we win it all just as soon as Al puts down the mic.

How can he go all in money wise? I mean he can retain his own FA and use the tax MLE but not much more. I think the best chance is this year, as we very well lose Okogie next year, and Chris Paul is declining fast, as well as KD seemingly having more injuries. If we somehow can keep Okogie and he breaks out big time, that could be one thing, but it will depend on CP3 bouncing back some and improving (unlikely) and KD keeping up his game. This has actually been his best year ever efficiency wise, and historically in the NBA so he will be hard pressed to keep up that level of play, especially as his body continues to break down.

We really need to hope we can stay healthy next year. There is always a good chance next year if there is no decline in Paul, KD, and we can stay healthy, but it appears we will go into the playoffs pretty healthy and you never know if you can do that. At any time this year prior to the playoffs we would have had some major player out (maybe outside of the 3 games KD played) and maybe a handful before the all star break....we had been on an 11-3 run before the all star break beating Brooklyn a couple of time, Boston, Sacramento, Memphis and some other good teams. So when healthy this year, we are pretty elite before and after KD.

I dont think we ever saw the pre trade Suns this year at their best, they were still in a post playoff series meltdown funk early and Bridges had just began to assert himself prior to the trade when we were finally getting pieces back, will never know now but i think that team with the better depth and health would have been the better option this year and long term, a smaller deals to get Vanderbilt and or Gordon and i would have been much happier about the team then i am now, oh well

[spanishninja]

the magic did the lord's work beating the clips. as bad as we played without our best player, at least we didnt lose.

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[Jdiddy701]

The Magic’s win is huge for us. WCJ and Fultz played a hell of a game. I don’t understand when teams rest players that are healthy. That loss could haunt the Clippers, Kawhi should have played. Same thing earlier this week when AD rested against Houston. Todays NBA is so soft.


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[Hitachi77]

Clippers probably want to play us even less than we want to play them. They tanked to the 4 seed 2 years ago, might do it again.

I think down the stretch, teams will want that coveted 6 spot. Not saying they should, as facing us with our likelihood of injury might even be the best choice. But if KD comes back with ~6 games remaining, and we look as good as we looked for those 3 games or better, teams might risk falling to the 7 to avoid playing us at the 5.

Hell, even Milwaukee tanked their last game last year (def seemed that way with them playing their bottom guys 40+ mins) to avoid the Nets who were in disarray.

[bwgood77]

I remember when they took Al off TV, because his play-by-play style was too old school. It's more descriptive, wordy and intense, as it's designed for radio. Modern TV commentary is more "broad stroke," more basic and relaxed. I missed him immediately.

His voice will ring in history as long as the NBA does, though. His call of Gar Heard's shot to send it to overtime v the Celtics is classic. Of the guys who call games like Al McCoy, he's among the very best ever. There's a reason he's in the Ring of Honor.

FWIW, I think our team is likely to have a much better chance to win it all next season than it does this season, because I think Ishbia's gonna (because he's gotta) go all in $$$-wise.

It'll be weird if we win it all just as soon as Al puts down the mic.

How can he go all in money wise? I mean he can retain his own FA and use the tax MLE but not much more. I think the best chance is this year, as we very well lose Okogie next year, and Chris Paul is declining fast, as well as KD seemingly having more injuries. If we somehow can keep Okogie and he breaks out big time, that could be one thing, but it will depend on CP3 bouncing back some and improving (unlikely) and KD keeping up his game. This has actually been his best year ever efficiency wise, and historically in the NBA so he will be hard pressed to keep up that level of play, especially as his body continues to break down.

We really need to hope we can stay healthy next year. There is always a good chance next year if there is no decline in Paul, KD, and we can stay healthy, but it appears we will go into the playoffs pretty healthy and you never know if you can do that. At any time this year prior to the playoffs we would have had some major player out (maybe outside of the 3 games KD played) and maybe a handful before the all star break....we had been on an 11-3 run before the all star break beating Brooklyn a couple of time, Boston, Sacramento, Memphis and some other good teams. So when healthy this year, we are pretty elite before and after KD.

I dont think we ever saw the pre trade Suns this year at their best, they were still in a post playoff series meltdown funk early and Bridges had just began to assert himself prior to the trade when we were finally getting pieces back, will never know now but i think that team with the better depth and health would have been the better option this year and long term, a smaller deals to get Vanderbilt and or Gordon and i would have been much happier about the team then i am now, oh well

Oh yeah, I don't think we were close to seeing their best once they all got to play together for awhile. Bridges seemere d to think they were going to be a force once healthy. I think we have probably nearly as good of a chance this year (and definitely better if KD gets injured of course), but for sure for next year and beyond as not only do we still have Bridges/Cam and whatever asset we got for Crowder, but a 23 pick to add, and more options for trade with Cam, etc.

[bwgood77]

Yeah, WCJ looking good. Put up the same #s Ayton did against the Warriors a couple games back and averaging 15 and 8 this year. Fultz the big suprrise in this one. Who would have thought after a year or two Fultz would be having games like this while Jackson would be out of the league? Not shooting well from 3 yet but finally hitting his free throws, averaging 13.8 and 5.6.

[Mr Puddles]

I think a silver lining to not having KD with us, is that the there won't be much of a scouting report on this Suns team. We all know how teams are going to play defense against us: 5 against 4 with Okogie left open.

If Montgomery can draw up some good plays to run in our practices to counter that, a sneaky advantage we might have is having offenses in place that other teams haven't had a chance to scout yet.

[kennydorglas]

Suns should offer Ayton to the Magic for Fultz and Carter, they probably dont do it, but maybe they are still enamored with his potential

if they dont get victor, i think we need to give them a call

[collidingNeurons]

Yeah, WCJ looking good. Put up the same #s Ayton did against the Warriors a couple games back and averaging 15 and 8 this year. Fultz the big suprrise in this one. Who would have thought after a year or two Fultz would be having games like this while Jackson would be out of the league? Not shooting well from 3 yet but finally hitting his free throws, averaging 13.8 and 5.6.

unfortunate we didn't take chances on those two when they were under valued, knowing the suns they will do something dumb like a sign and trade for Kyrie for Ayton after Kyrie and KD collude this summer and give their teams ultimatums, then we can face a highly motivated Ayton 4 times a year and Doncic finally brings out his best

[bwgood77]

Yeah, WCJ looking good. Put up the same #s Ayton did against the Warriors a couple games back and averaging 15 and 8 this year. Fultz the big suprrise in this one. Who would have thought after a year or two Fultz would be having games like this while Jackson would be out of the league? Not shooting well from 3 yet but finally hitting his free throws, averaging 13.8 and 5.6.

unfortunate we didn't take chances on those two when they were under valued, knowing the suns they will do something dumb like a sign and trade for Kyrie for Ayton after Kyrie and KD collude this summer and give their teams ultimatums, then we can face a highly motivated Ayton 4 times a year and Doncic finally brings out his best

Well Monty does need established superstars. Otherwise he may have star quality players pigeon holed into being role players, as we've seen.

Monty is great at a lot of things and I think he's a really good coach, but I don't think he's the best at getting the most out of players that have not already established them as stars...giving them the freedom to expand their games and working with them to do even more.