Updates on former Wolves

[YaleS]

For those who complain we had to take Gobert out of certain plays in late game situations, LAL took DLo out of the last 2 critical plays too.

Great, but LAL did not give up half it's roster and half a decade worth of picks to get DLo, who was never known as defensive ace. We are doing great thou

[YaleS]

Gobert fits great in this thread, fingers crossed

[Dan33185]

NBA center Felton Spencer dies at 55

Spencer was then selected with the No. 6 overall pick in 1990 by the Minnesota Timberwolves, where he spent his first three seasons in the league. He was named to the all-rookie team after his first season, where he averaged 7.1 points and 7.9 rebounds per game. Spencer also spent time with the Utah Jazz, Orlando Magic, Golden State Warriors, San Antonio Spurs and New York Knicks before he retired in 2002.

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Oh man, that's sad. He was with the Wolves right about the time I started being interested in them (I would have been 7-8 years old), so I have a spot in my heart for players around that era.

[papertrail]

For those who complain we had to take Gobert out of certain plays in late game situations, LAL took DLo out of the last 2 critical plays too.

Dumb post. He was waiting for to check back in, but they had momentum after getting a rebound and Ham didn't call a timeout.

[Kineto]

papertrail : account created Feb 08 2023 (date of the DLo trade)
21 post : all about DLo (one here, all other in the GB post about Dlo)

mmmh... interresting...

[TimberKat]

papertrail : account created Feb 08 2023 (date of the DLo trade)
21 post : all about DLo (one here, all other in the GB post about Dlo)

mmmh... interresting...

And I didn't think DLo care about the Minnesota fan base. Maybe we should had given him the max contract so he will play a little more D and remember to enter games and stay in games

[Note30]

Since we helped the Lakers get the ex-Wolves.

The Lakers have gone 9-3 without LeBron James and with all those ex-Wolves who were "super useless" trade pieces.

Meanwhile we're 5-6. So, I'd think given that both teams are lacking their best players, it's about an even situation.

Meaning we definitely **** lost this trade. Anyone who challenged me in saying we made a bad decision want to recant their statement?

The Lakers will probably resign their pieces as will we, but overall they got way better at the cost of one pick (and it's clear our ex-players were worth more).

[shrink]

Since we helped the Lakers get the ex-Wolves.

The Lakers have gone 9-3 without LeBron James and with all those ex-Wolves who were "super useless" trade pieces.

Meanwhile we're 5-6. So, I'd think given that both teams are lacking their best players, it's about an even situation.

Meaning we definitely **** lost this trade. Anyone who challenged me in saying we made a bad decision want to recant their statement?)

I’m sorry, but this is a horrible and inaccurate presentation of info to justify your opinion.

The Lakers have been without James for nine games, not twelve, where they have gone 6-3. That included a home loss to these Minnesota Timberwolves. Over that nine game span, Anthony Davis has gone off, and Austin Reeves has been terrific. Claiming that the three ex-Wolves are responsible for the team wins is wrong, especially since DLo has missed several of those games - and he’s the one Wolf we actually traded them!

This is from a Lakers fan

The new additions have certainly helped but these people complaining haven't even watched most of the Lakers games and seem to think the new additions are "dominating" or something. D'Angelo Russell has literally missed 6 games due to injury and the Lakers were still winning. Malik Beasley has been shooting horribly on the Lakers until last night's game (37/32/67 shooting splits) and the Lakers were still winning. Lebron has missed the last 8 games due to injury and the Lakers were still winning.

And for the record, Gobert has picked it up. In March, he is averaging 11.8 RB, 1.8 BLK, 1.6 STL, 16.2 PPG, and the Wolves have won 4 of their last 6.

[TimberKat]

There are some fair points by @Note30. Lakers were terrible in the beginning of the year. They were slow, no one, including LBJ, could hit a 3. Davis looked like Jesus on the cross. The started the season 2-10. Their season started to turn at the point until Davis got hurt. While ex-wolves is helping them. You need to factor in Schroder gave them a hugh all around lift in ptg, Reaves playing better, Hachimura trade, and Davis coming back strong from injury. While Vanderbilt gave them some hustle help, DLo scoring, and Beasley 3s. It's not the main reason for their turn around.

I wish we got Schroder and Hachimura to replace some of our bipolar players.

[PharmD]

I don't see how Vando and Beasley playing well means that the Wolves lost the DLo trade. We certainly lost the trade where we traded those guys away but that was a different trade.

[Klomp]

I don't see how Vando and Beasley playing well means that the Wolves lost the DLo trade. We certainly lost the trade where we traded those guys away but that was a different trade.

I cannot +1 this enough. I can excuse the ignorance of the national media and fans regarding this, but for our own fan base to spew these false narratives is inconceivable to me!

[bluethunder0005]

And "losing" the trade where those guys were traded is entirely dependent on where the draft picks land. Beverly, Vanderbilt, and Beasley aren't needle movers as evident by their play this year.

[Klomp]

And "losing" the trade where those guys were traded is entirely dependent on where the draft picks land. Beverly, Vanderbilt, and Beasley aren't needle movers as evident by their play this year.

They certainly aren't moving the needle for Utah any time soon...

[MN7725]

And "losing" the trade where those guys were traded is entirely dependent on where the draft picks land. Beverly, Vanderbilt, and Beasley aren't needle movers as evident by their play this year.

there were/are plenty of people that had Wolves losing the trade just because they are paying the rest of Gobert's contract, at his age

[Note30]

And "losing" the trade where those guys were traded is entirely dependent on where the draft picks land. Beverly, Vanderbilt, and Beasley aren't needle movers as evident by their play this year.

I think if we had Vanderbilt and Bev rn, we'd be in a different spot this year.

[Note30]

And "losing" the trade where those guys were traded is entirely dependent on where the draft picks land. Beverly, Vanderbilt, and Beasley aren't needle movers as evident by their play this year.

They certainly aren't moving the needle for Utah any time soon...

But they are for the Lakers

[Note30]

Since we helped the Lakers get the ex-Wolves.

The Lakers have gone 9-3 without LeBron James and with all those ex-Wolves who were "super useless" trade pieces.

Meanwhile we're 5-6. So, I'd think given that both teams are lacking their best players, it's about an even situation.

Meaning we definitely **** lost this trade. Anyone who challenged me in saying we made a bad decision want to recant their statement?)

I’m sorry, but this is a horrible and inaccurate presentation of info to justify your opinion.

The Lakers have been without James for nine games, not twelve, where they have gone 6-3. That included a home loss to these Minnesota Timberwolves. Over that nine game span, Anthony Davis has gone off, and Austin Reeves has been terrific. Claiming that the three ex-Wolves are responsible for the team wins is wrong, especially since DLo has missed several of those games - and he’s the one Wolf we actually traded them!

This is from a Lakers fan

The new additions have certainly helped but these people complaining haven't even watched most of the Lakers games and seem to think the new additions are "dominating" or something. D'Angelo Russell has literally missed 6 games due to injury and the Lakers were still winning. Malik Beasley has been shooting horribly on the Lakers until last night's game (37/32/67 shooting splits) and the Lakers were still winning. Lebron has missed the last 8 games due to injury and the Lakers were still winning.

And for the record, Gobert has picked it up. In March, he is averaging 11.8 RB, 1.8 BLK, 1.6 STL, 16.2 PPG, and the Wolves have won 4 of their last 6.

Vanderbilt has completely changed the game for the Lakers not sure what you are talking about.

Wow 16 and 11 and 2 blocks. Remind me what KAT had last year?

[Klomp]

And "losing" the trade where those guys were traded is entirely dependent on where the draft picks land. Beverly, Vanderbilt, and Beasley aren't needle movers as evident by their play this year.

I think if we had Vanderbilt and Bev rn, we'd be in a different spot this year.

Yep....worse.

[Note30]

And "losing" the trade where those guys were traded is entirely dependent on where the draft picks land. Beverly, Vanderbilt, and Beasley aren't needle movers as evident by their play this year.

I think if we had Vanderbilt and Bev rn, we'd be in a different spot this year.

Yep....worse.

Oh **** this. You really want to start this ****?

We're way worse this year in every department.

Since Vando joined the team the Lakers went from being 6-9 to 9-6. So a 3 game difference in standings.

Beverley just joined the Bulls and they have a 7-3 record since he joined, as compared to the 4-6 record they had the 10 games before he joined. Also a 3 game difference in standings.

Meanwhile with Gobert we've had a record of 27-33. And when he hasnt played we've gone 8-4.

Tell me what top 10 player is so good that the team plays significantly better without him than with him. Luka? Nope. Giannis? Nope. Jokic? No. Durant? No. Leonard? No. Curry? No. Embiid? No. List goes on but even Shai, Tatum, Mitchell all make their team better.

Not to mention we'd still have all of our assets if we still had those guys so we wouldn't feel so screwed at the deadline and could have traded for a player that would have made our team better at a position of need.

We're also going to probably be giving up a lottery pick this year.

We as a fan base wouldn't be so desperate to see wins because we mortgaged any ability to make our team substantially better through trades or draft. In fact, even if we did miss the playoffs this year atleast we'd still have Walker Kessler and this year's pick, along with guys the team loved instead of being forced to trade players to accommodate the fact that our PG hated our C. We wouldn't be forced to trade for an old PG that doesn't fit our timeline just so a guy we paid 40 million dollars for could finally catch a lob.

A lot of us could look forward to tanking and potentially getting Wemby, given that Edwards and KAT are out now. However small a chance that would be. Or even look forward to drafting a good PG.

So yeah had we not made that stupid trade last summer we'd be way better off.

Keep schlobbin on the FOs knob Klomp cause that's what you do best.

[Klomp]

I think if we had Vanderbilt and Bev rn, we'd be in a different spot this year.

Yep....worse.

Oh **** this. You really want to start this ****?

We're way worse this year in every department.

Since Vando joined the team the Lakers went from being 6-9 to 9-6. So a 3 game difference in standings.

Beverley just joined the Bulls and they have a 7-3 record since he joined, as compared to the 4-6 record they had the 10 games before he joined. Also a 3 game difference in standings.

Meanwhile with Gobert we've had a record of 27-33. And when he hasnt played we've gone 8-4.

Tell me what top 10 player is so good that the team plays significantly better without him than with him. Luka? Nope. Giannis? Nope. Jokic? No. Durant? No. Leonard? No. Curry? No. Embiid? No. List goes on but even Shai, Tatum, Mitchell all make their team better.

Not to mention we'd still have all of our assets if we still had those guys so we wouldn't feel so screwed at the deadline and could have traded for a player that would have made our team better at a position of need.

We're also going to probably be giving up a lottery pick this year.

We as a fan base wouldn't be so desperate to see wins because we mortgaged any ability to make our team substantially better through trades or draft. In fact, even if we did miss the playoffs this year atleast we'd still have Walker Kessler and this year's pick, along with guys the team loved instead of being forced to trade players to accommodate the fact that our PG hated our C. We wouldn't be forced to trade for an old PG that doesn't fit our timeline just so a guy we paid 40 million dollars for could finally catch a lob.

A lot of us could look forward to tanking and potentially getting Wemby, given that Edwards and KAT are out now. However small a chance that would be. Or even look forward to drafting a good PG.

So yeah had we not made that stupid trade last summer we'd be way better off.

Keep schlobbin on the FOs knob Klomp cause that's what you do best.

You're forgetting something rather significant here...

Last year, the Minnesota 15-man roster had 79 lost games due to injury. Only Patrick Beverley (20) missed more than 12 games
This year, the Minnesota 15-man roster has 174 lost games due to injury already. Towns (51), McLaughlin (37), Prince (24) and Anderson (13) have already missed more than 12 games.

Fine, put Vanderbilt, Beverley and Beasley back on the roster. But you still have Towns missing 51 games. You still have McLaughlin missing games. You still have Prince missing games. You're now relying on Naz Reid as your starting C for 50+ games with no Towns. How are you winning games? Are you a Top 10 defense as we've been most of the season to-date? Unlikely.

This has nothing to do with agreeing or disagreeing with the trade. This is a pure numbers game.