Any team in history you'd bet against the 2017 Warriors in a 7-game series?

CodeBreaker · Post #1 » by **CodeBreaker** » Sun Mar 19, 2023 2:23 pm

A team with ridiculous offensive firepower, great defense, and good depth.
Two MVP players in the absolute prime of their careers.
Third option is one of the top-3 greatest shooters ever who is an elite off-ball player.
A DPOY who can also make plays for the team.
A veteran defensive specialist who was a Finals MVP.

Cubbies2120 · Post #2 » by **Cubbies2120** » Sun Mar 19, 2023 2:26 pm

CodeBreaker wrote:A team with ridiculous offensive firepower, great defense, and good depth.
Two MVP players in the absolute prime of their careers.
Third option is one of the top-3 greatest shooters ever who is an elite off-ball player.
A DPOY who can also make plays for the team.
A veteran defensive specialist who was a Finals MVP.

Any team in history you'd bet against the 2017 Warriors in a 7-game series?

I don't think you beat them on star power so I think you pick a team that is well rounded.

2014 Spurs? 2004 Pistons?

NyKnicks1714 · Post #3 » by **NyKnicks1714** » Sun Mar 19, 2023 2:28 pm

The 2017 Rockets, assuming sound officiating.

fteru6uhre54ew · Post #4 » by **fteru6uhre54ew** » Sun Mar 19, 2023 2:36 pm

2000-2003s Lakers would destroyed them. They wouldn't have anyone who could match with Shaq and Kobe

Wolveswin · Post #5 » by **Wolveswin** » Sun Mar 19, 2023 2:46 pm

Rodman Bulls. That would have been the best made for TV matchup.

Imagine Green and Rodman matched up. Wow, the fireworks.

Rodman vs Green
Pippen vs Durant
Jordan vs Klay
Harper vs Curry

Longley vs Pachulia
Kukoc vs Iggy
Kerr vs Livingston

LascelleL · Post #6 » by **LascelleL** » Sun Mar 19, 2023 2:54 pm

The 2001 Lakers I feel like would have the best chance. Both in terms of match up problems on the offensive end and defensive problems caused by who the hell is guarding Shaq?

Kobe and Rick Fox, Brian Shaw, Ron Harper, Ty Lue...this team had some really good perimeter defenders. You swap out Hoarce Grant for Robert Horry in the starting line up for Match ups and I really like their chances.

I also think which set of rules they play under would have a major effect. If it's the 2000s era rules, then its Lakers in 5. 2015 rules, then Im gonna say coin toss in 7.

Post #7 » by **Harry Garris** » Sun Mar 19, 2023 2:57 pm

LascelleL wrote:The 2001 Lakers I feel like would have the best chance. Both in terms of match up problems on the offensive end and defensive problems caused by who the hell is guarding Shaq?

Kobe and Rick Fox, Brian Shaw, Ron Harper, Ty Lue...this team had some really good perimeter defenders. You swap out Hoarce Grant for Robert Horry in the starting line up for Match ups and I really like their chances.

Probably the best chance but Shaq would need to absolutely go off.

Yes the team did have good perimeter defenders for their era, but no one who had the skillset or experience to guard a modern pace and space offense.

rim213221 · Post #8 » by **rim213221** » Sun Mar 19, 2023 2:59 pm

They’re great but probably not unbeatable. Just the following season they nearly lost to the Harden/Paul Rockets (and probably would have if Paul didn’t get hurt). I don’t think anyone thinks the 2018 Rockets were unbeatable. They also likely wouldn’t lost at least a game or two if Kawhi didn’t get hurt in Game 1 of the WCF.

Kiss of Death · Post #9 » by **Kiss of Death** » Sun Mar 19, 2023 3:06 pm

NyKnicks1714 wrote:The 2017 Rockets, assuming sound officiating.

I came here to post exactly that.
The Rockets (with fair officiating) >>> The Warriors.

Liam_Gallagher · Post #10 » by **Liam_Gallagher** » Sun Mar 19, 2023 3:13 pm

The 96 Bulls.

DoItALL9 · Post #11 » by **DoItALL9** » Sun Mar 19, 2023 5:06 pm

I wouldn't bet on them but let's give a shot to:

2002 Sacramento Kings

1987 Lakers

1988 or 1989 Pistons

1967 Phi 76ers

1983 Philadelphia 76ers

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cgf · Post #12 » by **cgf** » Sun Mar 19, 2023 5:35 pm

Depends on the odds. I'm not a big fan of losing money, so I wouldn't bet much against them, but sports are crazy and better teams lose to worse ones all the time. So if I got juicy enough odds on a team that I think had at least some chance without both KD & Steph getting hurt, I'd put a little down.

Roy T · Post #13 » by **Roy T** » Sun Mar 19, 2023 5:50 pm

2012-2013 Heat would of match up well against the Warriors

Taj FTW · Post #14 » by **Taj FTW** » Sun Mar 19, 2023 6:03 pm

No chance. They were a 73-9 teams that added an MVP in his prime. That team was absurd.

OdomFan · Post #15 » by **OdomFan** » Sun Mar 19, 2023 6:04 pm

2007 Spurs
1996 Bulls
1998 Jazz
2004 Pistons
2005 Pacers
2014 Spurs
2019 Raptors
2001 Lakers
1995 Magic
1995 Rockets
2008 Celtics
1986 Celtics
1983 76ers

All would stand a chance.

Taj FTW · Post #16 » by **Taj FTW** » Sun Mar 19, 2023 6:06 pm

OdomFan wrote:2007 Spurs
1996 Bulls
1998 Jazz
2004 Pistons
2005 Pacers
2014 Spurs
2019 Raptors
2001 Lakers
1995 Magic
1995 Rockets
2008 Celtics
1986 Celtics
1983 76ers

All would stand a chance.

rtiff68 · Post #17 » by **rtiff68** » Sun Mar 19, 2023 6:07 pm

OdomFan wrote:2007 Spurs
1996 Bulls
1998 Jazz
2004 Pistons
2005 Pacers
2014 Spurs
2019 Raptors
2001 Lakers
1995 Magic
1995 Rockets
2008 Celtics
1986 Celtics
1983 76ers

All would stand a chance.

If I believed Ray Allen was better than Steph Curry, I’d agree with you.

tarantism · Post #18 » by **tarantism** » Sun Mar 19, 2023 6:12 pm

Thanks for the laughs guys.

Warriors in 4.

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Blame Rasho · Post #19 » by **Blame Rasho** » Sun Mar 19, 2023 6:26 pm

A healthy 2017 Spurs team.

I mean they beat them twice in regular season, were getting blown out with Kawhi in the playoffs… but injuries happen and that was that.

One of the more interesting what ifs..

ConSarnit · Post #20 » by **ConSarnit** » Sun Mar 19, 2023 6:36 pm

Harry Garris wrote:
LascelleL wrote:The 2001 Lakers I feel like would have the best chance. Both in terms of match up problems on the offensive end and defensive problems caused by who the hell is guarding Shaq?

Kobe and Rick Fox, Brian Shaw, Ron Harper, Ty Lue...this team had some really good perimeter defenders. You swap out Hoarce Grant for Robert Horry in the starting line up for Match ups and I really like their chances.

Probably the best chance but Shaq would need to absolutely go off.

Yes the team did have good perimeter defenders for their era, but no one who had the skillset or experience to guard a modern pace and space offense.

Is each team playing as they did at the time: the Lakers are playing 2001 style basketball and the Warriors are playing 2017 style basketball? If that's the case the Warriors win pretty easily.

2000-01 Lakers 3pt attempts (playoffs): 15.9fga, 38.6%

2016-17 Warriors 3pt attempts (playoffs): 32.9fga, 38.6%

LAL 2001 ppg: 103.4

GSW 2017 ppg: 119.3

No matter how much they gave the ball to Shaq they'd never be able to make up that scoring difference. That was also the last good Draymond shooting year: 4.6 3's per game @ 41% in the playoffs. How does Shaq guard that when he's never faced a barrage of perimeter shooting at anywhere near that level? The Lakers would get 3pt volumed to death.

In a game where 2 teams are taken in a time machine to a neutral location and are forced to play immediately almost no team is going to beat the Warriors because their 3pt shooting volume and efficiency is going to dwarf their opponent. Every team prior to 2010 would be at a huge disadvantage.