Jordan Love Thread - All Aboard the Love Train

[ReasonablySober]

Lol. Takes a whole lot of audacity to call someone out for saying MVP or bust for Love, and then go on to use 4 of the 5 best QBs in the AFC as a measuring stick.. if he would’ve said “MVP candidate or bust” and you couldn’t have used 4 MVP candidate QBs, what would you have said then?

What? I'm not the one using MVPs are a measuring stick. Dude above needs Love to be Mahomes to justify trading up. As if there isn't a level below All-Time Great that would be pretty awesome.

Love needs to align with those QBs you mentioned to warrant a long leash and he also needs to align with those QBs you mentioned to keep Gutenkist in the decision maker chair.. year 4 in the system, regardless year 1 as the starter, there should be a level well above mediocre that Love needs to reach from the jump..

I don’t think it’s Patty Mahomes or bust but if Love doesn’t flash similar to how Rodgers did in 08, how could you blame anyone for immediately wanting to move on? Record aside, we can go 3-14 next year and still want Love as the guy.. there’s no shame in that. The difference will be who you’re after in the draft at that point.. if you want Brock Bowers or Caleb Williams.. that’s more of a definitive decision we’d all have to make on Loves performance next season.. if Love is terrible, his replacement is there for the taking. If Love shows promise, arguably the best player in the draft is there to boost your franchise QB.

The margin for error should be razor thin. Love better be a baller or there 100% should be hell to pay. Kirk Cousins comparison also doesn’t come close to cutting it. You run Rodgers out of Green Bay for a younger version of Kirk Cousins? That’s insane to think of..

Rodgers is 39 years old!

[ReasonablySober]

A dude who was 90% leaning on retiring. Amazing.

[stillgotgame]

Love has twice the arm Cousins has. If he grasps the game as well as Cousins he’ll be a solid pro for years to come.

Temper your first year expectations though. Our receiving corp including TE is going to be inexperienced at best and bottom 5 in the league at worst. Don’t blame that on Love. Give him some time. That’s part of why I want us to pickup his 5th year option. I think we will pick it up by the way. We’ll know by May 1.

[jute2003]

I think he just needs to be capable of winning in his first year as starter...like he doesn't need to be capable of carrying the team but they can't lose because of him either. Does that make sense?

Show some flashes, don't **** the bed, and show progress throughout the season.

He was thought of as a project coming out but wasn't really a reach so the tools are there.

Be above average with signs of growing into good.

[Frank Nova]

A dude who was 90% leaning on retiring. Amazing.

Lol you just learned about that 4 days ago.. Mark Murphy made his moron comments before he even knew what Rodgers plans were. You’re better than acting like you preemptively knew what was coming.. Rodgers also said multiple times he’s not a victim but doubled down on his motivation for wanting to be a New York Jet stems from Green Bay making him feel like he was no longer wanted….
Why? Because he was so close to hanging it up? Lol that makes zero sense.. he’s being ran out of GB, why can’t you just admit that?

I’m well aware you want Rodgers gone, he’s “comically expensive” and old, those are fair reasons. But, that doesn’t make the way GBs side has handled this any better and also doesn’t give Love a long leash to be mediocre for an unreasonable period of time..

[ReasonablySober]

A dude who was 90% leaning on retiring. Amazing.

Lol you just learned about that 4 days ago.. Mark Murphy made his moron comments before he even knew what Rodgers plans were. You’re better than acting like you preemptively knew what was coming.. Rodgers also said multiple times he’s not a victim but doubled down on his motivation for wanting to be a New York Jet stems from Green Bay making him feel like he was no longer wanted….
Why? Because he was so close to hanging it up? Lol that makes zero sense.. he’s being ran out of GB, why can’t you just admit that?

I’m well aware you want Rodgers gone, he’s “comically expensive” and old, those are fair reasons. But, that doesn’t make the way GBs side has handled this any better and also doesn’t give Love a long leash to be mediocre for an unreasonable period of time..

How has GB handled this wrong?

ETA: Unless you mean not shipping his ass out last year. Because yea, that's fireable for Gute.

[M-C-G]

He used a 4th rounder. He didn't use three future firsts. Or one. It was a 4th.

And I think Love is going to be very good. Would you be upset if he only ends up being Josh Allen? Justin Herbert? Joe Burrow? Trevor Lawrence?

You know, a bunch of dudes who haven't been MVPs?

Lol. Takes a whole lot of audacity to call someone out for saying MVP or bust for Love, and then go on to use 4 of the 5 best QBs in the AFC as a measuring stick.. if he would’ve said “MVP candidate or bust” and you couldn’t have used 4 MVP candidate QBs, what would you have said then?

What? I'm not the one using MVPs are a measuring stick. Dude above needs Love to be Mahomes to justify trading up. As if there isn't a level below All-Time Great that would be pretty awesome.

Yeah the 'ousting' of Rodgers so he must be MVP level or it is a failure is pretty puzzling. There are a lot of outcomes in between failure and greatest QB of all time for Jordan that would great results. Sucks if people are setting the bar at MVP, just not a realistic expectation.

Since 2007 here is the list of MVPs;
Peyton Manning
Tom Brady
Aaron Rodgers
Adrian Peterson
Cam Newton
Matt Ryan (no idea he won MVP)
Lamar Jackson
Patrick Mahomes

If by 2024 Jordan Love isn't on there, bust, big time!

[Swan Vox]

One of the best compliments Love has received by analysts / coaches is his ability to stay calm under pressure and deliver the ball without fear of getting hit. A trait that reminds me of Troy Aikman. Having an Aikman-like career (sans concussions) would be amazing.

[M-C-G]

I think he just needs to be capable of winning in his first year as starter...like he doesn't need to be capable of carrying the team but they can't lose because of him either. Does that make sense?

Show some flashes, don't **** the bed, and show progress throughout the season.

He was thought of as a project coming out but wasn't really a reach so the tools are there.

Be above average with signs of growing into good.

This is too well reasoned to exist on realgm.

[M-C-G]

I think I must live in an alternate reality where Rodgers has been considering retirement for a few years.

[M-C-G]

If I cut through the BS, it would seem pretty well accepted that Gute goes as Love goes from here on out. In the next two seasons if Love doesn't look every bit worth 'trading up' in the 1st (still laugh at this because teams that really trade up look like the Panthers or when the Bears traded up for Mitch fricken Trubisky, who gave up a LOT to get there), Gute and probably MLF are gone. Which is probably fine, their fates are tied to the success of Love now.

[WeekapaugGroove]

Odds say there's a far better chance Love is average to bad vs good enough to matter. That's no knock on Love it's just the reality of drafting QBs. It's why I philosophically was against the pick, why create a mess for something that has low odds of actually working out.

But it's water under the bridge now and I hope Love beats the odds.

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[Reddeye]

What starting QBs in the NFC would you guys trade for Love right now not even taking into account the contracts of the players?

Hurts is obvious. Fields likely, but a lot of his success last year was running the ball. Guys like Dak, Cousins, Murray, Carr, Jones, Goff, Geno, Stafford all have their flaws. The unknown with Love might be more tempting to take a chance on than those guys.. Of course you take Carolina's QB that will be the first pick.

[stillgotgame]

A dude who was 90% leaning on retiring. Amazing.

Got to spread your hate for Rodgers to every thread? This thread is about Jordan.
What an obsession you have.

[Ron Swanson]

What starting QBs in the NFC would you guys trade for Love right now not even taking into account the contracts of the players?

Hurts is obvious. Fields likely, but a lot of his success last year was running the ball. Guys like Dak, Cousins, Murray, Carr, Jones, Goff, Geno, Stafford all have their flaws. The unknown with Love might be more tempting to take a chance on than those guys.. Of course you take Carolina's QB that will be the first pick.

Uhhh, what?

[JayMKE]

I qualified what I said enough that it shouldn't be taken as Love literally needs to win MVP in X amount of years or he's a bust, the point being that to justify Gute's pick & developing a guy for years Love has to be more than just an average QB. If Love busts then 100% Gute has to be fired, I feel like most people agree with that so how good does Love have to be good for you to be satisfied?

It seems odd people who have bitched about Rodgers's play for years adopt a live & let live approach with his successor & our dumbass FO.

[M-C-G]

It seems odd people who have bitched about Rodgers's play for years adopt a live & let live approach with his successor & our dumbass FO.

Not really, this might seem strange, but when you don't have the highest paid QB in the league, you don't expect the GOAT. If you have a young QB, it is almost like you change your expectations. I know that sounds nuts.

[Iheartfootball]

If you place the same expectations on Love that you had for Rodgers you're bound to be disappointed.

[Ron Swanson]

I think he only ends up a Cousins level QB if the field vision just isn't there. Love laps him as an athlete and in arm talent. And please don't bring up "4x Pro Bowler" as if Pro Bowls mean anything in today's NFL. Cousins is the definition of a mediocre starting QB who's "just good enough" to where you get fooled into keep giving him multi-year contracts. It's the Mendoza line of QB play. If he's worse than Cousins then I think it's pretty obvious that it was a blown pick.

[MVP2110]

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