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Re: Amen & Ausar Thompson - Potential 2022 NBA Draft Guys 

Post#201 » by clyde21 » Tue Mar 21, 2023 5:25 pm

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JMAC3 wrote:1. Go look up Scottie Pippen rookie card at age 22

https://th.bing.com/th?id=OIF.i39QELgEJez27PKo4ALe%2bw&pid=ImgDet&rs=1

Then look at Ausar Thompson at age 20.

Then look at him averaging 16 pts, 7 boards, 6 assists, 2.5 steals and over a block a game.

Scottie career numbers 16 pts, 6.5 boards, 5 assists, 2 steals and just under a block per game.


Oh well you've clearly solved it :lol:


Similar size, similar athlete, similar impact on the game, similar stats, similar outside shooters young... idk about you but those are the type of things I look at when making a comp.


you're really sitting here comparing Ausar's OTE stats to Scottie's NBA stats?

while simultaneously complaining about Scoot's 18/5/6/2 in the GL?

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Re: Amen & Ausar Thompson - Potential 2022 NBA Draft Guys 

Post#202 » by EvanZ » Tue Mar 21, 2023 5:38 pm

JMAC3 wrote:
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JMAC3 wrote:1. Go look up Scottie Pippen rookie card at age 22

https://th.bing.com/th?id=OIF.i39QELgEJez27PKo4ALe%2bw&pid=ImgDet&rs=1

Then look at Ausar Thompson at age 20.

Then look at him averaging 16 pts, 7 boards, 6 assists, 2.5 steals and over a block a game.

Scottie career numbers 16 pts, 6.5 boards, 5 assists, 2 steals and just under a block per game.


Oh well you've clearly solved it :lol:


Similar size, similar athlete, similar impact on the game, similar stats, similar outside shooters young... idk about you but those are the type of things I look at when making a comp.


It's not similar size at all man. Are you just ignoring the 5" difference in wingspan and the huge difference in frame? Apparently.
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Re: Amen & Ausar Thompson - Potential 2022 NBA Draft Guys 

Post#203 » by EvanZ » Tue Mar 21, 2023 5:41 pm

Closer in size to Iguodala...that's probably the most optimistic comp I could come up with for Ausar.
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Re: Amen & Ausar Thompson - Potential 2022 NBA Draft Guys 

Post#204 » by Hal14 » Tue Mar 21, 2023 6:24 pm

EvanZ wrote:Closer in size to Iguodala...that's probably the most optimistic comp I could come up with for Ausar.

That's probably the closest comp for Ausar. Iggy is a 4x champ, 1x finals MVP, 1x all-star, 2x all-defensive team. In his 19th year in the league.

You get a guy like that in the 4-6 range, it's a great pick.
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Re: Amen & Ausar Thompson - Potential 2022 NBA Draft Guys 

Post#205 » by JMAC3 » Tue Mar 21, 2023 7:48 pm

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JMAC3 wrote:
EvanZ wrote:
Oh well you've clearly solved it :lol:


Similar size, similar athlete, similar impact on the game, similar stats, similar outside shooters young... idk about you but those are the type of things I look at when making a comp.


you're really sitting here comparing Ausar's OTE stats to Scottie's NBA stats?

while simultaneously complaining about Scoot's 18/5/6/2 in the GL?

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I mean I could use Scottie stats at Central Arkansas if that is better? or Scottie's rookie year?

No comparisons are going to be perfect when comparing college to pros.
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Re: Amen & Ausar Thompson - Potential 2022 NBA Draft Guys 

Post#206 » by JMAC3 » Tue Mar 21, 2023 7:51 pm

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JMAC3 wrote:
EvanZ wrote:
Oh well you've clearly solved it :lol:


Similar size, similar athlete, similar impact on the game, similar stats, similar outside shooters young... idk about you but those are the type of things I look at when making a comp.


It's not similar size at all man. Are you just ignoring the 5" difference in wingspan and the huge difference in frame? Apparently.


I really don't put a lot of stock in wingspan measurements from 30 years ago. Is there a link to combine results or are you just going with whatever google is saying?

Also, same with Thompson twins. Not sure I am ready to say internet knows their wingspan either. Seems like results come combine day are always a good bit different on guys heights and wingspans etc despite all these camps reporting it years earlier.
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Post#207 » by Big J » Tue Mar 21, 2023 9:18 pm

Feels like a lot of dudes are **** on these twins without actually having any conviction about it. If you are going to criticize them come out and actually take a side and have a strong take. None of this mealymouthed pussyfooting y'all are doing.
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Re: Amen & Ausar Thompson - Potential 2022 NBA Draft Guys 

Post#208 » by EvanZ » Tue Mar 21, 2023 9:50 pm

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Similar size, similar athlete, similar impact on the game, similar stats, similar outside shooters young... idk about you but those are the type of things I look at when making a comp.


It's not similar size at all man. Are you just ignoring the 5" difference in wingspan and the huge difference in frame? Apparently.


I really don't put a lot of stock in wingspan measurements from 30 years ago. Is there a link to combine results or are you just going with whatever google is saying?



Dude, it's not wingspan measurements from 30 years ago. It's literally that I watched Scottie Pippen play basketball. Did you? :lol:

As for Ausar and Amen I have their measurements from the same source I get all of mine. Ausar has a 6'10" ws from last year. This is not from google or "the internet".
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Re: Amen & Ausar Thompson - Potential 2022 NBA Draft Guys 

Post#209 » by clyde21 » Tue Mar 21, 2023 9:53 pm

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clyde21 wrote:
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Similar size, similar athlete, similar impact on the game, similar stats, similar outside shooters young... idk about you but those are the type of things I look at when making a comp.


you're really sitting here comparing Ausar's OTE stats to Scottie's NBA stats?

while simultaneously complaining about Scoot's 18/5/6/2 in the GL?

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I mean I could use Scottie stats at Central Arkansas if that is better? or Scottie's rookie year?

No comparisons are going to be perfect when comparing college to pros.


it's just weird how you essentially called GL stats worthless but have the audacity to not only use OTE stats but comp them to NBA stats from the 80s and 90s. :lol:
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Post#210 » by EvanZ » Tue Mar 21, 2023 10:01 pm

Can anyone find Scottie's Central Arkansas stats? I'd love to see them.
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Post#211 » by clyde21 » Tue Mar 21, 2023 10:06 pm

EvanZ wrote:Can anyone find Scottie's Central Arkansas stats? I'd love to see them.


15/9 on 54% according to one article i saw

wasn't Pippen also like 6-1 in HS and then one year just went thru a crazy growth spurt (like AD)?
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Re: Amen & Ausar Thompson - Potential 2022 NBA Draft Guys 

Post#212 » by JMAC3 » Tue Mar 21, 2023 10:57 pm

EvanZ wrote:Can anyone find Scottie's Central Arkansas stats? I'd love to see them.


BB Ref has them near bottom of the page.

https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/p/pippesc01.html

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Re: Amen & Ausar Thompson - Potential 2022 NBA Draft Guys 

Post#213 » by JMAC3 » Tue Mar 21, 2023 11:00 pm

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JMAC3 wrote:
EvanZ wrote:
It's not similar size at all man. Are you just ignoring the 5" difference in wingspan and the huge difference in frame? Apparently.


I really don't put a lot of stock in wingspan measurements from 30 years ago. Is there a link to combine results or are you just going with whatever google is saying?



Dude, it's not wingspan measurements from 30 years ago. It's literally that I watched Scottie Pippen play basketball. Did you? :lol:

As for Ausar and Amen I have their measurements from the same source I get all of mine. Ausar has a 6'10" ws from last year. This is not from google or "the internet".


You are saying you watched him play and eyeballed a 7-3 wingspan? You are more talented than I am.

I am mainly saying wingspan data is not really that accurate unless it is official combine measurements.. regarding Thompson twins.
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Re: Amen & Ausar Thompson - Potential 2022 NBA Draft Guys 

Post#214 » by JMAC3 » Tue Mar 21, 2023 11:05 pm

clyde21 wrote:
JMAC3 wrote:
clyde21 wrote:
you're really sitting here comparing Ausar's OTE stats to Scottie's NBA stats?

while simultaneously complaining about Scoot's 18/5/6/2 in the GL?

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I mean I could use Scottie stats at Central Arkansas if that is better? or Scottie's rookie year?

No comparisons are going to be perfect when comparing college to pros.


it's just weird how you essentially called GL stats worthless but have the audacity to not only use OTE stats but comp them to NBA stats from the 80s and 90s. :lol:


Yeah, I am not making a 1 for 1 comparison to say it will exactly profile the same, but you can see they both impact the game in same ways to a similar degree. Nothing is ever going to be perfect, which it seems like you want it to be.

You have to have some way to compare college to the gleauge to NBL to NBA to Spain. You can't just argue it's not the same every single time and disregard it as a whole.

For Example: Josh Giddey averaged 7.5 rebounds and assists in the NBL, I feel like those were good indicators of his style but maybe not the exact numbers he would average in the NBA.
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Re: Amen & Ausar Thompson - Potential 2022 NBA Draft Guys 

Post#215 » by clyde21 » Tue Mar 21, 2023 11:35 pm

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clyde21 wrote:
JMAC3 wrote:
I mean I could use Scottie stats at Central Arkansas if that is better? or Scottie's rookie year?

No comparisons are going to be perfect when comparing college to pros.


it's just weird how you essentially called GL stats worthless but have the audacity to not only use OTE stats but comp them to NBA stats from the 80s and 90s. :lol:


Yeah, I am not making a 1 for 1 comparison to say it will exactly profile the same, but you can see they both impact the game in same ways to a similar degree. Nothing is ever going to be perfect, which it seems like you want it to be.

You have to have some way to compare college to the gleauge to NBL to NBA to Spain. You can't just argue it's not the same every single time and disregard it as a whole.

For Example: Josh Giddey averaged 7.5 rebounds and assists in the NBL, I feel like those were good indicators of his style but maybe not the exact numbers he would average in the NBA.


you could just say you're being hypocritical af and save everyone the trouble here tbh.
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Re: Amen & Ausar Thompson - Potential 2022 NBA Draft Guys 

Post#216 » by Big J » Tue Mar 21, 2023 11:39 pm

clyde21 wrote:
JMAC3 wrote:
clyde21 wrote:
it's just weird how you essentially called GL stats worthless but have the audacity to not only use OTE stats but comp them to NBA stats from the 80s and 90s. :lol:


Yeah, I am not making a 1 for 1 comparison to say it will exactly profile the same, but you can see they both impact the game in same ways to a similar degree. Nothing is ever going to be perfect, which it seems like you want it to be.

You have to have some way to compare college to the gleauge to NBL to NBA to Spain. You can't just argue it's not the same every single time and disregard it as a whole.

For Example: Josh Giddey averaged 7.5 rebounds and assists in the NBL, I feel like those were good indicators of his style but maybe not the exact numbers he would average in the NBA.


you could just say you're being hypocritical af and save everyone the trouble here tbh.


You don't speak for everyone here, lotta us think he's got a point.
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Post#217 » by UnbelievablyRAW » Tue Mar 21, 2023 11:39 pm

I feel Amen would look great on the Wizards with the shooting and spacing.
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Re: Amen & Ausar Thompson - Potential 2022 NBA Draft Guys 

Post#218 » by JMAC3 » Tue Mar 21, 2023 11:50 pm

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you could just say you're being hypocritical af and save everyone the trouble here tbh.


Shocker another critique against a poster instead of talking about a player.

If you don't want people to analyze and critique prospects you might be on the wrong realgm board.

What are your critiques of Ausar or Amen?
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Re: Amen & Ausar Thompson - Potential 2022 NBA Draft Guys 

Post#219 » by clyde21 » Tue Mar 21, 2023 11:55 pm

JMAC3 wrote:
clyde21 wrote:
you could just say you're being hypocritical af and save everyone the trouble here tbh.


Shocker another critique against a poster instead of talking about a player.

If you don't want people to analyze and critique prospects you might be on the wrong realgm board.

What are your critiques of Ausar or Amen?


you don't need to change the subject - this is about how YOU made a point to downplay Scoot's stats in the GL, but somehow feel comfortable enough pimping Ausar's OTE stats around enough to comp him to Scottie **** Pippen.

if you think the GL is an easy program and its stats are worthless, it's impossible not to have the same take about the OTE, but even worse.

i'm not in this thread critiquing any player, just make sure sure the hypocrisy here is outlined the next time you bitch about Scoot's stats in the GL in his thread.
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Re: Amen & Ausar Thompson - Potential 2022 NBA Draft Guys 

Post#220 » by JMAC3 » Tue Mar 21, 2023 11:57 pm

UnbelievablyRAW wrote:I feel Amen would look great on the Wizards with the shooting and spacing.


Even with the shooting concerns, he fits next to so many other starting guards because he has such great size, athleticism and profiles to be a good-great defender.

I honestly like his fit next to Lamelo, Beal, Jalen Green, Haliburton/Buddy and really any of the Spurs guys.

The only teams in the top that I think are a meh fit is Orlando because Fultz and Suggs are already negative in the shooting department.

For Hornets, LaMelo is so good at catch and shoot threes that I think Amen could make life a bit easier on him and let him run off some screens and handoffs like Warriors use for Steph. Then at same time his ability to run the floor like a gazelle and finish would be an ideal fit to play with LaMelo tendacies to get the ball out quick and play a fast tempo game.

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