Let’s clear up Mavs Warriors ref stuff

[Mephariel]

Refs may be in the right, but it's bad officiating. Youre making calls, you have to be clear. If an entire team thinks you made a different call than you did, you clear that up. Even the announcers thought it was Mavs ball

Correct. The NBA should rule the game a tie. I expect that decision to come tomorrow morning.

LOL. You are right, because that one possession cost them the game. Let's just forget about this one:

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[styLesdavis]

I can’t for the life of me figure out why all the mavs were on the other side of the court? Even if they thought it was their ball, where are the players trying to take out the ball under the basket? What I missing?

Exactly this whole this stupid. It's almost insulting people's intelligence

Literally nobody on the Mavs.. not Cuban, not the players, not their fans have a single argument to refute the above.

Exactly. Why aren't they getting ready to inbound the ball then?

The moment the ref gave Poole the ball two Mavericks (Hardy and Bullock) were already running to the base line and were at mid court.
Don`t get me wrong: this should still be on the Mavs.

What i don`get get: IF the call was "crystal clear" - why was the 3rd ref on the other side of the court?

[PharmD]

Do teams call TO when they don't have possession? Seems like a waste.

It was a mandatory timeout, automatically charged to the home team (apparently that's a thing in the NBA, lol)

Ah i see. Pretty obscure rule.

I mean, these mandatory timeouts occur 8 times in most NBA games. Kind of astounding to me that people don't notice them.

[dhsilv2]

Refs may be in the right, but it's bad officiating. Youre making calls, you have to be clear. If an entire team thinks you made a different call than you did, you clear that up. Even the announcers thought it was Mavs ball

It's seemingly pretty clear that the announcer is the only person the players and team are listening to. That's not he ref's fault. That's the fault of the guy with full access to rewatch it and a team of people to correct him. And the players and entire team for listening to him and not paying attention to their damn job.

[blackcosmos]

the ball went out of bound under the Mavs basket. Regardless who has possession, the in bound play will occur underneath Mavs basket. Dallas simply f'ed up.

[Goon]

Worst thing out of that clip is the blatant no-call on a clear foul by Looney on Doncic. Amazing how 3 refs manage to miss that. He complains about refereeing like an idiot but dude gets clobbered with no calls every game, its a joke.

[Mavrelous]

the ball went out of bound under the Mavs basket. Regardless who has possession, the in bound play will occur underneath Mavs basket. Dallas simply f'ed up.

If it was DAL ball (which is what they though), they advance the ball, and inbound from mid court, that's why they were nowhere near.

[rtiff68]

Worst thing out of that clip is the blatant no-call on a clear foul by Looney on Doncic. Amazing how 3 refs manage to miss that. He complains about refereeing like an idiot but dude gets clobbered with no calls every game, its a joke.

Luka Doncic is a great, great player.

He’s also not only always complaining about the officiating all game, he’s also out there initiating more contact than almost anyone while trying to sell foul calls.

He’s currently 5th in FTA per game, so he’s succeeding.

Claiming that he “gets clobbered every game with no calls” is the actual joke, man.

C’mon. lol.

[ellobo]

I can’t for the life of me figure out why all the mavs were on the other side of the court? Even if they thought it was their ball, where are the players trying to take out the ball under the basket? What I missing?

The baseline ball advances to half court after a timeout doesn't it?

the ball went out of bound under the Mavs basket. Regardless who has possession, the in bound play will occur underneath Mavs basket. Dallas simply f'ed up.

If it was DAL ball (which is what they though), they advance the ball, and inbound from mid court, that's why they were nowhere near.

You can only advance the ball to midcourt on a timeout in the last 2 minutes of the 4th quarter or overtime.

Regardless of any confusion about whose ball is was, the inbound spot would be the same. If the Mavs thought it was their ball, they should have been trying to inbound it from that spot. If the Mavs knew it was the Warrior's ball, they should have been trying to defend the inbounds from that spot. But the Mavs approached it in a way that didn't make sense regardless of which way they thought the call had gone.

Anyone remember this:

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[blackcosmos]

the ball went out of bound under the Mavs basket. Regardless who has possession, the in bound play will occur underneath Mavs basket. Dallas simply f'ed up.

If it was DAL ball (which is what they though), they advance the ball, and inbound from mid court, that's why they were nowhere near.

This happen in the third quarter. They can’t advance the ball.

[Myth]

Do teams call TO when they don't have possession? Seems like a waste.

It was a mandatory timeout, automatically charged to the home team (apparently that's a thing in the NBA, lol)

Ah i see. Pretty obscure rule.

I'm surprised more people don't know it. I've heard them called TV timeouts and more commonly Officials Timeouts my whole life. They happen a lot and you tend to hear the commentators call them Officials Timeouts and then they go to commercial breaks. It isn't every game, but I would guess that it happens about once per day or more that there is a fair amount of games on. It just is mentioned casually and never seemingly explained on the air.

[Myth]

the ball went out of bound under the Mavs basket. Regardless who has possession, the in bound play will occur underneath Mavs basket. Dallas simply f'ed up.

If it was DAL ball (which is what they though), they advance the ball, and inbound from mid court, that's why they were nowhere near.

This happen in the third quarter. They can’t advance the ball.

Holy ****. The Mavs made this big fuss about protesting the game due to something that happened in the 3rd quarter? Lol, no way the NBA rules in their favor. I just assumed it was 4th based on how they acted.

[MoneyTalks41890]

Refs may be in the right, but it's bad officiating. Youre making calls, you have to be clear. If an entire team thinks you made a different call than you did, you clear that up. Even the announcers thought it was Mavs ball

It's seemingly pretty clear that the announcer is the only person the players and team are listening to. That's not he ref's fault. That's the fault of the guy with full access to rewatch it and a team of people to correct him. And the players and entire team for listening to him and not paying attention to their damn job.

Eh, sure, everyone should be more attentive here. But the hand motions obviously sparked confusion and the refs should've gone over to each bench and said "Warriors ball after the timeout, announcer got it wrong"

[Jerry Maine]

Refs may be in the right, but it's bad officiating. Youre making calls, you have to be clear. If an entire team thinks you made a different call than you did, you clear that up. Even the announcers thought it was Mavs ball

It's seemingly pretty clear that the announcer is the only person the players and team are listening to. That's not he ref's fault. That's the fault of the guy with full access to rewatch it and a team of people to correct him. And the players and entire team for listening to him and not paying attention to their damn job.

Eh, sure, everyone should be more attentive here. But the hand motions obviously sparked confusion and the refs should've gone over to each bench and said "Warriors ball after the timeout, announcer got it wrong"

That's true, the refs could have handled it better.

It's also true the Dallas bench dropped the ball and are paid to be all over stuff just like this.

[dhsilv2]

Refs may be in the right, but it's bad officiating. Youre making calls, you have to be clear. If an entire team thinks you made a different call than you did, you clear that up. Even the announcers thought it was Mavs ball

It's seemingly pretty clear that the announcer is the only person the players and team are listening to. That's not he ref's fault. That's the fault of the guy with full access to rewatch it and a team of people to correct him. And the players and entire team for listening to him and not paying attention to their damn job.

Eh, sure, everyone should be more attentive here. But the hand motions obviously sparked confusion and the refs should've gone over to each bench and said "Warriors ball after the timeout, announcer got it wrong"

No, they clearly weren't confusing. The announcer clearly wasn't paying attention. That's really what this all came down to. One dude missed it and nobody corrected him. And a team with near half a billion in spend a year listened to that one guy who they aren't supposed to be listening to at all. This all came down to people being lazy and one person doing a bad a job.

[Invictus88]

I wonder if Kevon Looney's misunderstanding of the call tipped everyone off the wrong way. I.e. folks saw him complaining and took that to believe it was called Mavericks ball.

If so I really want to believe that Kevon Looney just jedi-mind-tricked everyone on purpose; which would be epic. It would introduce a completely new layer of tactial deception into the nba. Baseball had the hidden ball trick. Football had the statue of liberty play. For basketball it's Looney Tunes!

Note that I don't really think any of that happened but it's fun to think about.

[Myth]

I wonder if Kevon Looney's misunderstanding of the call tipped everyone off the wrong way. I.e. folks saw him complaining and took that to believe it was called Mavericks ball.


If so I really want to believe that Kevon Looney just jedi-mind-tricked everyone on purpose; which would be epic.

Note that I don't really think any of that happened but it's fun to think about

I'm not ready to give Looney that much credit

I suspect he saw the timeout point and said "Wait, what?" and then the ref said, "no I was just saying it is their timeout, it is still Warriors ball" and that chilled Looney out.

[DwayneSchintzus]

I wonder if Kevon Looney's misunderstanding of the call tipped everyone off the wrong way. I.e. folks saw him complaining and took that to believe it was called Mavericks ball.


If so I really want to believe that Kevon Looney just jedi-mind-tricked everyone on purpose; which would be epic.

Note that I don't really think any of that happened but it's fun to think about

I'm not ready to give Looney that much credit

I suspect he saw the timeout point and said "Wait, what?" and then the ref said, "no I was just saying it is their timeout, it is still Warriors ball" and that chilled Looney out.

That's exactly what Kevon Looney WANTS you to think

[RunOKC]

NBA refs are corrupt but of all things to complain about it's your own mistake

I'll be shocked if the league does anything here

[MoneyTalks41890]

I wonder if Kevon Looney's misunderstanding of the call tipped everyone off the wrong way. I.e. folks saw him complaining and took that to believe it was called Mavericks ball.


If so I really want to believe that Kevon Looney just jedi-mind-tricked everyone on purpose; which would be epic.

Note that I don't really think any of that happened but it's fun to think about

I'm not ready to give Looney that much credit

I suspect he saw the timeout point and said "Wait, what?" and then the ref said, "no I was just saying it is their timeout, it is still Warriors ball" and that chilled Looney out.

Isn't it the case though that the Mavs didn't call a timeout, and the pointing to the Mavs was reflecting that they were getting charged with a TV timeout? I think you can see why there was some confusion there. If the Mavs had actually called a timeout the hand gestures would've been less confusing, I think.