Who wants Jaylen Brown and what is your offer?

[Hugi Mancura]

Boston doesn't need first round picks or young players, so those teams full of those should find third wheel. Portland might be good third team, if we presume they will finally break the team and start rebuild.

So trade like:
To Boston: Lillard

To Utah: J.Brown

To Portland: Gallinari (BOS), Clarkson/Sexton (Utah , S&T with Clarkson), R.Gay (Utah), some other salary fillers (Jones and Azubuike) from Utah + 2 first round picks from Utah and 1 from Boston.

I do think similar solution would work with Knicks. Without third team don't really think Knicks have anything Boston wants.

That is just so incredibly crappy for Portland

Yeah not trading the best player in franchise history for the corpses of Gallo and Gay, bench guards, filler and 2 firsts. No way any GM can sell that to season ticket holders let alone the FO

Idea of this trade is that Portland will start rebuild. Which means they trade everyone who is good away to other teams and start to suck. Off course this is awful trade if you want to have competitive team, but that was never the goal of this trade idea. Goal for Portland is to tank. So players coming your way doesn't matter. Lousier the better. Only picks matter.

Btw it was 3 firsts, and you can probably add 1 more or pick swaps to make it fairer, but if you want to rebuild would you want good players back? Do you want to go Utah's route or Detroit/Houston/OKC route?

[UnbelievablyRAW]

That is just so incredibly crappy for Portland

Yeah not trading the best player in franchise history for the corpses of Gallo and Gay, bench guards, filler and 2 firsts. No way any GM can sell that to season ticket holders let alone the FO

Idea of this trade is that Portland will start rebuild. Which means they trade everyone who is good away to other teams and start to suck. Off course this is awful trade if you want to have competitive team, but that was never the goal of this trade idea. Goal for Portland is to tank. So players coming your way doesn't matter. Lousier the better. Only picks matter.

Btw it was 3 firsts, and you can probably add 1 more or pick swaps to make it fairer, but if you want to rebuild would you want good players back? Do you want to go Utah's route or Detroit/Houston/OKC route?

Rebuilding as a concept is fine, but getting zero quality assets back for a guy not explicitly asking out is another thing. I'm pretty sure the Blazers would rather take J. Brown directly and build around him and Simons than trade for 3 non top 10 picks and filler to tank in an already small market. Even D. Mitch and Gobert brought back real young assets in return (with Markonnen really hitting) along with picks.

[Hugi Mancura]

Yeah not trading the best player in franchise history for the corpses of Gallo and Gay, bench guards, filler and 2 firsts. No way any GM can sell that to season ticket holders let alone the FO

Idea of this trade is that Portland will start rebuild. Which means they trade everyone who is good away to other teams and start to suck. Off course this is awful trade if you want to have competitive team, but that was never the goal of this trade idea. Goal for Portland is to tank. So players coming your way doesn't matter. Lousier the better. Only picks matter.

Btw it was 3 firsts, and you can probably add 1 more or pick swaps to make it fairer, but if you want to rebuild would you want good players back? Do you want to go Utah's route or Detroit/Houston/OKC route?

Rebuilding as a concept is fine, but getting zero quality assets back for a guy not explicitly asking out is another thing. I'm pretty sure the Blazers would rather take J. Brown directly and build around him and Simons than trade for 3 non top 10 picks and filler to tank in an already small market. Even D. Mitch and Gobert brought back real young assets in return (with Markonnen really hitting) along with picks.

Problem with building with Brown is same as with Markkanen. They are not on the same age group as rest of the team. If you pick a player this year, it will take 3-4 years before they become good, if they become good and that means you will lose Brown's prime years in the tanking years. So I rather build a team same way OKC did by having lot of picks in 3 year's. With those picks you can get 4-6 player group who can grow up together. Maybe 2 of those will actually become good, so then you will have a base in where all the players are in same age group. Negative side of that is you will be really bad 2-3 years and that will be tough for fans.

Building with Simons and Brown. Age difference is acceptable, but again comes the problem, they need more and if you want to have more then with Brown you don't have time to get those players from draft cause it takes that 3-4 years to grow those picks to real players. And to be honest team probably would be too good to get early picks anyway. So only way to improve is to find those really good 24-26 who are in trade market and those players aren't available very often. Maybe once in two years those player are available. That is pretty much the situation where Utah is right now if they want to build with Markkanen. They need to find these few available 25 year olds. So I find this route little bit riskier than going all in.

So if I would build with Portland I would trade Lillard, Nurkic and rest of the older players for picks and maybe couple younglings. But not get anything really good back.

Maybe Knicks would be better option than Utah cause they can throw in some of Barrett, Toppin, Quickley or Grimes with picks, even though I personally think Barrett is fools gold. And I would think Knicks would like to have Brown too.

[Joshyjess]

I heard that Ben Simmons might possibly be available for a trade!!!

[Vidaldo]

OKC should go for him imo.If you look at the available free agents this summer & the next, he fits the timeline the best.

Develop Chet & Williams next season, and try to find an experienced big man, and you have a contender for a couple of seasons.

[_NoMas]

Cavs and Timberwolves feel like two teams who could offer win now solutions for both teams involved in the trade (Cavs trade focused on Garland, or Timberwolve with KAT). Not sure if Boston gets better with either trade, but certainly keeps them in the win now picture… and I think both the Cavs and Wolves improve with Brown, who would be a good fit with those teams existing rosters

[Village Idiot]

Idea of this trade is that Portland will start rebuild. Which means they trade everyone who is good away to other teams and start to suck. Off course this is awful trade if you want to have competitive team, but that was never the goal of this trade idea. Goal for Portland is to tank. So players coming your way doesn't matter. Lousier the better. Only picks matter.

Btw it was 3 firsts, and you can probably add 1 more or pick swaps to make it fairer, but if you want to rebuild would you want good players back? Do you want to go Utah's route or Detroit/Houston/OKC route?

Rebuilding as a concept is fine, but getting zero quality assets back for a guy not explicitly asking out is another thing. I'm pretty sure the Blazers would rather take J. Brown directly and build around him and Simons than trade for 3 non top 10 picks and filler to tank in an already small market. Even D. Mitch and Gobert brought back real young assets in return (with Markonnen really hitting) along with picks.

Problem with building with Brown is same as with Markkanen. They are not on the same age group as rest of the team. If you pick a player this year, it will take 3-4 years before they become good, if they become good and that means you will lose Brown's prime years in the tanking years. So I rather build a team same way OKC did by having lot of picks in 3 year's. With those picks you can get 4-6 player group who can grow up together. Maybe 2 of those will actually become good, so then you will have a base in where all the players are in same age group. Negative side of that is you will be really bad 2-3 years and that will be tough for fans.

Building with Simons and Brown. Age difference is acceptable, but again comes the problem, they need more and if you want to have more then with Brown you don't have time to get those players from draft cause it takes that 3-4 years to grow those picks to real players. And to be honest team probably would be too good to get early picks anyway. So only way to improve is to find those really good 24-26 who are in trade market and those players aren't available very often. Maybe once in two years those player are available. That is pretty much the situation where Utah is right now if they want to build with Markkanen. They need to find these few available 25 year olds. So I find this route little bit riskier than going all in.

So if I would build with Portland I would trade Lillard, Nurkic and rest of the older players for picks and maybe couple younglings. But not get anything really good back.

Maybe Knicks would be better option than Utah cause they can throw in some of Barrett, Toppin, Quickley or Grimes with picks, even though I personally think Barrett is fools gold. And I would think Knicks would like to have Brown too.

A couple of points.

1. Portland isn't nearly as bad as the record would indicate. The Blazers have blown 17 double digit leads. If they had won 8 of those 17 games, just under half, their record would be 40-32 instead of 32-40. That would be 4th in the West. Get the Blazers a competent coach instead of the clown Billups to begin with

2. Portland, without rebuilding, is currently slated to pick 6th or 7th. Shaedon Sharpe is looking like a stud and Anfernee Simons has quietly kept improving.

3. not maximizing a return for Lillard in order to be worse is not how things work. That's just assinine logic.

[Ni Da Ye]

Mavs fan here. You can have anything except Luka.

[knicksstuff]

If im the knicks I trade randle package for Brown and then go after Embiid if philly loses early and Harden leaves to the Rockets. Reunite Embiid iwth his former agent Leon Rose.

This would take deals with two division rivals so unlikely but Brunson Brown and Embiid is well balanced trio

[whatisacenter]

Warriors' fan here pulling back my Kuminga/Poole offer.

[greg4012]

If he is on the market, OKC should definitely do something about it. What's the probability that they get a player better than Brown with their picks?

They wont and Shai/Brown combo is pretty decent. Brown is averaging 26 a game this year.

What would be the point of it unless he expresses a desire to play for OKC?

It would be an act of desperation to mortgage your future for a guy that is determined to hit free agency. There is too much uncertainty involved with acquiring him via trade and it might be best for all parties to wait until that happens.

It seems like almost no one in this thread understands this reality

[kuclas]

I would give Boston an offer less than what Toronto gave the spurs for K Leonard. Even though Leonard was coming off unity season. He was regarded as a top 5 nba player. Brown is now where near what Leonard was in 2018 trade.

So something like a zach Lavine plus a first round pick.

Fyi. I truly think Zach Lavine and demar are similar empty stats offensive players.

Thus the reason I’m using Zach since he’s younger the demar in a j brown trade.

But than I’m not sure j brown is a difference maker himself. We all know Leonard is a difference maker.

[bluejerseyjinx]

I'm a Celtic fan that would rather keep Jaylen Brown and trade Jason Tatum. Tatum is a champagne talent and athlete with a coca cola mentality and brain. Tatum is emotionally and mentality soft imho. He lacks toughness when good teams get in his face and push back on him and then turns into a turn over machine. His game and style of play is self serving like Antionne Walker was when he played and Tatum is all about him and his brand instead of TEAM.

[h4rrison]

Siakam straight up. Boston has a plethora of wings to slot in JB’s position and now have a legitimate big to play alongside Tatum. Makes their starting 5 much more balanced.

[Xatticus]

I’ll take a shot for the Magic:

WCjr, Gary Harris, 2023 magic 1st, 2023 bulls 1st (1-4p) and 2025 Magic unprotected 1st for Jaylen Brown.

So that’s 2 starters and 3 1st round picks.

I doubt we would ever do picks + an above average center. I think we're looking to compete even if we trade Brown.

I’d rip their arm off if that was offered to me. That’s way too much value to pass up.

[SpreeS]

Cavs and Timberwolves feel like two teams who could offer win now solutions for both teams involved in the trade (Cavs trade focused on Garland, or Timberwolve with KAT). Not sure if Boston gets better with either trade, but certainly keeps them in the win now picture… and I think both the Cavs and Wolves improve with Brown, who would be a good fit with those teams existing rosters

Brown is good fit for MIN and CAVS, but I don’t like for BOS. Brogdon/Samrt/White + Garland? Also BOS has own bigs Al and RW3. BOS needs wing or PF like Siakam.

[Johnny Bball]

Siakam actually seems like a really fair trade. Toronto gets a little younger and balances their roster better in the backcourt, Boston gets is clear number two that has been there and balances their roster better in the front court, and will benefit from playing with Tatum. Both are getting maxed. Both are slightly injury prone.

But this doesn't happen unitl both sign an extension and there is no way Toronto makes that trade for Brown without it, since Brown clearly looks to want to explore free agency and move if the right situation is there.

The other option is its a 3 way trade and Toronto gets a bunch of picks/swaps/youth, probably from the Knicks since that seems like his likely destination.

[MagicBagley18]

I'm a Celtic fan that would rather keep Jaylen Brown and trade Jason Tatum. Tatum is a champagne talent and athlete with a coca cola mentality and brain. He is emotionally soft and weak in that department and is downright soft imho. He lacks toughness when good teams get in his face and push back on him and then turns into a turn over machine. His game and style of play is self serving like Antionne Walker was when he played and Tatum is all about him and his brand instead of TEAM.

Like milwaukee game 6 on the road in an elimination game against the best player in the league and he scored 46 to force a game 7? I agree………softtttt

[Case2012]

Portland gets: Jaylen Brown and 2025 first-round pick.

Boston gets: Damian Lillard and two first-round picks (the New York Knicks' 2023 pick and Portland's first pick that doesn't convey to Chicago). Per the Lauri Markkanen deal, Chicago gets a future first-round, top 14 protected pick from 2022 to 2028.

Note: Lillard will be trade eligible on July 9, The deal is contingent on Brown agreeing to signing a long-term deal with Portland.

You are not a blazer fan if your offer is Lillard AND 2 firsts. It’s the other way around man. Brown and multiple picks for Dame.

But tbh it wouldn’t be dame, it would be a package to pair them together which would make us contenders… you know the whole point of rooting for a team is to hope they win a championship? Why reset the clock for more first round losses based around Brown instead of Lillard?

Simons, Sharpe and this years lottery pick if it falls outside the top 5.



Dame/Vet min
Thybulle (resigned)/Vet Min
Brown/ Nas
Grant/ Watford
Nurk (pls no)/ Eubanks

Build around that and you have a contender.

Trade the NY pick for the rights to Portland’s pick back from Chicago to send a future first to Boston if they want more than a top 10 pick, one of the best young shooters/scorers in the league and a potential star in sharpe who’s only 19 for a possible one year rental of Brown.

Then use the remaining Portland future firsts to upgrade the 5 and add some depth.

[Slim Charlez]

This only makes sense for Boston if they're getting a better player than Brown back, like a KD for example. The only player that fits that bill that would maybe be available is Lillard and even then it doesn't make much sense for Boston considering they already have one of the better guard rotations in the league.

Keep him and try to sign him long term. Don't fix something that isn't broken