Ty Lue may step down as coach this summer. Ballmer growing impatient with the current roster.

OkcSinceSGA · Post #1 » by **OkcSinceSGA** » Thu Mar 23, 2023 8:28 pm

Can you blame Ballmer? He’s spent an absurd amount of $ for this roster, with extremely poor ROI. Outside of one respectable 2021 run, they’ve had 3 years of total failure with this core. One bubble choke, one missing the playoffs, this year first round exit, maybe even miss the playoffs.

I think if they don’t win it next year, you go into the new arena with an entirely new core.

Post #2 » by **Mavrelous** » Thu Mar 23, 2023 8:35 pm

Ballmer about to find out what his like had to find out before him, there are limitations to endless line of credit in the NBA, and you can't shortcut your way into a dynasty.

Lockdown504090 · Post #3 » by **Lockdown504090** » Thu Mar 23, 2023 8:37 pm

Mavrelous wrote:Ballmer about to find out what his like had to find out before him, there are limitations to endless line of credit in the NBA, and you can't shortcut your way into a dynasty.

what does what you said have to do with injuries? who wins without their one of their all nba players?

Mamba81p · Post #4 » by **Mamba81p** » Thu Mar 23, 2023 8:39 pm

They were finally on the right path, and then they decided to listen to PG13 and sign Westbrick

druggas · Post #5 » by **druggas** » Thu Mar 23, 2023 8:40 pm

Ballmer is finding out that you can't buy a championship. Lue is the least of his problems.

baldur · Post #6 » by **baldur** » Thu Mar 23, 2023 8:40 pm

it is on george and kawhi who even take turns for the **** load management thing.

skones · Post #7 » by **skones** » Thu Mar 23, 2023 8:48 pm

OkcSinceSGA wrote:
Can you blame Ballmer? He’s spent an absurd amount of $ for this roster, with extremely poor ROI. Outside of one respectable 2021 run, they’ve had 3 years of total failure with this core. One bubble choke, one missing the playoffs, this year first round exit, maybe even miss the playoffs.

I think if they don’t win it next year, you go into the new arena with an entirely new core.

Well yes. Lost in 19-20, Kawhi hurt in 20-21, No Kawhi in 21-22, then George sprains his knee down the stretch in 22-23. What exactly is Lue supposed to do here?

Kawhi's injury issues weren't exactly new or a surprise when Ballmer spent the cash.

Post #8 » by **Mavrelous** » Thu Mar 23, 2023 8:50 pm

Lockdown504090 wrote:
Mavrelous wrote:Ballmer about to find out what his like had to find out before him, there are limitations to endless line of credit in the NBA, and you can't shortcut your way into a dynasty.

what does what you said have to do with injuries? who wins without their one of their all nba players?

You can't sign Kawhi an act surprised when he's injured, besides dude is paying the highest payroll in history.

anotherhomer · Post #9 » by **anotherhomer** » Thu Mar 23, 2023 8:52 pm

Karma

JonFromVA · Post #10 » by **JonFromVA** » Thu Mar 23, 2023 8:53 pm

OkcSinceSGA wrote:Can you blame Ballmer?

Absolutely. I mean, am I reading this right?

Lawrence Frank is running the team?

All the money in the world, and Ballmer replaced Doc Rivers with Frank?

Godymas · Post #11 » by **Godymas** » Thu Mar 23, 2023 8:53 pm

There is very little to like about the Clippers, they are not different from the Nets except they didn't sign guys that are big on drama and fussy and all that like Kyrie/KD

They need to home grow a real team again. How many people are even drafted on the current Clippers? At least in the Lob City era, Blake was their generational talent they grew, plus DJ. CP3 was the smart free agent signing. They need to rebuild in that kind of way, picking up good pieces with high draft picks and then finding the right star to sign as a FA to push them to contention. This is the right way to build a team rather than trying to get the biggest names on the market. More teams have had success this way than the Clippers/Nets method

OkcSinceSGA · Post #12 » by **OkcSinceSGA** » Thu Mar 23, 2023 8:55 pm

JonFromVA wrote:
OkcSinceSGA wrote:Can you blame Ballmer?

Absolutely. I mean, am I reading this right?

Lawrence Frank is running the team?

All the money in the world, and Ballmer replaced Doc Rivers with Frank?

Can you blame Ballmer for being upset I mean. Ballmer is a very hands off owner. He lets the guys he hires make decisions in their roles. Not sure how it’s his fault if Frank, Lue, players underachieve. all an owner can realistically do is open up the pocketbook and maintain a professional, safe culture. He’s done that.

What’s sad is if they rebuild, the chances of landing a superstar rookie like SGA tier are slim to none.

-Luke- · Post #13 » by **-Luke-** » Thu Mar 23, 2023 9:06 pm

Godymas wrote:There is very little to like about the Clippers, they are not different from the Nets except they didn't sign guys that are big on drama and fussy and all that like Kyrie/KD

They need to home grow a real team again. How many people are even drafted on the current Clippers? At least in the Lob City era, Blake was their generational talent they grew, plus DJ. CP3 was the smart free agent signing. They need to rebuild in that kind of way, picking up good pieces with high draft picks and then finding the right star to sign as a FA to push them to contention. This is the right way to build a team rather than trying to get the biggest names on the market. More teams have had success this way than the Clippers/Nets method

Agree with the basic premise, but OKC would pick up the high draft picks for the next four drafts if I see it correctly.

Dominator83 · Post #14 » by **Dominator83** » Thu Mar 23, 2023 9:06 pm

He runs the Clippers like he ran Microsoft. Incompetent

Clemenza · Post #15 » by **Clemenza** » Thu Mar 23, 2023 9:09 pm

It sounds about right especially if the season ends on a down note. The seasons not over but the so called "depth" along with the injuries crushed his lineups and decision making all season long. I knew problems were going to happen when we resigned RoCo but didn't immediately trade Morris to another team and of course that's been an issue all season long. It also seems like Lue was upset that they traded his guy Reggie away. People forget John Wall was on this team and had a small era unto itself.. Lol. Now Russ has been added to the mix. The youth movement put on hold yet again. Kawhi out early in the season and now PG out for an extended time. In the end all that load managing doesn't even mean sh*t. Its been a sh*t show of a season

ANTETOKOUNBROS · Post #16 » by **ANTETOKOUNBROS** » Thu Mar 23, 2023 9:21 pm

SGA would look really good right now.

JonFromVA · Post #17 » by **JonFromVA** » Thu Mar 23, 2023 9:24 pm

OkcSinceSGA wrote:
JonFromVA wrote:
OkcSinceSGA wrote:Can you blame Ballmer?

Absolutely. I mean, am I reading this right?

Lawrence Frank is running the team?

All the money in the world, and Ballmer replaced Doc Rivers with Frank?

Can you blame Ballmer for being upset I mean. Ballmer is a very hands off owner. He lets the guys he hires make decisions in their roles. Not sure how it’s his fault if Frank, Lue, players underachieve. all an owner can realistically do is open up the pocketbook and maintain a professional, safe culture. He’s done that.

What’s sad is if they rebuild, the chances of landing a superstar rookie like SGA tier are slim to none.

Oh, that's not all he can do, not by a long shot; and even if he wanted to abrogate all his his responsibility, his biggest decision was still who he was going to let run things and for how long.

CS707 · Post #18 » by **CS707** » Thu Mar 23, 2023 9:29 pm

Lue isn't the resilient guy around, is he?

chilluminati · Post #19 » by **chilluminati** » Thu Mar 23, 2023 9:30 pm

When you invest in injury prone stars, you get injured stars, a lot.

Johnny Bball · Post #20 » by **Johnny Bball** » Thu Mar 23, 2023 9:33 pm

re: Lue, Hate to say I told you so, but...

But lets face it. This core was doomed by the price OKC held Toronto and LAC to. Toronto was pissed off and declined on George. LAC paid the price. It was a price that handcuffed the franchise for the entire run. And that... you can blame Kawhi for most of it really. He just had to have faith they could add a quality player without making it one and one player only. They guys that came up the following years they could have added ... wow. They would have won a title keeping SGA and trading picks for a star instead. The rest of the blame is on Balmer for his impatience. He should fire himself with Lue.