2023 NBA Draft – Thurs, 8PM, June 22

[threrf23]

Don't know if he's a late 2nd round pick or a FA pickup, but I want Markquis Nowell. He's 5'8 and I don't care, kid is good.

[Kalela]

Donovan Clingan (7'2" Freshman center for Uconn) may end up becoming a decent big - first round talent - in few years.

Don't know if he's a late 2nd round pick or a FA pickup, but I want Markquis Nowell. He's 5'8 and I don't care, kid is good.

Smart player but his size will always be an issue for him.

[djFan71]

Rooting for ORL tonight against the Knicks. They're only 2 wins behind POR. If HOU, POR and ORL (and possibly a coin flip or 2) cooperate it's not inconceivable we could get 33 & 35.

Thanks ORL. Now we gotta get WAS to not suck for at least a few games. Might be the tougher ask, tbh.

[165bows]

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[Hal14]

Noah Clowney with the 33rd pick.

Need houston to overtake the spurs so we get that 33rd pick. Right now houston is 1 game back of SA.

[Patsfan1081]

Rooting for ORL tonight against the Knicks. They're only 2 wins behind POR. If HOU, POR and ORL (and possibly a coin flip or 2) cooperate it's not inconceivable we could get 33 & 35.

Thanks ORL. Now we gotta get WAS to not suck for at least a few games. Might be the tougher ask, tbh.

Ive never paid attention, are second round picks based off the lottery results also or final record?

[Patsfan1081]

Noah Clowney with the 33rd pick.

Need houston to overtake the spurs so we get that 33rd pick. Right now houston is 1 game back of SA.

I know its only a couple games but he has looked pretty bad in the tourney, including a three point effort in their knockout game.

[djFan71]

Rooting for ORL tonight against the Knicks. They're only 2 wins behind POR. If HOU, POR and ORL (and possibly a coin flip or 2) cooperate it's not inconceivable we could get 33 & 35.

Thanks ORL. Now we gotta get WAS to not suck for at least a few games. Might be the tougher ask, tbh.

Ive never paid attention, are second round picks based off the lottery results also or final record?

I wasn't sure either, but always thought just standings, not lottery. I asked a few months ago and someone else confirmed that. So, 2 RGM posters think it's true. Pretty much gotta be right.

[Hal14]

Noah Clowney with the 33rd pick.

Need houston to overtake the spurs so we get that 33rd pick. Right now houston is 1 game back of SA.

I know its only a couple games but he has looked pretty bad in the tourney, including a three point effort in their knockout game.

Good, that might mean he actually falls to the 33rd pick.

This guy is gonna be a stud. Look how fast and how fluid he is moving for a 6'10" big man who's doesn't even turn 19 for another few months.

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One reason I'm so high on Clowney is because it's so rare these days to find a big who can literally play alongside any other big (or as the C alongside a smaller 4). Clowney has the potential to be that very rare breed. A guy with the quickness/mobility (as shown in clip above) who's also shown flashes of shooting and attacking closeouts and switching onto perimeter) all things you look for in a 4 (while at the same time has good size at 6'10" and posted good rebound and shot block %, along with a toughness / physicality in the way he plays and battles in the paint to play the 5.

[big-shot-ROB]

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Pipe dream draftee if he falls to the 2nd round. RWIII insurance. But he won't be there

[djFan71]

Good day for the POR pick, ORL won and POR lost. They’re tied with 32 wins now for 35th pick.

SAS lost to us, HOU couldn’t capitalize, but at least they’re still only 1 win back.

[playa-hater]

At this point I don't know how deep this draft is or not but having 2 pics in the top 6 or 7 in round 2 is borderline having 2 late 1st round picks in my opinion.

Give me the best 2 players between 6'8 and 7ft ...

No midgets please..

[Smart2Nesmith43]

Good day for the POR pick, ORL won and POR lost. They’re tied with 32 wins now for 35th pick.

SAS lost to us, HOU couldn’t capitalize, but at least they’re still only 1 win back.

Portland about to shut down Lillard too. They might not win anonther game.

At this point I don't know how deep this draft is or not but having 2 pics in the top 6 or 7 in round 2 is borderline having 2 late 1st round picks in my opinion.

Give me the best 2 players between 6'8 and 7ft ...

No midgets please..

After watching Stevens complain about the lack of size of his teams for his entire coaching tenure and then spend his first two years as a basketball executive only acquiring guys with plus positional size, I really don't think we need to worry about him drafting midgets.

[Hal14]

Good day for the POR pick, ORL won and POR lost. They’re tied with 32 wins now for 35th pick.

SAS lost to us, HOU couldn’t capitalize, but at least they’re still only 1 win back.

Portland about to shut down Lillard too. They might not win anonther game.

At this point I don't know how deep this draft is or not but having 2 pics in the top 6 or 7 in round 2 is borderline having 2 late 1st round picks in my opinion.

Give me the best 2 players between 6'8 and 7ft ...

No midgets please..

After watching Stevens complain about the lack of size of his teams for his entire coaching tenure and then spend his first two years as a basketball executive only acquiring guys with plus positional size, I really don't think we need to worry about him drafting midgets.

Yup. He drafted JD at 6'3". I think that's the shortest guy we would take. And with how deep we were in the back court - and that depth even causing some issues where Pritchard has said he wants to get traded so he can get more playing time - plus JD developing nicely with a solid season in the G league, I doubt we take a PG in this draft.

Positions 2 through 5 are a possibility, though.

[playa-hater]

Good day for the POR pick, ORL won and POR lost. They’re tied with 32 wins now for 35th pick.

SAS lost to us, HOU couldn’t capitalize, but at least they’re still only 1 win back.

Portland about to shut down Lillard too. They might not win anonther game.

At this point I don't know how deep this draft is or not but having 2 pics in the top 6 or 7 in round 2 is borderline having 2 late 1st round picks in my opinion.

Give me the best 2 players between 6'8 and 7ft ...

No midgets please..

After watching Stevens complain about the lack of size of his teams for his entire coaching tenure and then spend his first two years as a basketball executive only acquiring guys with plus positional size, I really don't think we need to worry about him drafting midgets.

I am suffering from PTSD of drafting "little guys" (thanks Danny).. so until I see it...

[playa-hater]

Good day for the POR pick, ORL won and POR lost. They’re tied with 32 wins now for 35th pick.

SAS lost to us, HOU couldn’t capitalize, but at least they’re still only 1 win back.

Portland about to shut down Lillard too. They might not win anonther game.

At this point I don't know how deep this draft is or not but having 2 pics in the top 6 or 7 in round 2 is borderline having 2 late 1st round picks in my opinion.

Give me the best 2 players between 6'8 and 7ft ...

No midgets please..

After watching Stevens complain about the lack of size of his teams for his entire coaching tenure and then spend his first two years as a basketball executive only acquiring guys with plus positional size, I really don't think we need to worry about him drafting midgets.

Yup. He drafted JD at 6'3". I think that's the shortest guy we would take. And with how deep we were in the back court - and that depth even causing some issues where Pritchard has said he wants to get traded so he can get more playing time - plus JD developing nicely with a solid season in the G league, I doubt we take a PG in this draft.

Positions 2 through 5 are a possibility, though.

Even drafting a 2 is probably not best. On a team where Brown D White and hopefully soon Begarin, there will be Zero playing time. Where as a Bigger player can easily get time to develop over Blake, Kornet and possibly over Grant if he walks.. That and Tatum and Hauser are our only Bigger Wings..

My Idea; scenario would be a 3-4 combo and a athletic Big.

[Hal14]

Portland about to shut down Lillard too. They might not win anonther game.


After watching Stevens complain about the lack of size of his teams for his entire coaching tenure and then spend his first two years as a basketball executive only acquiring guys with plus positional size, I really don't think we need to worry about him drafting midgets.

Yup. He drafted JD at 6'3". I think that's the shortest guy we would take. And with how deep we were in the back court - and that depth even causing some issues where Pritchard has said he wants to get traded so he can get more playing time - plus JD developing nicely with a solid season in the G league, I doubt we take a PG in this draft.

Positions 2 through 5 are a possibility, though.

Even drafting a 2 is probably not best. On a team where Brown D White and hopefully soon Begarin, there will be Zero playing time. Where as a Bigger player can easily get time to develop over Blake, Kornet and possibly over Grant if he walks.. That and Tatum and Hauser are our only Bigger Wings..

My Idea; scenario would be a 3-4 combo and a athletic Big.

I hear ya. And out of the 4 positions, 2 is the one I'm least interested in.

But more than likely, we're not drafting a guy who's gonna contribute anything in year 1. You're likely looking at someone who won't contribute till year 2 - or even year 3. By that time, we may have different needs on the roster.

And Begarin might come over at some point but there's also a chance that he never comes over. He's got to figure his shot out. Last 3 seasons:

2023 26.9% from 3
2022 30.9% from 3
2021 34.2% from 3

His shooting has gotten worse each year..

With that being said, if we got a 2, you're ideally getting a guy who can play both the 2 and the 3..

[165bows]

Yup. He drafted JD at 6'3". I think that's the shortest guy we would take. And with how deep we were in the back court - and that depth even causing some issues where Pritchard has said he wants to get traded so he can get more playing time - plus JD developing nicely with a solid season in the G league, I doubt we take a PG in this draft.

Positions 2 through 5 are a possibility, though.

Even drafting a 2 is probably not best. On a team where Brown D White and hopefully soon Begarin, there will be Zero playing time. Where as a Bigger player can easily get time to develop over Blake, Kornet and possibly over Grant if he walks.. That and Tatum and Hauser are our only Bigger Wings..

My Idea; scenario would be a 3-4 combo and a athletic Big.

I hear ya. And out of the 4 positions, 2 is the one I'm least interested in.

But more than likely, we're not drafting a guy who's gonna contribute anything in year 1. You're likely looking at someone who won't contribute till year 2 - or even year 3. By that time, we may have different needs on the roster.

And Begarin might come over at some point but there's also a chance that he never comes over. He's got to figure his shot out. Last 3 seasons:

2023 26.9% from 3
2022 30.9% from 3
2021 34.2% from 3

His shooting has gotten worse each year..

With that being said, if we got a 2, you're ideally getting a guy who can play both the 2 and the 3..

It’s worth noting despite two-guard being the deepest position on the team, there isn’t one single guy on the team that is a pure two. Brown spends half his time at three while Brogdon and White are borderline starter level at the one. I def wouldn’t expect a pure two guard.

The roster issue is a real thing though imo. Not much space for a second round guy to make the roster let alone the path to the rotation.

Still going to navel gaze about finding a diamond in the rough tho lol.

[165bows]

Actually never thought of it this way before. But for those who know how the team describes positions (ie, not 1-5, but four groups and inc. ballhandlers, wings, swings, and bigs) I think it is more the two spot that is dropped than the four (which I and I think most others have tended to assume).

[Smart2Nesmith43]

Yup. He drafted JD at 6'3". I think that's the shortest guy we would take. And with how deep we were in the back court - and that depth even causing some issues where Pritchard has said he wants to get traded so he can get more playing time - plus JD developing nicely with a solid season in the G league, I doubt we take a PG in this draft.

Positions 2 through 5 are a possibility, though.

Even drafting a 2 is probably not best. On a team where Brown D White and hopefully soon Begarin, there will be Zero playing time. Where as a Bigger player can easily get time to develop over Blake, Kornet and possibly over Grant if he walks.. That and Tatum and Hauser are our only Bigger Wings..

My Idea; scenario would be a 3-4 combo and a athletic Big.

I hear ya. And out of the 4 positions, 2 is the one I'm least interested in.

But more than likely, we're not drafting a guy who's gonna contribute anything in year 1. You're likely looking at someone who won't contribute till year 2 - or even year 3. By that time, we may have different needs on the roster.

And Begarin might come over at some point but there's also a chance that he never comes over. He's got to figure his shot out. Last 3 seasons:

2023 26.9% from 3
2022 30.9% from 3
2021 34.2% from 3

His shooting has gotten worse each year..

With that being said, if we got a 2, you're ideally getting a guy who can play both the 2 and the 3..

Seeing Begarin live the other day was eye opening. He couldn't even make shots consistently in warm ups. Maybe Ben Sullivan can work some magic on him and turn him into a NBA level shooter but I wouldn't hold my breath. It's a shame too because the rest of his game would absolutely translate.

The Celtics front office really shouldn't operate under the assumption that they need to keep a roster spot open to make room for Begarin next year or further down the line.