Game #75: PELICANS @ Clippers Saturday 3/25 7:30PM

[Dynamix]

Feel sorry for Morris, can only imagine what kinds of messages he's been getting after such a rough stretch. Pretty sure he knows that he's cooked, but it's not his fault for being put in this position night after night.

In a recent podcast appearance, Ty said he's been dealing with some major personal tragedy these past few months. Maybe deep down he just wants to take a break from the grind, after three seasons of trying to figure out how to win a chip with two stars that for whatever reason just can't stay healthy for long stretches.

[esqtvd]

something's gotta give

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As upset as I am at Morris' crappy performance I would never send threats like that. Yes we may get upset but at the end of the day it is just a game. Eye test or plus/minus be damned

I've never denied MM's in a deep slump--only that the alternatives aren't that great either. Batum has just had his best two games in a month and board pet [and Clipper Nation fave] T-Mann put up 5/1/2 in 20 minutes tonight, almost as pathetic as Marcus.

But I do think Marcus is now officially a basket case mentally and I won't deny he was particularly wooden tonight on defense. He only took 3 shots, ffs--he's well aware of the criticism and at least isn't going to put up a 1-8 night...like RoCo did just 2 games ago.

And now closing off his Instagram comments is another indication that Marcus is shutting down and not even trying to fight his way out like Reggie and Mann did after THEIR demotions. Something's gotta give.

[Scoundreldays]

something's gotta give

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As upset as I am at Morris' crappy performance I would never send threats like that. Yes we may get upset but at the end of the day it is just a game. Eye test or plus/minus be damned

I've never denied MM's in a deep slump--only that the alternatives aren't that great either. Batum has just had his best two games in a month and board pet [and Clipper Nation fave] T-Mann put up 5/1/2 in 20 minutes tonight, almost as pathetic as Marcus.

But I do think Marcus is now officially a basket case mentally and I won't deny he was particularly wooden tonight on defense. He only took 3 shots, ffs--he's well aware of the criticism and at least isn't going to put up a 1-8 night...like RoCo did just 2 games ago.

And now closing off his Instagram comments is another indication that Marcus is shutting down and not even trying to fight his way out like Reggie and Mann did after THEIR demotions. Something's gotta give.

Agree on the basket case, I have noticed he is hesitating to take shots he would instantly shoot in the past. Like I said someone needs to step up outside of Kawhi like Morris and Reggie did in 2021.

[Clemenza]

Feel sorry for Morris, can only imagine what kinds of messages he's been getting after such a rough stretch. Pretty sure he knows that he's cooked, but it's not his fault for being put in this position night after night.

In a recent podcast appearance, Ty said he's been dealing with some major personal tragedy these past few months. Maybe deep down he just wants to take a break from the grind, after three seasons of trying to figure out how to win a chip with two stars that for whatever reason just can't stay healthy for long stretches.

Exactly, Morris is beyond washed but its not his fault that Lue keeps wheel barrowing him out there and allowing his career and ire from the fans to continue to tank into oblivion. Its kind of sad actually. Its like a social experiment or something

[esqtvd]

Feel sorry for Morris, can only imagine what kinds of messages he's been getting after such a rough stretch. Pretty sure he knows that he's cooked, but it's not his fault for being put in this position night after night.

In a recent podcast appearance, Ty said he's been dealing with some major personal tragedy these past few months. Maybe deep down he just wants to take a break from the grind, after three seasons of trying to figure out how to win a chip with two stars that for whatever reason just can't stay healthy for long stretches.

Yeah, well that's a bingo. The Kawhi-PG era has not been enjoyable for any stretch of even 10 games or more. I liked winning 50 games every year with Lob City and taking our chances in the playoffs. In the Kawhi-PG era, we don't even get a decent regular season and it still goes to hell with injuries in the playoffs anyway.

This is YEAR FOUR of this shtt. He's supposed to be the captain of a great ship but Ty has done nothing but do plumbing down in a leaky engine room. 25 different starting lineups in 75 games? Something like that. And 3 rotation guys join the team after the All-Star break?

Westbrook
Gordon
Plumlee

PLUS Powell is out? And somehow this is all TY'S fault??

[esqtvd]

As upset as I am at Morris' crappy performance I would never send threats like that. Yes we may get upset but at the end of the day it is just a game. Eye test or plus/minus be damned

I've never denied MM's in a deep slump--only that the alternatives aren't that great either. Batum has just had his best two games in a month and board pet [and Clipper Nation fave] T-Mann put up 5/1/2 in 20 minutes tonight, almost as pathetic as Marcus.

But I do think Marcus is now officially a basket case mentally and I won't deny he was particularly wooden tonight on defense. He only took 3 shots, ffs--he's well aware of the criticism and at least isn't going to put up a 1-8 night...like RoCo did just 2 games ago.

And now closing off his Instagram comments is another indication that Marcus is shutting down and not even trying to fight his way out like Reggie and Mann did after THEIR demotions. Something's gotta give.

Agree on the basket case, I have noticed he is hesitating to take shots he would instantly shoot in the past. Like I said someone needs to step up outside of Kawhi like Morris and Reggie did in 2021.

Well, the fact is, just shttcanning Morris was not going to solve it either. He wants to earn his money, and Ty needs minutes at the 4.

At least with PG on the floor, we were trading water, and better than that, even.



So let's not pretend every game has been like tonight's, and frankly I don't see how the PF gets the blame here. That's just a cheap and easy scapegoat. Mann did no better. 5/1/2 tonight in 20 minutes.


That said, closing comments on his Instagram account says Marcus IS giving up mentally. He IS broken. Something has to give. We are now in panic mode. Marcus needs a groin pull about now. Been playing hurt. Out for a few games.

[The High Cyde]

I’m sure Morris is trying his best out there, but he’s done, and that falls squarely on Lue to save him and maybe the remainder of the season as well by reducing or cutting his minutes altogether, I mean it’s obvious he wouldn’t start on any other team in the league, or even be a contributor off the bench for most, but Lue can’t really even be bothered to bench him. I can’t be mad at Morris here.

[esqtvd]

I’m sure Morris is trying his best out there, but he’s done, and that falls squarely on Lue to save him and maybe the remainder of the season as well by reducing or cutting his minutes altogether, I mean it’s obvious he wouldn’t start on any other team in the league, or even be a contributor off the bench for most, but Lue can’t really even be bothered to bench him. I can’t be mad at Morris here.

Mad at Ty? The alternatives are no more promising. And it's not as if we haven't been getting killed by these guys even in the best of times.

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Then 34-year-old 6'4" Gordon in for PG isn't gonna hurt you speedwise AND heightwise against a young athletic team that's already been blowing by us?

So Marcus gets the woof. All over the internet--not just here, Twitter, Instagram. All of Clipper Nation has made him the scapegoat. Now he seems to be giving up mentally, spiritually.


Nobody will remember a post I made awhile back, that Ballmer should eat his contract and just buy him out, with still another $20M guaranteed. That would have shaken the Clippers' tree. And make no mistake, if Ty benches him now, it's not worth the disruption to try to work Marcus into the second unit.

Play him or bury him. Clipper Nation is overwhelmingly for the latter. Did Marcus lose us tonight's game? Oh, please.

[Dynamix]

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[esqtvd]

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See above. Marcus has lost his confidence? You don't say? Then you would trash him if he missed. And slime him on his Instagram account?

I'm amazed that these guys can even step on the floor every night. Some can't even.


Kicking Marcus while he's down now is redundant.
he only shot 3 times in 22 minutes

what you should be asking is why T-Mann only shot twice in 20

Terance Mann is the future."

remember that one?


there's a weird culture going on here and frankly I think it's from Kawhi
who shot 4-16 and then went off to the locker room in the 3rd quarter with a "facial contusion"

when it was HIM who was stinking up the joint? MINUS-20? It's YOUR team Kawhi. Hand-picked.

I remember when...



"Facial contusion" my ass. Austin sucked but never quit. I'm from Philly. I don't care how much Austin sucked, he never quit. That's how I was raised. Kawhi means nothing to me.

[Captain Ballmer]

I just stop watching them after the horrendeus Warriors game on SF. But still hanging around for gamethreads and boxscores... Oh boy after couple weeks don't even wanna see them anymore. Waiting to be over this 213 tenure, coaching and FO.

[esqtvd]

I just stop watching them after the horrendeus Warriors game on SF. But still hanging around for gamethreads and boxscores... Oh boy after couple weeks don't even wanna see them anymore. Waiting to be over this 213 tenure, coaching and FO.

well ok so maybe you shouldn't come around here as captain ballmer anymore because this is Ballmer's team

BALLMER stalked and signed Kawhi and traded the next decade of draft picks for PG to get him

and traded Shai
and humiliated Blake Griffin
And Tobias
And Lou
And Trezz
And Bev
And Reggie
And Luke

dumped like dogs

Yeah you should leave

Ballmer isn't the savior
he's the disaster
change your name

[Dynamix]

There's not an owner in this league that wouldn't have jumped at the chance to get Kawhi and PG if presented with that same opportunity. And Ballmer also stepped in to get rid of Doc when no one else would, so his +/- is still solid in my book.

[Captain Ballmer]

I just stop watching them after the horrendeus Warriors game on SF. But still hanging around for gamethreads and boxscores... Oh boy after couple weeks don't even wanna see them anymore. Waiting to be over this 213 tenure, coaching and FO.

well ok so maybe you shouldn't come around here as captain ballmer anymore because this is Ballmer's team

BALLMER stalked and signed Kawhi and traded the next decade of draft picks for PG to get him

and traded Shai
and humiliated Blake Griffin
And Tobias
And Lou
And Trezz
And Bev
And Reggie
And Luke

dumped like dogs

Yeah you should leave

Ballmer isn't the savior
he's the disaster
change your name

Piss off. Remember I'm from Europe and watching Clippers games live means cutting my sleep early. I definitely don't need that for this product

Ballmer takeover still the best thing happened to this franchise. He roll the dice with 213. It didn't work. As an owner witnessing the end of Lob city, understandable to take a shortcut and spending tons of luxury money to make it work. My fear is Ballmer might stick with this decision longer than he should(no chance to recover) because of the new arena opening. His hardest quest still hasn't occured. If it would up to me I'ld give him the second chance in a heartbeat.

Firing T.Lue, or Benching Morris won't change the outlook of this tenure. This summer we need Brooklyn style(Clippers style in 2017?) haul&rebuild a young, energetic team plays hard like in 2018 would be welcomed by majority of Clippers Supporters familier with this style quiet a long time. New FO, coach and start building with our own talent, no star trades etc.

[TrueLAfan]

Easy game to be pissed about.

Ballmer's ownership is a plus. We took a shot and it didn't pay off. That sucks. But I'd still say it had a lot more to do with the sharper than expected decline in availability of the two stars we got than anything else. Not so easy to predict.

Change? We'll see. A part of me wants PG to come back mid first round and have enough impact to get us to the conference finals. It could happen. But there's only a part of me that wants that because this team, as currently constructed, can't get a ring. At full health, with maximum luck ... we're still less than 50/50. Just my .02 on that.

[NickP]

How idiotic is the argument that Ty doesn't have options? Ty had all the options available on the roster. Today's NBA is far removed from the NBA of the past where teams had definite positions. Why are we so hung up on Morris being a PF and that Lue doesn't have a true PF that he can substitute Morris with?
It's a cop out to say that Lue doesn't have options.
It's a stupid argument to bring up Mann's numbers and compare them to Morris'. Morris has received consistent minutes all season long. The same can't be said about RoCo. So we're supposed to compare RoCo's stats with Morris'?
Very idiotic to say RoCo is not the answer when the guy is mostly stapled to the bench and suddenly expected to perform miracles in limited minutes and that too with zero consistency.

[Wammy Giveaway]

This summer we need Brooklyn style haul and rebuild a young, energetic team plays hard like in 2018 would be welcomed by majority of Clippers supporters familiar with this style quiet a long time. New Front Office, coach and start building with our own talent, no star trades etc.

On a reply to a Tyronn Lue rumor in The General Board, I suggested that Clippers attempt the Apocalypse Rebuild. Get rid of every player, coaching staff and front office employee with NBA experience and bring in fresh new blood. The catch is they can only go after players who are undrafted, overseas, or in the G-League provided they have never played an NBA game before. Draft picks, sell them, trade them, stash them. Coaching staff and front office employees, same deal: overseas, G-League or NCAA. The premise is the Clippers always screw up because they want to be loved, respected and worshiped like Lakers; jealousy gets in the way. You've seen how they mismanage draft picks, bring in the wrong coaches, and players who are damaged goods, knuckleheads or straight-up DNPs. Instead, just bring in people that will fit your desired image without the need for them to be NBA-ready.

More importantly, Clippers will be barred from going after any NBA person again until they can prove worthy of themselves. Such as making the playoffs - better, winning a playoff series with such a ragtag roster. Clippers have always been about the underdog, time they embrace it with an NBA-less franchise.

Would this be an avenue Clippers should consider, Captain, even if they end up missing the playoffs for a few years?

[Roscoe Sheed]

I attended this game and when you're at the game you realize how bad the spacing is with the starting line up because you have 2 non-shooters in Westbrook and Zubac and now a 3rd who just won't shoot in Morris. It is like Kawhi is operating in a phone booth.

Something has to change- like going with a 3 guard line up or at least try Covington- he is not a reluctant shooter and is a better defender than Morris.

On a side note, it was frustrating that the Pelicans stayed red hot all game. Kind of ridiculous. True, the defense was relatively poor, but to make 21 three pointers with 62% accuracy is outrageous.

[Clemenza]

This summer we need Brooklyn style haul and rebuild a young, energetic team plays hard like in 2018 would be welcomed by majority of Clippers supporters familiar with this style quiet a long time. New Front Office, coach and start building with our own talent, no star trades etc.

On a reply to a Tyronn Lue rumor in The General Board, I suggested that Clippers attempt the Apocalypse Rebuild. Get rid of every player, coaching staff and front office employee with NBA experience and bring in fresh new blood. The catch is they can only go after players who are undrafted, overseas, or in the G-League provided they have never played an NBA game before. Draft picks, sell them, trade them, stash them. Coaching staff and front office employees, same deal: overseas, G-League or NCAA. The premise is the Clippers always screw up because they want to be loved, respected and worshiped like Lakers; jealousy gets in the way. You've seen how they mismanage draft picks, bring in the wrong coaches, and players who are damaged goods, knuckleheads or straight-up DNPs. Instead, just bring in people that will fit your desired image without the need for them to be NBA-ready.

More importantly, Clippers will be barred from going after any NBA person again until they can prove worthy of themselves. Such as making the playoffs - better, winning a playoff series with such a ragtag roster. Clippers have always been about the underdog, time they embrace it with an NBA-less franchise.

Would this be an avenue Clippers should consider, Captain, even if they end up missing the playoffs for a few years?

The getting rid of every player in one offseason is not allowed and is illegal in the NBA. They invented the "'cap hold" rule to prevent an owner or front office from doing this.

[esqtvd]

I just stop watching them after the horrendeus Warriors game on SF. But still hanging around for gamethreads and boxscores... Oh boy after couple weeks don't even wanna see them anymore. Waiting to be over this 213 tenure, coaching and FO.

well ok so maybe you shouldn't come around here as captain ballmer anymore because this is Ballmer's team

BALLMER stalked and signed Kawhi and traded the next decade of draft picks for PG to get him

and traded Shai
and humiliated Blake Griffin
And Tobias
And Lou
And Trezz
And Bev
And Reggie
And Luke

dumped like dogs

Yeah you should leave

Ballmer isn't the savior
he's the disaster
change your name

Piss off. Remember I'm from Europe and watching Clippers games live means cutting my sleep early. I definitely don't need that for this product

Ballmer takeover still the best thing happened to this franchise. He roll the dice with 213. It didn't work. As an owner witnessing the end of Lob city, understandable to take a shortcut and spending tons of luxury money to make it work. My fear is Ballmer might stick with this decision longer than he should(no chance to recover) because of the new arena opening. His hardest quest still hasn't occured. If it would up to me I'ld give him the second chance in a heartbeat.

Firing T.Lue, or Benching Morris won't change the outlook of this tenure. This summer we need Brooklyn style(Clippers style in 2017?) haul&rebuild a young, energetic team plays hard like in 2018 would be welcomed by majority of Clippers Supporters familier with this style quiet a long time. New FO, coach and start building with our own talent, no star trades etc.

Piss off? OK, tough guy.

Backing up the truck and cutting everyone else's throat looks like the only way now. Enjoy.

But make no mistake--this is BALLMER'S doing. It's Ballmer's team, from cutting CP loose [who still had 3 good years left in him] to re-signing Griffin [whom he unceremoniously dumped a few months later] to firing Doc to shamelessly stalking Kawhi for a YEAR then trading away our draft future for the next decade. [And Shai.]

It all seemed a good idea at that time but Ballmer also took a lot of criticism for starting in the pole position with Microsoft but getting his lunch eaten by Apple.

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/gadgets-news/watch-microsoft-ceo-steve-ballmer-laughs-at-iphone/articleshow/92539357.cms

So here we are. I'm not a fan of how Ballmer does business. He kicked too many guys to the curb who sweated blood for the Clippers without a how-you-do. I won't even mention their names again but let's just say that Ballmer's Clippers are not a "family," and if I were one of them I wouldn't shake his hand either.

Blame Ty all you want but this club needs a heart transplant, not a new brain. Ballmerville is a corporation, not a team. As Ricky Watters infamously said in Philly, "For who? For what?"