165bows wrote:Feed Your Head wrote:From early preseason/training camp, and this hasn’t changed in the least. He’s so far ahead of the curve as a playmaker and reading defenses.
The Comedian wrote:So I’ll share this here, but last week I mentioned to a few posters that JD apparently is….miles ahead of where they were expecting.
I don’t think he will play much at all this season, but they drafted him thinking he was 2-3 years away.
I’m not trying to get all crazy here but I’d be interested in someone rational/knowledgeable doing a scouting and analytic comp between Davison and Scoot. Same league, similar size, ages are pretty close. Would be pretty interesting compare and contrast imo.
From what I have seen of both of them this season...
-Scoot about a year younger
-JD about an inch taller
-Athleticism, I'd probably say they're about even honestly
-I'd say Scoot's handle is a little bit tighter
-Both around same 3 pt%. However, Scoot seems to be better at hitting tough shots - off the dribble. And shows more comfort and ability knocking down mid range jumpers. However, Scoot shot really poorly towards the end of the season (only 21% over his last 9 games from 3. Only 27% over his last 20 games) but some of that could be attributed to a nagging injury he had. Both shot about the same volume from 3 (JD slightly higher), Scoot shot a little better from FT line. JD shot better from 3 last season than Scoot (to try and look at more than just a 1 year sample) so all in all, they're close as shooters but I'd give Scoot a slight edge in projecting him as a shooter, just because he's a year younger. But if Ben Sullivan can work his magic, that can negate any slight advantage as a shooter that Scoot has
-JD seems to play a little more passive on both ends of the floor, whereas Scoot plays with more assertiveness and more force. He'll more aggressively + confidently rise up into his mid range pull-up, put it between his legs to stick the step back 3 in the defender's eye, explode to the rim or aggressively go up to the block the shot of a bigger player. For the most part, this difference is an advantage for Scoot BUT there's times when it gets Scoot into trouble where he's so aggressive/confident out there, that he ends up forcing shots or making turnovers cause he's being too flashy or trying to make a play that's too audacious, rather than making the simple play. JD seems to be a little more calm, cool, collected out there. Might not make some of the plays Scoot does (due to Scoot playing with more force/confidence/aggressiveness) but it also means JD plays with more poise, more relaxed, shows more patience, with letting a play develop, letting his roll man get open, not forcing things so much, not forcing a jumper early in the shot lock - instead, working the ball around a little more to get a good shot. Because of this difference between them, Scoot has the higher ceiling, more star potential (especially since he's a year younger) but he's also more likely to make some plays that make you want to rip your hair out lol
-Defensively, again - Scoot makes some plays (making a highlight reel steal or block) that sometimes JD won't because Scoot plays with more force/aggressiveness/confidence). And sometimes JD will get beat off the dribble or get caught ball watching off the ball. BUT when you look at their analytics, JD's defensive rating is a few points better. Might just be because he's on a better team, though. Overall, defensively, I give Scoot a tiny edge - plus, being a year younger helps..
-JD this season: 32.5% assist rate on a 18.8% usage, with a 22.5% turnover rate. Scoot: 31.6% assist rate on a 27.9% usage rate with a 17.1% turnover rate. So both with basically the same assist rate (an insanely high assist rate which is very encouraging for both of them) but JD's assist rate is a tiny bit higher - despite having a much lower assist rate. You have to love having an assist rate that high with a usage rate that low for JD. I also like having the lower usage guy - tells me that he's not as ball dominant which is good. On the downside, JD does turn it over a bit more than Scoot, despite having a much lower usage. So JD has to cut down on the turnovers. This doesn't really match the eye test - since I was saying earlier in the post how JD seems to play more poised, more methodical as opposed to Scoot who plays more aggressive which can sometimes lead to some wild turnovers. I guess I just haven't seen as many full games for Maine - have mainly just watched the 5-10 minute highlight vids. JD has to cut down on the turnovers, but his assist rate is still WAY higher than his turnover rate so I'm not too worried about it (plus, he's still just 20 yrs old)
Long story short, Scoot is the better prospect. Overall, he's a slightly better player with slightly higher upside.
But the gap is really not that big IMO. I think it'd be fun if we go against whatever team drafts Scoot in summer league. Unfortunately, we didn't play against Scoot's Ignite team this season in the g league.
One other note - Scoot did sit out nearly half if the Ignite team's games this season. He got hurt in the preseason and had nagging injuries throughout the season, missed like 2 months of the season with an injury. JD really has never gotten hurt, like at all that I'm aware of.
Bottom line, Scoot is gonna go 2 or possibly 3 in the draft. We've got a guy who's really not that far off at all from him, with the 53rd pick. Good job, Brad!
