RS 22/23 - Mavs @ Hornets (Sund, 1PM EST)

[fuller4379]

Check yourself there, bud. Bane was the 30th pick in the draft.

The Mavs was the first pick of round 2.

The Mavs could have taken Bane at 18 instead of Green but nobody projected Bane to go that high.
Now speculation at the time, the Mavs loved Terry and probably would have taken him before Bane at 31 even if Memphis wouldnt have traded up for Bane.

The whole Bane complaining is crying over spilled milk and Mavs fans need to move on.

Green is turning out to be a decent draft decision.

Exactly what I was trying to say. Almost every year you can find someone who drafter after you that got a better player. Look at the number of teams that passed on Donovan Mitchell and Giannis Antetokounmpo. Bane was not supposed to go in the top 20.

[daoneandonly]

Wait... so you're back to pre-draft hating Doncic or is this just a momentary outburst like previous 4 and a half years didn't happened?

Mavs wanted Wendell Carter Jr. and they would have DSJ as 2nd option at this point. So, which version of Mavs would have been better for the future? If you're suddenly jumping ship because this team has no real coach, horrible center and bad wing defenders, then i don't know what else to say anymore about this logic...

I hope you do realize that since 2018 this team was progressively WORSE EACH FREAKING YEAR!!! It takes a special genius to completely F...up the team like Cuban has done in these past years.

I hope you also know that Dirk wanted to leave Mavs, or you didn't know that? He said it himself in an interview but they somehow lucked into that 2011 squad and Dirk got his ring.

What does him wanting to leave have to do with anything? First off, he didn't, so its moot. Lucked into a title? Yea only a Doncic fanboy who became a Mavs fan circa 2018 would say such a thing.

I wasn't talking about Dirk's loyality. I'm talking about everyone knows he was the first one in and first one out of the gym? Is that Luka? Not unless the gym was Whataburger. Mavs never had to worry about Dirk getting so many techs that he could get suspended. Luka misses games left and right because his lack of work ethic to get himself into tip top shape.

But Luka is a superstar, there's no denying that whatsoever. So let's talk about a g league type player instead, ur boy Josh Green.

You flip flop opinions more than women do. How do i know so much about Mavs history/players and Dirk if i am a fan only from 2018? I discovered these forums around that time, that's for sure.

But anyway, I didn't say he lucked into a title, i said Mavs lucked into a promising championship team. Well they had one in 2006 but that's another story... I know when Mavs have success again you'll be singing different tunes. You already admited to Bob8 that you were wrong, but now like i said, you're caught in the moment and changing your story again.

Green without Luka/Kyrie looks like one of the most promising young wing players in the game. He averaged 17ppg on 54% FG. Dude has been great on defense aswell. But that's on coach to figure out how to involve that type of player in an actual offense when stars do play. It's like he loses all of his confidence. You really think Bane would be much better in such a static offense that Kidd is running? Maybe... maybe not.

You have a coach who prefers to develop or play scrubs like Frank, Holiday, Powell over Hardy, Green, Wood or even Maxi. Start there, start cleaning the house at the top then move all the way down to star players.

More than women do, what are you some kind of misogynist? Luka's skill level translating to the NBA, yeah I was wrong sure. His piss poor attitude, diligence to stay in shape, and poor shot selection, yeah not so wrong.

You havent proven to know anything of substance aboutt he Mavs history, so just because you say you do, doesnt prove a thing. Josh green putting up numbers in losses means what exactly? He needs to step it up.

Sure just a coincidence that you, 41Dirk, and BeauBeau whatever just happened to find these forums after Luka was drafted, sure we'll take your collective words as gold. Keep hating on Bullock but commend Green, gee I wonder what differentiates those 2 that makes you do so.

[Bob8]

What does him wanting to leave have to do with anything? First off, he didn't, so its moot. Lucked into a title? Yea only a Doncic fanboy who became a Mavs fan circa 2018 would say such a thing.

I wasn't talking about Dirk's loyality. I'm talking about everyone knows he was the first one in and first one out of the gym? Is that Luka? Not unless the gym was Whataburger. Mavs never had to worry about Dirk getting so many techs that he could get suspended. Luka misses games left and right because his lack of work ethic to get himself into tip top shape.

But Luka is a superstar, there's no denying that whatsoever. So let's talk about a g league type player instead, ur boy Josh Green.

You flip flop opinions more than women do. How do i know so much about Mavs history/players and Dirk if i am a fan only from 2018? I discovered these forums around that time, that's for sure.

But anyway, I didn't say he lucked into a title, i said Mavs lucked into a promising championship team. Well they had one in 2006 but that's another story... I know when Mavs have success again you'll be singing different tunes. You already admited to Bob8 that you were wrong, but now like i said, you're caught in the moment and changing your story again.

Green without Luka/Kyrie looks like one of the most promising young wing players in the game. He averaged 17ppg on 54% FG. Dude has been great on defense aswell. But that's on coach to figure out how to involve that type of player in an actual offense when stars do play. It's like he loses all of his confidence. You really think Bane would be much better in such a static offense that Kidd is running? Maybe... maybe not.

You have a coach who prefers to develop or play scrubs like Frank, Holiday, Powell over Hardy, Green, Wood or even Maxi. Start there, start cleaning the house at the top then move all the way down to star players.

More than women do, what are you some kind of misogynist? Luka's skill level translating to the NBA, yeah I was wrong sure. His piss poor attitude, diligence to stay in shape, and poor shot selection, yeah not so wrong.

You havent proven to know anything of substance aboutt he Mavs history, so just because you say you do, doesnt prove a thing. Josh green putting up numbers in losses means what exactly? He needs to step it up.

Sure just a coincidence that you, 41Dirk, and BeauBeau whatever just happened to find these forums after Luka was drafted, sure we'll take your collective words as gold. Keep hating on Bullock but commend Green, gee I wonder what differentiates those 2 that makes you do so.

I will explain you the difference, Josh is 22 years old playing on 3 mio rookie contract, Bullock is 32 years old with 10 mio salary. One is trending up and is having better athletic ability and much better ball-handling ability. Other is past his prime and can't do anything else than shoot open 3s. Anybody with basic basketball knowledge would understand how Josh's potential is much bigger than Bullocks'.

[Mr B]

The guys who are crying and saying Mavs could have taken Bane here and there are just crying over split milk. Cry harder because Dallas could have gotten Giannis. Cry harder because Dallas could have gotten Steph Curry or Manu Ginobili in the 2nd round. The list goes on and on. Why are you crying for freakin Desmond Bane? Do that for Giannis. Now let me hand you guys a bucket for your tears. LOL

There are some very dumb Mavs fans on this board.

[Archx]

Luka's skill level translating to the NBA, yeah I was wrong sure. His piss poor attitude, diligence to stay in shape, and poor shot selection, yeah not so wrong.

Where were you in the past few days when we ALL discussed Mavs issues and followed games. You just dropped out of the blue saying "i knew he was ****".... something like that.

If you want to talk constructive about his skills or what he does or doesn't do, we can do that. But you're all over the place, we can't have a reasonable argument like that.

You havent proven to know anything of substance aboutt he Mavs history, so just because you say you do, doesnt prove a thing. Josh green putting up numbers in losses means what exactly? He needs to step it up.

I don't feel the need to prove anything to anyone about my knowledge about Mavs history. I'm from EU, i followed Dirk and this team long enough to feel competent enough to know that i was/am a fan. I even defended Cuban for a long time when others were talking **** about him.

Sure just a coincidence that you, 41Dirk, and BeauBeau whatever just happened to find these forums after Luka was drafted, sure we'll take your collective words as gold. Keep hating on Bullock but commend Green, gee I wonder what differentiates those 2 that makes you do so.

I can't speak for others, i was on these forums before draft even happened, i only joined/applied at the later date. Still have no clue what does this have to do with one or the other?
Because i don't scream running around "Yo Luka is fat and takes bad shots"... Does that upset you? I always go into further details when i comment on players.
Like i said earlier, we can have a constructed debate about it but i simply don't agree when someone **** on a star player because of what happened in the past month. Sample size is simply too low. If this was Dirk, i would have defended him exactly the same. A lot of things that you say, make no sense to me.

I gave Bullock a lot of props lately, which you probably also missed, but he has been terrible at the start and he wasn't much of a help for the rest of the year. It's not a knock on him either, he's a pro and he does best what he knows best. But he's a starter for a team that had high hopes for playoffs.

Green on the other hand, well, Bob already answered you.