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Re: General Blue Jays Thread pt. 2 

Post#121 » by LBJKB24MJ23 » Wed Mar 15, 2023 2:00 pm

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Mad Prophet wrote:With the short outfield dimensions, I think Berrios will break the team record this year for homers allowed.


Man this FO can't afford to have a miss on berriors and that contract if he has another terrible year, it'll be basically an albatross contract if he can't bounce back to being atleast medicore and not the worst start pitcher in baseball. 7 year deal, and only in year 2....woof


we don't need to be concerned yet. we just have to wait x amount of days till his first start of the regular season. :lol: :lol:
raf1995 wrote:I just don’t think he has that kind of potential. I think we will regret not trading him for a haul in a few years when he’s a mid-tier starter with nice playmaking and defense and a shaky jumper.
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Re: General Blue Jays Thread pt. 2 

Post#122 » by polo007 » Sat Mar 18, 2023 10:07 pm

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The Jays in nearby Dunedin can really hit. And their outfield, which formerly had one part-time center fielder, now has three who can do it. Their baserunning is also much improved, a consideration with those pizza-box bases.

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Post#125 » by WuTang_CMB » Tue Mar 28, 2023 3:30 pm

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Re: General Blue Jays Thread pt. 2 

Post#126 » by tripa » Tue Mar 28, 2023 4:08 pm

Our starting pitching depth is still awful.

Im excited for everything else including our new outfielders

Also hoping the general vibe of the dugout remains positive even though they traded away Gurriel/Teoscar
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Re: General Blue Jays Thread pt. 2 

Post#127 » by Madvillainy2004 » Tue Mar 28, 2023 5:40 pm

tripa wrote:Our starting pitching depth is still awful.

Im excited for everything else including our new outfielders

Also hoping the general vibe of the dugout remains positive even though they traded away Gurriel/Teoscar


Relying on Kikuchi and Berrios for 2/5 of our rotation is not the most encouraging. Wish we shelled out the money for Stripling + Bassit and let Berrios/Kikuchi battle for 5th spot + extra depth. I still think this team will be very good but the starting pitching worries me more a lot.
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Re: General Blue Jays Thread pt. 2 

Post#128 » by LBJKB24MJ23 » Tue Mar 28, 2023 7:30 pm

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tripa wrote:Our starting pitching depth is still awful.

Im excited for everything else including our new outfielders

Also hoping the general vibe of the dugout remains positive even though they traded away Gurriel/Teoscar


Relying on Kikuchi and Berrios for 2/5 of our rotation is not the most encouraging. Wish we shelled out the money for Stripling + Bassit and let Berrios/Kikuchi battle for 5th spot + extra depth. I still think this team will be very good but the starting pitching worries me more a lot.


ya Berrios and Kikuchi have to be at least average to above average for the Jays to really contend. :roll:
raf1995 wrote:I just don’t think he has that kind of potential. I think we will regret not trading him for a haul in a few years when he’s a mid-tier starter with nice playmaking and defense and a shaky jumper.
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Re: General Blue Jays Thread pt. 2 

Post#129 » by Madvillainy2004 » Tue Mar 28, 2023 8:19 pm

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tripa wrote:Our starting pitching depth is still awful.

Im excited for everything else including our new outfielders

Also hoping the general vibe of the dugout remains positive even though they traded away Gurriel/Teoscar


Relying on Kikuchi and Berrios for 2/5 of our rotation is not the most encouraging. Wish we shelled out the money for Stripling + Bassit and let Berrios/Kikuchi battle for 5th spot + extra depth. I still think this team will be very good but the starting pitching worries me more a lot.


ya Berrios and Kikuchi have to be at least average to above average for the Jays to really contend. :roll:


I mean I think this is a stellar team but Kikuchi and Berrios being average isn't exactly a given considering they were both bottom 5 starters in the MLB last year considering starts + performance. We don't need them to be stellar but them being average is not a given at all. The team is probably good enough to win games with them playing terrible but any injuries/regression from Bassit/Gausman/Manoah would put the team in a tough spot.
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Re: General Blue Jays Thread pt. 2 

Post#130 » by LBJKB24MJ23 » Wed Mar 29, 2023 1:25 am

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Relying on Kikuchi and Berrios for 2/5 of our rotation is not the most encouraging. Wish we shelled out the money for Stripling + Bassit and let Berrios/Kikuchi battle for 5th spot + extra depth. I still think this team will be very good but the starting pitching worries me more a lot.


ya Berrios and Kikuchi have to be at least average to above average for the Jays to really contend. :roll:


I mean I think this is a stellar team but Kikuchi and Berrios being average isn't exactly a given considering they were both bottom 5 starters in the MLB last year considering starts + performance. We don't need them to be stellar but them being average is not a given at all. The team is probably good enough to win games with them playing terrible but any injuries/regression from Bassit/Gausman/Manoah would put the team in a tough spot.


thats why we need those guys to be at least average to even out any injuries/regression from the big 3. them being bad just potentially compounds a potential problem.
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Re: General Blue Jays Thread pt. 2 

Post#131 » by Madvillainy2004 » Wed Mar 29, 2023 2:25 pm

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ya Berrios and Kikuchi have to be at least average to above average for the Jays to really contend. :roll:


I mean I think this is a stellar team but Kikuchi and Berrios being average isn't exactly a given considering they were both bottom 5 starters in the MLB last year considering starts + performance. We don't need them to be stellar but them being average is not a given at all. The team is probably good enough to win games with them playing terrible but any injuries/regression from Bassit/Gausman/Manoah would put the team in a tough spot.


thats why we need those guys to be at least average to even out any injuries/regression from the big 3. them being bad just potentially compounds a potential problem.


Oh we agree then sorry I misinterpreted your last message as disagreeing. But yeah we do need them to be average which considering their pay isn't a big ask lmao. Still can't believe we threw 8 years at Berrios.
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Post#132 » by polo007 » Thu Mar 30, 2023 12:35 am

Bizarre new Blue Jays cap sold out in days after inspiring online mockery | The Star

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A bizarre new Toronto Blue Jays hat that featured mysterious goop dripping from the bird logo’s beak has sold out on the official MLB store, days after being roundly mocked online.

The officially licensed cap made its debut on the online store at the end of last week, priced at $64.99. By Wednesday, the item was completely sold out.

The hat was described as a “Blue Raspberry Ice Cream Drip Snapback,” seemingly identifying the mysterious liquid leaking from the logo’s beak. But users on social media had their own interpretations for the suggestive liquid.


Although the majority took to making lewd jokes, others poked fun at the designers or wondered what ice cream had to do with the Blue Jays. “No matter what the Nationals do this season, it won’t be as embarrassing as this hat,” one user wrote on Twitter.

Coloured red, white and blue, the hat also comes adorned with a patch from 2017 celebrating the team’s 40th season since being established in 1977.

According to MLB’s website, the cap was the most popular item selling in the hats category. Although some have praised the item for its looks, not entirely without irony, we’d wager most aren’t buying the hat for its esthetics.
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Re: General Blue Jays Thread pt. 2 

Post#133 » by Cyrus » Thu Mar 30, 2023 2:43 am

So predictions as we go into the start of the season?

Over 93 wins or under? Will the jays make the v playoffs and actually make it out of round 1?
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Re: General Blue Jays Thread pt. 2 

Post#134 » by LBJKB24MJ23 » Thu Mar 30, 2023 7:45 pm

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I mean I think this is a stellar team but Kikuchi and Berrios being average isn't exactly a given considering they were both bottom 5 starters in the MLB last year considering starts + performance. We don't need them to be stellar but them being average is not a given at all. The team is probably good enough to win games with them playing terrible but any injuries/regression from Bassit/Gausman/Manoah would put the team in a tough spot.


thats why we need those guys to be at least average to even out any injuries/regression from the big 3. them being bad just potentially compounds a potential problem.


Oh we agree then sorry I misinterpreted your last message as disagreeing. But yeah we do need them to be average which considering their pay isn't a big ask lmao. Still can't believe we threw 8 years at Berrios.


berrios skillset and talent are there, mental makeup is a different story.
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Post#139 » by fbalmeida » Tue Apr 4, 2023 9:37 am

Reassessing how the front office handled Stroman, who tossed 6 scoreless innings striking out 8 in his season opener, and weighing that against what we got back for him (basically Berríos) my initial intuition that trading Stroman was perhaps the worst decision Shapiro and Atkins have made in their tenure with us, is aging well, unfortunately.

I'm willing to look past that.

How do we correct it?
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Post#140 » by Natural11 » Tue Apr 4, 2023 3:13 pm

fbalmeida wrote:Reassessing how the front office handled Stroman, who tossed 6 scoreless innings striking out 8 in his season opener, and weighing that against what we got back for him (basically Berríos) my initial intuition that trading Stroman was perhaps the worst decision Shapiro and Atkins have made in their tenure with us, is aging well, unfortunately.

I'm willing to look past that.

How do we correct it?


If this season is another bust, probably a new front office. Our window to have these young stars for cheap won't be open that much longer and our prospect pool is thinning. Hell, there's even a chance that Woods-Richardson will outperform Berrios this year which would be salt in the wound.

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