Eye test problem: Dirk Nowitzki.

[Medbrat]

Read the topic, then saw who wrote it lmao. Jazz fans have always hated Dirk, he used to destroy them pretty much every time they played and he once said he hated Salt Lake CIty lol.

[Blame Rasho]

Do you remember Bonzi? He was a rather unique player. Played out of the post at 6'5. Used to crush the Jazz guards. Just a Jazz killer like a JJ Barea.

Yes I do, which is why I posted your terrible posts.

You tired and failed epically to save face until you just couldn’t anymore.

[jazzfan1971]

Actually, when Karl faced Dirk in the regular season Karl won 12-9. Better points, rebounds, and assists as well. This is what I was remembering. So, glad to know my memory wasn't completely gone.

But, fine Rasho. You win. Again. I concede. Take another victory lap if you must.

[Blame Rasho]

Actually, when Karl faced Dirk in the regular season Karl won 12-9. Better points, rebounds, and assists as well. This is what I was remembering. So, glad to know my memory wasn't completely gone.

But, fine Rasho. You win. Again. I concede. Take another victory lap if you must.

True sign of someone who always wants to win even if they are wrong, they grasp at anything to save face.

Congrats, Malone was better than a young Dirk on a mostly horrible mavs team to start his career, way to go.

You are the one who looks clueless(eye tests, measuring gravity, only seeing jazz games, saying dirks has empty stats, being umm afraid and measuring it, defending bonzi wells…) here, but keep trying to save face.

Actually…..terrible thread and terrible posts from you all around.

[LukaTheGOAT]

I guess my argument would be the following:

From 2001 to 2004, in a 3,334-minute (roughly 70-games) sample without Steve Nash on the court, and Dirk on, the Dallas Mavericks still produced an insanely good +5.9 rORtg (relative offensive rating).

The Mavs produced a +10.5 rORtg with both players on the court.

So even before Dirk was perhaps in the heart of his prime, he showed the ability to really drive strong offenses, even without Nash. With Nash, they paired well enough together to have a GOAT-level offense.

Also during that span,

League leader in on-court rORtg from 2001-2004:

2001: Shaquille O’Neal (+9.6)
2002: Dirk Nowitzki (+9.9)
2003: Dirk Nowitzki (+10.0)
2004: Dirk Nowitzki (+11.2)

During Dirk's MVP season:

Dirk in 2006-07:

Per 75

▫️27.3 PTS on 50.2% FG
▫️9.9 RBS
▫️3.7 AST
▫️0.9 BLK
▫️41.6% 3PT (3.3 3PAs)
▫️60.5% TS (+6.4 rTS%)
▫️50% from Long Mid Range
▫️Lead a 115.6 ORTG when on (+9.1 rORTG)


I guess I would question, why were these offenses so good, if Dirk wasn't a legit MVP-level guy or was unable to bend defenses. I really do think Dirk has great scoring gravity.