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2022-23 Season Discussion and Review - the Blockbuster trade and playoff downfall

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Re: 2022-23 Season Discussion and Speculation 6 - The Final Stretch 

Post#601 » by Slim Charless » Wed Mar 29, 2023 2:41 am

SunsRback4Good wrote:
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Hopefully he plays

Enough already


Enough is enough!!! We want KD healthy or not healthy let the man play already.


Like when the Dubs played him in the Finals with a sore achilles and he listened and went out and tore it his 1st game back? Losing the next 1.5 years of his career. No thank you.

Another game won't kill us. We should be able to beat Minny anyways. We are maxed out at the 4th seed and can't pass MEM or SAC. No need to stress out. Besides with the Goofus roaming our sidelines who knows if we can even finish this thing off anyways. Moronty can screw up a cup of coffee.
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Re: 2022-23 Season Discussion and Speculation 6 - The Final Stretch 

Post#602 » by SunsRback4Good » Wed Mar 29, 2023 2:43 am

MrMiyagi wrote:
SunsRback4Good wrote:
BobbieL wrote:
Hopefully he plays

Enough already


Enough is enough!!! We want KD healthy or not healthy let the man play already.

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I don’t suspect you being a violent man MrMiyagi. Please put the hammer down gently.
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Re: 2022-23 Season Discussion and Speculation 6 - The Final Stretch 

Post#603 » by SunsRback4Good » Wed Mar 29, 2023 2:46 am

Slim Charless wrote:
SunsRback4Good wrote:
BobbieL wrote:
Hopefully he plays

Enough already


Enough is enough!!! We want KD healthy or not healthy let the man play already.


Like when the Dubs played him in the Finals with a sore achilles and he listened and went out and tore it his 1st game back? Losing the next 1.5 years of his career. No thank you.

Another game won't kill us. We should be able to beat Minny anyways. We are maxed out at the 4th seed and can't pass MEM or SAC. No need to stress out. Besides with the Goofus roaming our sidelines who knows if we can even finish this thing off anyways. Moronty can screw up a cup of coffee.


Yes, I was being sarcastic better he sits another few games which would be another week. No need to rush KD back with 7 games remaining. Even if we finish 5th seed we don’t need home court in the first round. What is upsetting is watching Paul miss easy mid range jumpers which he normally makes. I can’t see the Suns making the finals if he plays that way even if Booker/KD average 30ppg in the playoffs. If Paul can’t hit at least 45% of his jumpers I don’t see us beating the Nuggets in the WCF.
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Re: 2022-23 Season Discussion and Speculation 6 - The Final Stretch 

Post#604 » by Slim Charless » Wed Mar 29, 2023 2:57 am

Chris Paul is the X factor for this year's playoffs. If he's the CP3 of the Mavs series, we're in trouble. Hopefully having KD and Booker do the scoring will allow him to pick and choose and save his legs.

I'm also worried about our defense. I didn't like at all how Sacramento run all over us and got whatever shots they wanted. That game was disheartening to say the least. Okogie and Craig HAVE to step up and lock up or at least make life hard on opposing backcourts. There's just no other way.
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Re: 2022-23 Season Discussion and Speculation 6 - The Final Stretch 

Post#605 » by Slim Charless » Wed Mar 29, 2023 3:07 am

Draymond is such a POS......kinda wanna get them in the first round. Remember when he said that Booker needs to demand a trade? **** that guy. I'm sure KD hates that team too. Plus it'd be great to send them packing.
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Re: 2022-23 Season Discussion and Speculation 6 - The Final Stretch 

Post#606 » by SunsRback4Good » Wed Mar 29, 2023 3:20 am

Slim Charless wrote:Chris Paul is the X factor for this year's playoffs. If he's the CP3 of the Mavs series, we're in trouble. Hopefully having KD and Booker do the scoring will allow him to pick and choose and save his legs.

I'm also worried about our defense. I didn't like at all how Sacramento run all over us and got whatever shots they wanted. That game was disheartening to say the least. Okogie and Craig HAVE to step up and lock up or at least make life hard on opposing backcourts. There's just no other way.


Although our defense has regressed losing Jae, Bridges & CamJ is a hard pill to swallow. But don’t forget the kings have #1 offense literally the entire season they make any team look like fools on defense. Like you stated, Okogie & Craig need to play top notch defense cause you can’t rely on Warren, Ross, Payne to play good defense. Ayton, Paul, Booker, KD, Craig, Okogie, Biyombo, Ish, Shamet, Lee are all decent defenders too so a team effort will be crucial in going further in the playoffs.
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Re: 2022-23 Season Discussion and Speculation 6 - The Final Stretch 

Post#607 » by SunsRback4Good » Wed Mar 29, 2023 3:23 am

Slim Charless wrote:Draymond is such a POS......kinda wanna get them in the first round. Remember when he said that Booker needs to demand a trade? **** that guy. I'm sure KD hates that team too. Plus it'd be great to send them packing.


Either Suns or Grizzlies will finish off the Warriors. Just can’t see them going far with all their injuries. Wiggins missed half a season, bench got weaker. Last season they had injuries but also had great team chemistry and top 3 record in west. While this year been anyone between 6th to 11th seed for better half of the season. That’s too much to overcome even if Curry/Klay average 35ppg which is highly unlikely.
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Re: 2022-23 Season Discussion and Speculation 6 - The Final Stretch 

Post#608 » by lilfishi22 » Wed Mar 29, 2023 3:31 am

Slim Charless wrote:Chris Paul is the X factor for this year's playoffs. If he's the CP3 of the Mavs series, we're in trouble. Hopefully having KD and Booker do the scoring will allow him to pick and choose and save his legs.

I'm also worried about our defense. I didn't like at all how Sacramento run all over us and got whatever shots they wanted. That game was disheartening to say the least. Okogie and Craig HAVE to step up and lock up or at least make life hard on opposing backcourts. There's just no other way.

It's easy to forget Sacramento has the best offense this season. #1 in PPG, #1 is ORTG, #1 in TS%, #2 in FG% and #4 in APG. They are really good offensively. They are a bit like the Suns the previous season where we were pretty darn healthy all season and had the opportunities to really build that chemistry because of availability.

Their Achilles heel is their defense. 26th in the league in both opponent PPG and DRTG.
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Re: 2022-23 Season Discussion and Speculation 6 - The Final Stretch 

Post#609 » by Slim Charless » Wed Mar 29, 2023 4:00 am

lilfishi22 wrote:
Slim Charless wrote:Chris Paul is the X factor for this year's playoffs. If he's the CP3 of the Mavs series, we're in trouble. Hopefully having KD and Booker do the scoring will allow him to pick and choose and save his legs.

I'm also worried about our defense. I didn't like at all how Sacramento run all over us and got whatever shots they wanted. That game was disheartening to say the least. Okogie and Craig HAVE to step up and lock up or at least make life hard on opposing backcourts. There's just no other way.

It's easy to forget Sacramento has the best offense this season. #1 in PPG, #1 is ORTG, #1 in TS%, #2 in FG% and #4 in APG. They are really good offensively. They are a bit like the Suns the previous season where we were pretty darn healthy all season and had the opportunities to really build that chemistry because of availability.

Their Achilles heel is their defense. 26th in the league in both opponent PPG and DRTG.


That's true but our defense isn't exactly lock down either. We're actually gonna need KD to play both ways and be effective at doing it.
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Re: 2022-23 Season Discussion and Speculation 6 - The Final Stretch 

Post#610 » by SunsRback4Good » Wed Mar 29, 2023 4:08 am

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Slim Charless wrote:Chris Paul is the X factor for this year's playoffs. If he's the CP3 of the Mavs series, we're in trouble. Hopefully having KD and Booker do the scoring will allow him to pick and choose and save his legs.

I'm also worried about our defense. I didn't like at all how Sacramento run all over us and got whatever shots they wanted. That game was disheartening to say the least. Okogie and Craig HAVE to step up and lock up or at least make life hard on opposing backcourts. There's just no other way.

It's easy to forget Sacramento has the best offense this season. #1 in PPG, #1 is ORTG, #1 in TS%, #2 in FG% and #4 in APG. They are really good offensively. They are a bit like the Suns the previous season where we were pretty darn healthy all season and had the opportunities to really build that chemistry because of availability.

Their Achilles heel is their defense. 26th in the league in both opponent PPG and DRTG.


That's true but our defense isn't exactly lock down either. We're actually gonna need KD to play both ways and be effective at doing it.


When I go both ways my parents disown me but KD plays both ways and he’s a hero. The system needs to work both ways otherwise only one party wins in the end. :roll:
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Re: 2022-23 Season Discussion and Speculation 6 - The Final Stretch 

Post#611 » by Sunlight » Wed Mar 29, 2023 4:33 am

Now that GSW took care of the Pelicans, it would seem that Suns - GSW will be the playoff pair. I hope the Suns keep the home advantage. At least 5-2 for the rest of the season.
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Re: 2022-23 Season Discussion and Speculation 6 - The Final Stretch 

Post#612 » by SunsRback4Good » Wed Mar 29, 2023 4:39 am

Sunlight wrote:Now that GSW took care of the Pelicans, it would seem that Suns - GSW will be the playoff pair. I hope the Suns keep the home advantage. At least 5-2 for the rest of the season.


Why are you ruling out the Twolves? We know Clippers will drop from 5th seed without PG for few weeks. Wolves are a half game behind the Warriors for 6th seed and one game behind the Clippers. If they manage to beat Suns tomorrow it could very likely set up a Suns-Wolves first round matchup.
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Re: 2022-23 Season Discussion and Speculation 6 - The Final Stretch 

Post#613 » by lilfishi22 » Wed Mar 29, 2023 5:25 am

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Slim Charless wrote:Chris Paul is the X factor for this year's playoffs. If he's the CP3 of the Mavs series, we're in trouble. Hopefully having KD and Booker do the scoring will allow him to pick and choose and save his legs.

I'm also worried about our defense. I didn't like at all how Sacramento run all over us and got whatever shots they wanted. That game was disheartening to say the least. Okogie and Craig HAVE to step up and lock up or at least make life hard on opposing backcourts. There's just no other way.

It's easy to forget Sacramento has the best offense this season. #1 in PPG, #1 is ORTG, #1 in TS%, #2 in FG% and #4 in APG. They are really good offensively. They are a bit like the Suns the previous season where we were pretty darn healthy all season and had the opportunities to really build that chemistry because of availability.

Their Achilles heel is their defense. 26th in the league in both opponent PPG and DRTG.


That's true but our defense isn't exactly lock down either. We're actually gonna need KD to play both ways and be effective at doing it.

It's not lockdown like it was last season but it's solid. Still 9th in DRTG and 5th in opponent PPG. Our issue, which I hope KD can help solve, is the so so offense. We're middle of the league in offensive rating and 18th in putting points on the board. Big part of our offensive problems and it's one that's been around for a long time is our lack of 3PA's. We've been an above average shooting team but we just don't shoot enough.
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Re: 2022-23 Season Discussion and Speculation 6 - The Final Stretch 

Post#614 » by Bogyo » Wed Mar 29, 2023 5:38 am

Slim Charless wrote:Chris Paul is the X factor for this year's playoffs. If he's the CP3 of the Mavs series, we're in trouble. Hopefully having KD and Booker do the scoring will allow him to pick and choose and save his legs.

I'm also worried about our defense. I didn't like at all how Sacramento run all over us and got whatever shots they wanted. That game was disheartening to say the least. Okogie and Craig HAVE to step up and lock up or at least make life hard on opposing backcourts. There's just no other way.


I don't think he is. I've been on this for a while, and my feelings keep getting stronger: we are not winning with him at point - KD or no KD.
There I said it.
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Re: 2022-23 Season Discussion and Speculation 6 - The Final Stretch 

Post#615 » by lilfishi22 » Wed Mar 29, 2023 5:49 am

Bogyo wrote:
Slim Charless wrote:Chris Paul is the X factor for this year's playoffs. If he's the CP3 of the Mavs series, we're in trouble. Hopefully having KD and Booker do the scoring will allow him to pick and choose and save his legs.

I'm also worried about our defense. I didn't like at all how Sacramento run all over us and got whatever shots they wanted. That game was disheartening to say the least. Okogie and Craig HAVE to step up and lock up or at least make life hard on opposing backcourts. There's just no other way.


I don't think he is. I've been on this for a while, and my feelings keep getting stronger: we are not winning with him at point - KD or no KD.
There I said it.

Why?
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Re: 2022-23 Season Discussion and Speculation 6 - The Final Stretch 

Post#616 » by SunsRback4Good » Wed Mar 29, 2023 6:09 am

Bogyo wrote:
Slim Charless wrote:Chris Paul is the X factor for this year's playoffs. If he's the CP3 of the Mavs series, we're in trouble. Hopefully having KD and Booker do the scoring will allow him to pick and choose and save his legs.

I'm also worried about our defense. I didn't like at all how Sacramento run all over us and got whatever shots they wanted. That game was disheartening to say the least. Okogie and Craig HAVE to step up and lock up or at least make life hard on opposing backcourts. There's just no other way.


I don't think he is. I've been on this for a while, and my feelings keep getting stronger: we are not winning with him at point - KD or no KD.
There I said it.


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Re: 2022-23 Season Discussion and Speculation 6 - The Final Stretch 

Post#617 » by sunskerr » Wed Mar 29, 2023 6:43 am

If you say something like that, you have to back it up. He's (Paul) going to be the target of many teams in the playoffs. So I think there's an obvious weakness and we should be prepared to sit him if he's not getting it done. Can't say much beyond that.
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Re: 2022-23 Season Discussion and Speculation 6 - The Final Stretch 

Post#618 » by Saberestar » Wed Mar 29, 2023 7:34 am

Bogyo wrote:
Slim Charless wrote:Chris Paul is the X factor for this year's playoffs. If he's the CP3 of the Mavs series, we're in trouble. Hopefully having KD and Booker do the scoring will allow him to pick and choose and save his legs.

I'm also worried about our defense. I didn't like at all how Sacramento run all over us and got whatever shots they wanted. That game was disheartening to say the least. Okogie and Craig HAVE to step up and lock up or at least make life hard on opposing backcourts. There's just no other way.


I don't think he is. I've been on this for a while, and my feelings keep getting stronger: we are not winning with him at point - KD or no KD.
There I said it.

We can win it all with him as our starting PG and that's the plan.

He is one of the best PGs in the history of the game and even at his age he is producing and orchestrating nicely our sets.

Just remember Jason Kidd on the Mavs. He was old but he was Jason **** Kidd. He helped them to win a championship being 37/38 years old.
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Re: 2022-23 Season Discussion and Speculation 6 - The Final Stretch 

Post#619 » by Revived » Wed Mar 29, 2023 7:44 am

Saberestar wrote:
Bogyo wrote:
Slim Charless wrote:Chris Paul is the X factor for this year's playoffs. If he's the CP3 of the Mavs series, we're in trouble. Hopefully having KD and Booker do the scoring will allow him to pick and choose and save his legs.

I'm also worried about our defense. I didn't like at all how Sacramento run all over us and got whatever shots they wanted. That game was disheartening to say the least. Okogie and Craig HAVE to step up and lock up or at least make life hard on opposing backcourts. There's just no other way.


I don't think he is. I've been on this for a while, and my feelings keep getting stronger: we are not winning with him at point - KD or no KD.
There I said it.

We can win it all with him as our starting PG and that's the plan.

He is one of the best PGs in the history of the game and even at his age he is producing and orchestrating nicely our sets.

Just remember Jason Kidd on the Mavs. He was old but he was Jason **** Kidd. He helped them to win a championship being 37/38 years old.

Jason Kidd was still a stellar defender in the Mavs title run using his 6’4 frame and strength to his advantage.

CP3 is barely 6’0 and at this point in his career he cannot defend a chair.
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Re: 2022-23 Season Discussion and Speculation 6 - The Final Stretch 

Post#620 » by Revived » Wed Mar 29, 2023 7:45 am

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lilfishi22 wrote:
Slim Charless wrote:Chris Paul is the X factor for this year's playoffs. If he's the CP3 of the Mavs series, we're in trouble. Hopefully having KD and Booker do the scoring will allow him to pick and choose and save his legs.

I'm also worried about our defense. I didn't like at all how Sacramento run all over us and got whatever shots they wanted. That game was disheartening to say the least. Okogie and Craig HAVE to step up and lock up or at least make life hard on opposing backcourts. There's just no other way.

It's easy to forget Sacramento has the best offense this season. #1 in PPG, #1 is ORTG, #1 in TS%, #2 in FG% and #4 in APG. They are really good offensively. They are a bit like the Suns the previous season where we were pretty darn healthy all season and had the opportunities to really build that chemistry because of availability.

Their Achilles heel is their defense. 26th in the league in both opponent PPG and DRTG.


That's true but our defense isn't exactly lock down either. We're actually gonna need KD to play both ways and be effective at doing it.

Asking for too much from KD is gonna decrease the time before his next injury.

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