All known blocked shot data of Bill Russell and Wilt Chamberlain:

[70sFan]

Something like turnovers per game for Wilt and Russell would be much appreciated.
Sorry 70sFan, I don't have data for either one; however, for the time being I would suggest checking the www.whatifsports.com
website, as they would have estimated unofficial turnover data for both.

By the way, I just got message yesterday from another man who collaborates with the NBA and he said the league doesn't have full 1960s seasons on the tape, or even close to it. It seems we have to wait until they release something.
Well, I don't know who that man is, but I'm certain I know who he isn't.

And I won't say publicly whom I believe it to be, either.

Whatifsports make very rough estimations which just aren't credible unfortunately.

You can say who it is, why not?

[70sFan]

By the way, I just got message yesterday from another man who collaborates with the NBA and he said the league doesn't have full 1960s seasons on the tape, or even close to it.
Did he say anything about film and/or DVD?

How exactly did the conversation proceed anyway, at least according to your personal recollection?

I just got the message that the league definitely doesn't have 1960s full seasons on the tape, which is what I also believe based on my long work with various archives.

[mstat13shuh]

Something like turnovers per game for Wilt and Russell would be much appreciated.
Sorry 70sFan, I don't have data for either one; however, for the time being I would suggest checking the www.whatifsports.com
website, as they would have estimated unofficial turnover data for both.

By the way, I just got message yesterday from another man who collaborates with the NBA and he said the league doesn't have full 1960s seasons on the tape, or even close to it. It seems we have to wait until they release something.
Well, I don't know who that man is, but I'm certain I know who he isn't.

And I won't say publicly whom I believe it to be, either.

Whatifsports make very rough estimations which just aren't credible unfortunately.
I don't totally agree here, however, that's your prerogative.

You can say who it is, why not? No, actually, I cannot & will not.

[mstat13shuh]

By the way, I just got message yesterday from another man who collaborates with the NBA and he said the league doesn't have full 1960s seasons on the tape, or even close to it.
Did he say anything about film and/or DVD?

How exactly did the conversation proceed anyway, at least according to your personal recollection?

I just got the message that the league definitely doesn't have 1960s full seasons on the tape, which is what I also believe based on my long work with various archives. Well, then whoever you communicated with must be somewhat underinformed about this, because I know he's wrong.

For all I know, maybe he was told by his superiors to tell you that.
And if so, that's abominable.

[SNPA]

What is this business that you must get players remaining family’s consent all about? Why? Who owns this film?

[70sFan]

By the way, I just got message yesterday from another man who collaborates with the NBA and he said the league doesn't have full 1960s seasons on the tape, or even close to it.
Did he say anything about film and/or DVD?

How exactly did the conversation proceed anyway, at least according to your personal recollection?

I just got the message that the league definitely doesn't have 1960s full seasons on the tape, which is what I also believe based on my long work with various archives. Well, then whoever you communicated with must be somewhat underinformed about this, because I know he's wrong.

For all I know, maybe he was told by his superiors to tell you that.
And if so, that's abominable.

All I want from you is some evidences. I have contacted the league a few times, if you at least give me some names, e-mail messages etc. it would be easier to believe anything you talk about here. Otherwise, you say things like "the league has all 1960s games" when in reality, most of these games weren't even taped back then - for example, Wilt's 100 points game.

[mstat13shuh]

What is this business that you must get players remaining family’s consent all about? Why? Who owns this film?

Read #337 for more information.

As well as #300-320 for additional clarification.

[mstat13shuh]

I just got the message that the league definitely doesn't have 1960s full seasons on the tape, which is what I also believe based on my long work with various archives. Well, then whoever you communicated with must be somewhat underinformed about this, because I know he's wrong.

For all I know, maybe he was told by his superiors to tell you that.
And if so, that's abominable.

All I want from you is some evidences. I have contacted the league a few times, if you at least give me some names, e-mail messages etc. it would be easier to believe anything you talk about here. If you study the history of this post & who posts unofficial block data besides me, than you of all people should know by now who else has access to the data besides me.

Otherwise, you say things like "the league has all 1960s games" when in reality, most of these games weren't even taped back then - for example, Wilt's 100 points game.
Or so most of us have been told for so long.

I will say this though:

Wilt's 100 point game absolutely was NOT recorded on film and/or tape.

But most, if not all, the other games from this era definitely were.
That's why I choose to occasionally bless those on this chat forum & elsewhere with some unofficial data.

Cmon 70sFan, have a little more faith already smh.

[SNPA]

What is this business that you must get players remaining family’s consent all about? Why? Who owns this film?

Read #337 for more information.

As well as #300-320 for additional clarification.

Read those.

Who owns these old game tapes? If it’s the NBA why is family permission needed? If it’s the families, how did that come to be? It’s a weird thing to ask the family for the league to show an old game film to someone.

Why does it have to be for educational purposes too?

[mstat13shuh]

What is this business that you must get players remaining family’s consent all about? Why? Who owns this film?

Read #337 for more information.

As well as #300-320 for additional clarification.

Read those.

Who owns these old game tapes? If it’s the NBA why is family permission needed? If it’s the families, how did that come to be? It’s a weird thing to ask the family for the league to show an old game film to someone.

Why does it have to be for educational purposes too?

In this case it's more to do with knowing Wilt's family members personally for obtaining complete Wilt game footage.

[70sFan]

All I want from you is some evidences. I have contacted the league a few times, if you at least give me some names, e-mail messages etc. it would be easier to believe anything you talk about here. If you study the history of this post & who posts unofficial block data besides me, than you of all people should know by now who else has access to the data besides me.

Otherwise, you say things like "the league has all 1960s games" when in reality, most of these games weren't even taped back then - for example, Wilt's 100 points game.
Or so most of us have been told for so long.

I will say this though:

Wilt's 100 point game absolutely was NOT recorded on film and/or tape.

But most, if not all, the other games from this era definitely were.
That's why I choose to occasionally bless those on this chat forum & elsewhere with some unofficial data.

Cmon 70sFan, have a little more faith already smh.

Nobody besides you said the league has the access for all 1960s games. Coastalmaker contacted the league and confirmed they have a lot of material, but he never said something as extreme. That's just not true, the league likely doesn't have even 10% of Wilt games.

[SNPA]

Read those.

Who owns these old game tapes? If it’s the NBA why is family permission needed? If it’s the families, how did that come to be? It’s a weird thing to ask the family for the league to show an old game film to someone.

Why does it have to be for educational purposes too?

In this case it's more to do with knowing Wilt's family members personally for obtaining complete Wilt game footage.

So it’s privately owned footage?

[mstat13shuh]

All I want from you is some evidences. I have contacted the league a few times, if you at least give me some names, e-mail messages etc. it would be easier to believe anything you talk about here. If you study the history of this post & who posts unofficial block data besides me, than you of all people should know by now who else has access to the data besides me.

Otherwise, you say things like "the league has all 1960s games" when in reality, most of these games weren't even taped back then - for example, Wilt's 100 points game.
Or so most of us have been told for so long.

I will say this though:

Wilt's 100 point game absolutely was NOT recorded on film and/or tape.

But most, if not all, the other games from this era definitely were.
That's why I choose to occasionally bless those on this chat forum & elsewhere with some unofficial data.

Cmon 70sFan, have a little more faith already smh.

Nobody besides you said the league has the access for all 1960s games.
I guess that makes more of a minority in this than I initially realized.

Coastalmaker contacted the league and confirmed they have a lot of material, but he never said something as extreme.
Wait a second. Are you calling coastalmarker a liar? Because he's anything but.

That's just not true, the league likely doesn't have even 10% of Wilt games.
I sincerely believe you'll be proven wrong at some point in the future, if not already.

[70sFan]

Nobody besides you said the league has the access for all 1960s games.
I guess that makes more of a minority in this than I initially realized.

Coastalmaker contacted the league and confirmed they have a lot of material, but he never said something as extreme.
Wait a second. Are you calling coastalmarker a liar? Because he's anything but.

That's just not true, the league likely doesn't have even 10% of Wilt games.
I sincerely believe you'll be proven wrong at some point in the future, if not already.

No, I don't call coastalmaker a liar. Coastalmaker never said the league has all Wilt games in their archives, only that they had a lot of them. Even 10% of Wilt's games is a lot new material.

[mstat13shuh]

Nobody besides you said the league has the access for all 1960s games.
I guess that makes more of a minority in this than I initially realized.

Coastalmaker contacted the league and confirmed they have a lot of material, but he never said something as extreme.
Wait a second. Are you calling coastalmarker a liar? Because he's anything but.

That's just not true, the league likely doesn't have even 10% of Wilt games.
I sincerely believe you'll be proven wrong at some point in the future, if not already.

No, I don't call coastalmaker a liar. Coastalmaker never said the league has all Wilt games in their archives, only that they had a lot of them. Even 10% of Wilt's games is a lot new material.

If you say so, but I still don't totally agree with you.

All I can suggest to you at this point is to contact him privately about this.

As well as possibly someone else at NBA Archives-Entertainment who isn't afraid to divulge the actual truth about something like this.

[70sFan]

No, I don't call coastalmaker a liar. Coastalmaker never said the league has all Wilt games in their archives, only that they had a lot of them. Even 10% of Wilt's games is a lot new material.

If you say so, but I still don't totally agree with you.

All I can suggest to you at this point is to contact him privately about this.

As well as possibly someone else at NBA Archives-Entertainment who isn't afraid to divulge the actual truth about something like this.

Someone like Jay Rizick, Footage Licensing Lead of the NBA Archives? Yeah, I contacted him. Who is your informator?

[mstat13shuh]

No, I don't call coastalmaker a liar. Coastalmaker never said the league has all Wilt games in their archives, only that they had a lot of them. Even 10% of Wilt's games is a lot new material.

If you say so, but I still don't totally agree with you.

All I can suggest to you at this point is to contact him privately about this.

As well as possibly someone else at NBA Archives-Entertainment who isn't afraid to divulge the actual truth about something like this.

Someone like Jay Rizick, Footage Licensing Lead of the NBA Archives? Yeah, I contacted him. Who is your informator?

Who's Jay Rizick? I've never heard of him at all.
What can you tell me about him?

I mean, would he know something I might not?

[70sFan]

If you say so, but I still don't totally agree with you.

All I can suggest to you at this point is to contact him privately about this.

As well as possibly someone else at NBA Archives-Entertainment who isn't afraid to divulge the actual truth about something like this.

Someone like Jay Rizick, Footage Licensing Lead of the NBA Archives? Yeah, I contacted him. Who is your informator?

Who's Jay Rizick? I've never heard of him at all.
What can you tell me about him?

I mean, would he know something I might not?

https://www.linkedin.com/in/jay-rizick-9b8a187

If you have never heard of Jay, I doubt your sources.

[mstat13shuh]

Let me ask you this 70sFan:

Let's say I found an old Red Auerbach quote where he thought that Bill Russell blocked over 10,000 shots.
You'd probably believe him, right? Why? Because he's considered a credible source by most.
But that doesn't always mean he's right about everything.

But if someone like me said it & could confirm it via a credible source, you'd be FAR less inclined to believe me.
Why? Because you'd feel the need to have it completely confirmed from someone that YOU would consider more of a credible source than me, even though I knew I was being completely honest about it.

[mstat13shuh]

Someone like Jay Rizick, Footage Licensing Lead of the NBA Archives? Yeah, I contacted him. Who is your informator?

Who's Jay Rizick? I've never heard of him at all.
What can you tell me about him?

I mean, would he know something I might not?

https://www.linkedin.com/in/jay-rizick-9b8a187

If you have never heard of Jay, I doubt your sources.

Maybe I have at some point vaguely, recently, but I know I haven't yet contacted him personally.

But at some point in the near future, maybe I will.