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Early discussion on the 2023 offseason

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Re: Early discussion on the 2023 offseason 

Post#141 » by DaBolden76 » Sat Mar 18, 2023 1:49 am

CalamityX12 wrote:Simmons and Klutch sports breaking up

What does thus indicate?

Means his agent who had gave him bad advice can no longer do so. Andrew Bogut has spoken on his podcast about Clutch and how they restrict anyone getting close to Simmons.

This is the best thing that could happen to Simmons. For now I would ride his 2 years of his contract.
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Re: Early discussion on the 2023 offseason 

Post#142 » by Eatgreenz » Sat Mar 18, 2023 2:10 am

DaBolden76 wrote:
CalamityX12 wrote:Simmons and Klutch sports breaking up

What does thus indicate?

Means his agent who had gave him bad advice can no longer do so. Andrew Bogut has spoken on his podcast about Clutch and how they restrict anyone getting close to Simmons.

This is the best thing that could happen to Simmons. For now I would ride his 2 years of his contract
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Re: Early discussion on the 2023 offseason 

Post#143 » by Papi_swav » Sat Mar 18, 2023 2:30 am

3pt_chucker wrote:Team needs a real PF and C going forward. I'll wait til offseason to say for sure but I would be open to selling high on Claxton depending on what the return is.

PF yes but I'm not giving up Claxton. I think we should sign and trade Cam J though
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Re: Early discussion on the 2023 offseason 

Post#144 » by vincecarter4pres » Wed Mar 29, 2023 4:33 am

So it has to be discussed… do you think the Nets brass go for Dame if he hits the market and the asking price is, “reasonable”?
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Re: Early discussion on the 2023 offseason 

Post#145 » by vincecarter4pres » Wed Mar 29, 2023 4:36 am

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3pt_chucker wrote:Team needs a real PF and C going forward. I'll wait til offseason to say for sure but I would be open to selling high on Claxton depending on what the return is.

PF yes but I'm not giving up Claxton. I think we should sign and trade Cam J though

Damn, I wouldn’t. He’s the type of player every team wants on their roster. He’s good on both sides of the ball, versatile enough on offense, athletic, young and in his prime, very plug and play with basically any style of teammates.
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Re: Early discussion on the 2023 offseason 

Post#146 » by Papi_swav » Wed Mar 29, 2023 4:37 am

vincecarter4pres wrote:So it has to be discussed… do you think the Nets brass go for Dame if he hits the market and the asking price is, “reasonable”?

I guess if it's reasonable but I have a hard time believing Portland will trade him for a reasonable return, they are going to want everything for the best player in their franchise and I'm not with that.
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Re: Early discussion on the 2023 offseason 

Post#147 » by vincecarter4pres » Wed Mar 29, 2023 5:02 am

Papi_swav wrote:
vincecarter4pres wrote:So it has to be discussed… do you think the Nets brass go for Dame if he hits the market and the asking price is, “reasonable”?

I guess if it's reasonable but I have a hard time believing Portland will trade him for a reasonable return, they are going to want everything for the best player in their franchise and I'm not with that.

Maybe, likely likely, but he will be deep into 33 years old with an injury history by the first quarter of next season.

Might only cost something like Dinwiddie, Joe Harris, Cam Thomas, and a few picks.
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Re: Early discussion on the 2023 offseason 

Post#148 » by Keith Van Horn » Wed Mar 29, 2023 1:31 pm

vincecarter4pres wrote:So it has to be discussed… do you think the Nets brass go for Dame if he hits the market and the asking price is, “reasonable”?

I think so. I think his game and talent are undeniable. I think he's in our group of "big future targets", along with Luka, Trae, and KAT (maybe Siakam is considered a huge get?)

I just have no idea how to gauge his value.
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Post#149 » by Eatgreenz » Wed Mar 29, 2023 1:50 pm

vincecarter4pres wrote:So it has to be discussed… do you think the Nets brass go for Dame if he hits the market and the asking price is, “reasonable”?

Dame would be perfect for this team. Only question other than how much we would to give up to get him is. How much prime yrs does have left that make the trade worth it
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Re: Early discussion on the 2023 offseason 

Post#150 » by Keith Van Horn » Wed Mar 29, 2023 3:40 pm

Eatgreenz wrote:
vincecarter4pres wrote:So it has to be discussed… do you think the Nets brass go for Dame if he hits the market and the asking price is, “reasonable”?

Dame would be perfect for this team. Only question other than how much we would to give up to get him is. How much prime yrs does have left that make the trade worth it

No one is taking Simmons. The organization needs to do everything in their power to help him get healthy and all the help he needs.

So maybe some combo of:

- Spencer
- Joe
- Cam T
- DFS
- 2-3 1sts

???
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Re: Early discussion on the 2023 offseason 

Post#151 » by Eatgreenz » Wed Mar 29, 2023 4:41 pm

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Eatgreenz wrote:
vincecarter4pres wrote:So it has to be discussed… do you think the Nets brass go for Dame if he hits the market and the asking price is, “reasonable”?

Dame would be perfect for this team. Only question other than how much we would to give up to get him is. How much prime yrs does have left that make the trade worth it

No one is taking Simmons. The organization needs to do everything in their power to help him get healthy and all the help he needs.

So maybe some combo of:

- Spencer
- Joe
- Cam T
- DFS
- 2-3 1sts

???

Thats definitely something I would do. Even if dame got 3 prime years. Cant waste the production mikal can do without truly competing.
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Re: Early discussion on the 2023 offseason 

Post#152 » by Stone » Wed Mar 29, 2023 5:03 pm

vincecarter4pres wrote:So it has to be discussed… do you think the Nets brass go for Dame if he hits the market and the asking price is, “reasonable”?


I don't think so. We should be trying to build with young talent. Marks has a way of finding decent players on the cheep. We just have to hope he can get someone that can make a big leap into a star. The Miami game got me thinking, they got Jimmy, Bam, Lowrey, Herro a good coach and some other nice pieces and there still barely hanging on in the playoff race. What does that say for us?

Unless Marks can pull a few rabbits out of hat, next season is going to be painful.
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Re: Early discussion on the 2023 offseason 

Post#153 » by Marvin Martian » Wed Mar 29, 2023 6:05 pm

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Eatgreenz wrote:
vincecarter4pres wrote:So it has to be discussed… do you think the Nets brass go for Dame if he hits the market and the asking price is, “reasonable”?

Dame would be perfect for this team. Only question other than how much we would to give up to get him is. How much prime yrs does have left that make the trade worth it

No one is taking Simmons. The organization needs to do everything in their power to help him get healthy and all the help he needs.

So maybe some combo of:

- Spencer
- Joe
- Cam T
- DFS
- 2-3 1sts

???

Spencer should be untouchable in any Dame trade. Dame has not been healthy over the past few years and you simply cannot count on him on his age. If he goes down for a significant amount of time, the season is over.
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Re: Early discussion on the 2023 offseason 

Post#154 » by MrDollarBills » Wed Mar 29, 2023 6:15 pm

Dame would be the guy to really unlock this roster's potential but his age and inability to stay healthy makes me say no.
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Post#155 » by Shark » Wed Mar 29, 2023 6:45 pm

Same. If we're making a move for a star to pair with Bridges then we'd have to look at someone a bit younger and durable. Problem is whether or not our assets are attractive enough to be able to get that player.
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Re: Early discussion on the 2023 offseason 

Post#156 » by GTR11 » Wed Mar 29, 2023 7:23 pm

Shark wrote:Same. If we're making a move for a star to pair with Bridges then we'd have to look at someone a bit younger and durable. Problem is whether or not our assets are attractive enough to be able to get that player.

1- Dame wouldn't want to come here. We ain't contender or got proven all star veterans.
2- Blazers FO would need some young player back with multiple picks. Only two teams that fit into those criterias, Miami and Philly. Cherry on top is that they in EC.

I think Miami more interested in Jalen Brown. It's just ATL will be right there too, and they got more assets to work with. So Dame is definitely in play for back up plan and I think both sides know it.
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Re: Early discussion on the 2023 offseason 

Post#157 » by TheNetsFan » Wed Mar 29, 2023 8:20 pm

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Shark wrote:Same. If we're making a move for a star to pair with Bridges then we'd have to look at someone a bit younger and durable. Problem is whether or not our assets are attractive enough to be able to get that player.

1- Dame wouldn't want to come here. We ain't contender or got proven all star veterans.
2- Blazers FO would need some young player back with multiple picks. Only two teams that fit into those criterias, Miami and Philly. Cherry on top is that they in EC.

I think Miami more interested in Jalen Brown. It's just ATL will be right there too, and they got more assets to work with. So Dame is definitely in play for back up plan and I think both sides know it.

I wonder if we can basically do the opposite with the Blazers some how. While he's overpaid, Simons would be an interesting fit & definitely add some scoring punch. I wonder of Portland looks for some win-now pieces to try to keep Dame happy & is willing to move Simons. Regardless if it's Simons or Dame, both put a hurt on 2025 FA aspirations though.
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Re: Early discussion on the 2023 offseason 

Post#158 » by 3pt_chucker » Wed Mar 29, 2023 11:19 pm

I'm more concerned about Dame's injuries and his ridiculous contract more than age tbh.
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Early discussion on the 2023 offseason 

Post#159 » by Keith Van Horn » Fri Mar 31, 2023 11:21 pm

I think a good exercise is to look at potential targets in tiers... how would your guard tiers look for?

1 - Absolutely unrealistic, pipe dream targets, but would lose it if it happened - SGA, Ja, Luka
2 - Could see a blockbuster deal here and compliments Bridges well - Trae & Dame
2.5 - Somewhere in between tiers - FVV
3 - Realistic targets but are they what this team really needs? - Lavine & Beal
4 - idk.... DLo?

How would you guys feel about any of these guard gets?

Edit- forgot about Luka
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Re: Early discussion on the 2023 offseason 

Post#160 » by Papi_swav » Sat Apr 1, 2023 6:01 am

What do ya'll think about Porzingis ?

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