Game #78: Clippers @ GRIZZ Part Deux—Friday 3/31 5PM

[esqtvd]

LATE ADD: Whoa. Watch the first 10 seconds. Ty is SICK of this shtt

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From the other thread:

When Kawhi has sat out for "load management" we have known about that. I don't think anyone should be hating on Kawhi taking a "personal" day shouldn't be assumed as load management.

Everybody gets the benefit of the doubt but this isn't the first time Kawhi has cancelled out on game day. When it's a pattern and not the exception, you just don't care anymore. Kawhi has operated under his own rules from the first, including showing up late for the team plane, etc. Private dressing room that first year. It's not a stretch to say this pattern is not conducive to team spirit.

A big part of it is all the mystery involved. Ty has often said he had no idea when Kawhi would be back during his many absences. Everyone's on a need-to-know basis, and that's added stress. Am I playing tonight? Am I starting tonight? What position? What matchup am I watching video on to prepare?

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[Dynamix]

Wasn't really expecting much from this game, but blowing that 20p lead was a bummer. I can appreciate Kawhi being out there and now gearing up for his first B2B since forever, but still felt wonky. Especially when you have other players saying they didn't even know he wouldn't be playing in the second half. It just messes with the flow and you have to wonder if the best decision would've been to sit him out entirely.

While another loss to the Pelicans won't make us a lock for the play-in, it would most likely mean having to win the last 3 games in order to avoid it. I can already hear the roar of the crowd whenever Russ touches the ball against the Lakers.

This team will send me to an early grave and it's still only the regular season. Having said that, I'd take a first round high intensity 7 game series against anyone, just as long as we make those damn playoffs.

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Just totally unfair to the team.

[Clemenza]

LATE ADD: Whoa. Watch the first 10 seconds. Ty is SICK of this shtt

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From the other thread:

When Kawhi has sat out for "load management" we have known about that. I don't think anyone should be hating on Kawhi taking a "personal" day shouldn't be assumed as load management.

Everybody gets the benefit of the doubt but this isn't the first time Kawhi has cancelled out on game day. When it's a pattern and not the exception, you just don't care anymore. Kawhi has operated under his own rules from the first, including showing up late for the team plane, etc. Private dressing room that first year. It's not a stretch to say this pattern is not conducive to team spirit.

A big part of it is all the mystery involved. Ty has often said he had no idea when Kawhi would be back during his many absences. Everyone's on a need-to-know basis, and that's added stress. Am I playing tonight? Am I starting tonight? What position? What matchup am I watching video on to prepare?

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Its starting to become obvious that the front office and coaching staff are tired of Kawhi's schtick

[The High Cyde]

Lue wasn’t doing himself any favors playing four guards together, this dude ain’t serious about winning.

[esqtvd]

Lue wasn’t doing himself any favors playing four guards together, this dude ain’t serious about winning.

did you see how Marcus's replacements did lol
2 points in 43 minutes

[The High Cyde]

Lue wasn’t doing himself any favors playing four guards together, this dude ain’t serious about winning.

did you see how Marcus's replacements did lol

Yeah, it was bad. No one is blameless here that’s for sure.

[esqtvd]

and in the disastrous 3rd quarter one of them was out there plus a center plus Mann, who's supposed to be a forward as well

the disaster lineups were
Powell-Mann-Westbrook-Zubac-Batum
Powell-Mann-Hyland-Plumlee-Covington

https://www.espn.com/nba/playbyplay/_/gameId/401469311

GAME SHAME LEADERS:
Mann minus-18
Hyland minus-20
Plumlee minus-22
Powell minus-31

no 4 guard lineups in the 3rd quarter even if you count Mann as a guard

9:07 Grizzlies Full timeout 58 60
8:56 Desmond Bane misses 26-foot three point jumper 58 60
8:55 Grizzlies offensive team rebound 58 60
8:51 Desmond Bane makes 7-foot two point shot (Xavier Tillman assists) 58 62
8:51 Norman Powell shooting foul 58 62
8:51 Desmond Bane makes free throw 1 of 1 58 63
8:30 Terance Mann misses 26-foot three point jumper 58 63
8:28 Grizzlies defensive team rebound 58 63
8:09 Dillon Brooks misses 6-foot two point shot 58 63
8:05 Xavier Tillman offensive rebound 58 63
8:05 Xavier Tillman misses tip shot 58 63
8:05 Terance Mann defensive rebound 58 63
7:48 Nicolas Batum misses 17-foot pullup jump shot 58 63
7:45 Xavier Tillman defensive rebound 58 63
7:36 Ja Morant bad pass (Ivica Zubac steals) 58 63
7:26 Russell Westbrook bad pass (Desmond Bane steals) 58 63
7:20 Xavier Tillman makes layup (Desmond Bane assists) 58 65
7:07 Jaren Jackson Jr. blocks Norman Powell 's 10-foot driving floating jump shot 58 65
7:04 Norman Powell offensive rebound 58 65
6:55 Norman Powell makes 8-foot driving floating jump shot (Nicolas Batum assists) 60 65
6:46 Norman Powell personal foul 60 65
6:46 Santi Aldama enters the game for Xavier Tillman 60 65
6:35 Ja Morant makes 3-foot two point shot 60 67
6:19 Russell Westbrook misses 15-foot pullup jump shot 60 67
6:11 Ja Morant defensive rebound 60 67
6:10 Nicolas Batum personal foul 60 67
6:03 Jaren Jackson Jr. lost ball turnover (Nicolas Batum steals) 60 67
5:57 Ivica Zubac makes dunk (Terance Mann assists) 62 67
5:44 Dillon Brooks makes 9-foot two point shot (Desmond Bane assists) 62 69
5:35 Russell Westbrook misses two point shot 62 69
5:33 Santi Aldama defensive rebound 62 69
5:25 Russell Westbrook blocks Ja Morant 's 4-foot dunk 62 69
5:21 Russell Westbrook defensive rebound 62 69
5:16 Terance Mann misses 23-foot three point shot 62 69
5:14 Dillon Brooks defensive rebound 62 69
5:12 Desmond Bane makes 25-foot three point shot (Dillon Brooks assists) 62 72
5:11 Clippers Full timeout 62 72
5:11 Luke Kennard enters the game for Desmond Bane 62 72
5:11 Bones Hyland enters the game for Russell Westbrook 62 72
5:11 Robert Covington enters the game for Nicolas Batum 62 72
4:58 Ivica Zubac lost ball turnover (Jaren Jackson Jr. steals) 62 72
4:54 Dillon Brooks makes dunk 62 74
4:39 Robert Covington misses driving floating jump shot 62 74
4:39 Grizzlies defensive team rebound 62 74
4:23 Ja Morant makes 3-foot two point shot 62 76
4:03 Jaren Jackson Jr. blocks Bones Hyland 's 13-foot driving floating jump shot 62 76
4:02 Santi Aldama defensive rebound 62 76
4:01 Bones Hyland personal foul 62 76
4:01 Dillon Brooks makes free throw 1 of 2 62 77
4:01 Mason Plumlee enters the game for Ivica Zubac 62 77
4:01 Dillon Brooks makes free throw 2 of 2 62 78
3:51 Norman Powell misses 6-foot two point shot 62 78
3:45 Mason Plumlee offensive rebound 62 78
3:45 Mason Plumlee misses dunk 62 78
3:44 Santi Aldama defensive rebound 62 78
3:42 Jaren Jackson Jr. misses 26-foot three point jumper 62 78
3:39 Terance Mann defensive rebound 62 78
3:32 Robert Covington misses 27-foot three point jumper 62 78
3:28 Jaren Jackson Jr. defensive rebound 62 78
3:24 Luke Kennard misses running pullup jump shot 62 78
3:19 Robert Covington defensive rebound 62 78
3:08 Jaren Jackson Jr. blocks Norman Powell 's 5-foot driving floating jump shot 62 78
3:08 Clippers offensive team rebound 62 78
3:08 Tyus Jones enters the game for Ja Morant 62 78
3:08 Desmond Bane enters the game for Dillon Brooks 62 78
3:03 Terance Mann misses 27-foot three point jumper 62 78
2:58 Jaren Jackson Jr. defensive rebound 62 78
2:55 Desmond Bane misses running pullup jump shot 62 78
2:50 Mason Plumlee defensive rebound 62 78
2:40 Norman Powell makes 24-foot three point jumper (Robert Covington assists) 65 78
2:16 Luke Kennard misses 24-foot step back jumpshot 65 78
2:12 Bones Hyland defensive rebound 65 78
2:06 Terance Mann bad pass (Tyus Jones steals) 65 78
1:51 Mason Plumlee blocks Jaren Jackson Jr. 's 3-foot dunk 65 78
1:48 Tyus Jones offensive rebound 65 78
1:43 Desmond Bane makes driving layup (Tyus Jones assists) 65 80
1:27 Desmond Bane shooting foul 65 80
1:27 Norman Powell makes free throw 1 of 2 66 80
1:27 David Roddy enters the game for Jaren Jackson Jr. 66 80
1:27 Norman Powell makes free throw 2 of 2 67 80
1:10 Santi Aldama makes dunk (David Roddy assists) 67 82
1:10 Bones Hyland shooting foul 67 82
1:10 Santi Aldama makes free throw 1 of 1 67 83
1:00 Mason Plumlee makes dunk (Norman Powell assists) 69 83
45.1 Santi Aldama makes driving layup (Tyus Jones assists) 69 85
45.1 Mason Plumlee shooting foul 69 85
45.1 Santi Aldama makes free throw 1 of 1 69 86
31.0 Mason Plumlee misses finger roll layup 69 86
29.0 Mason Plumlee offensive rebound 69 86
24.1 Bones Hyland makes 23-foot three pointer (Norman Powell assists) 72 86
0.0 Santi Aldama misses 3-foot two point shot 72 86
0.0 Santi Aldama offensive rebound 72 86
0.0 Santi Aldama misses tip shot 72 86
0.0 Grizzlies offensive team rebound 72 86
0.0 End of the 3rd Quarter 72 86

[clipperlover]

I don't think people are paying attention to the way the game works now, especially at the end of the season. You aren't trying to give games away, but you are also not trying to give your potential future playoff opponents as extra preparation material.

Griz sat out their players on Wed. Nuggets sat players vs Suns last night. 76ers sat Embiid vs Nuggets. Clips proved their point in Memphis. They saw what they needed to see. They are not afraid of Griz come playoff time.

There is so much gamesmanship. Is it frustrating? Yes. However, the playoffs are what matters. They take care of business tonight and they are essentially too many wins up with too few games left to fall into the play-in. The Clips, Lakers and Suns all play each other over the next 8 days. Pelicans have Minnesota on the horizon. Warriors travel to Nuggets tomorrow.

[nickhx2]

Lue wasn’t doing himself any favors playing four guards together, this dude ain’t serious about winning.

imagine thinking the 4 guard lineup would FINALLY work after getting killed by it all season long

[esqtvd]

I thought Mann is supposed to be able to play forward. NOT 4 guards, then, that's BS. :-O

Besides, the problem isn't 4 guards, it's that Powell is one of them. Since the all-star break, Powell is minus-11 per 100 possessions. That's ATROCIOUS. Next worst is Covington at minus-4.0, Plumlee at minus-1.9 and Morris at minus-1.2.

MINUS-11 PER 100 POSSESSIONS??


https://www.nba.com/stats/players/traditional?PerMode=Per100Possessions&SeasonSegment=Post%20All-Star&TeamID=1610612746&dir=A&sort=PLUS_MINUS