RS 22/23 - Mavs @ Hawks (Sund, 6PM EST)

[ejs78]

We still need to see an OKC win to help or 2 more Ls.

Who knows how this will end

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I don't see Mavs getting over OKC anymore. It's possible but unlikely.

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Playing the Kings on a b2b, the Bulls and Spurs. I don't want them in the play in but the way the season is going this may come down to the end.

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[Archx]

Hawks hunting Luka entire clutch and OT and havent scored once on him so far. Mavs still down by 2.

I thought that Bob was the bigger Luka fan but you take the cake. Offensively he was bad and yet you think he can’t be blamed? Weird.

I don't appreciate you editing your post midway through when i already answered you. I made a point about clutch defense but you're turning tables around talking about completely something else.

I do agree with you when it comes to offense, but that wasn't my point and it had nothing to do with what i said.

[Absinthe]

I’m not sure it’s possible for both Kyrie and Luka to both have great games within the same game and that is an enormous problem. Luka played like crap today. The Mavs need a coach that will ride his ass and tell him to quit taking so many threes, to get into better shape, and to quit turning the ball over.

[Archx]

We still need to see an OKC win to help or 2 more Ls.

Who knows how this will end

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I don't see Mavs getting over OKC anymore. It's possible but unlikely.

Read on Twitter

Playing the Kings on a b2b, the Bulls and Spurs. I don't want them in the play in but the way the season is going this may come down to the end.

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Looks like OKC will lose. There is no way Mavs can somehow sneak into play-in the way they play lol..

[ejs78]

I don't see Mavs getting over OKC anymore. It's possible but unlikely.

Read on Twitter

Playing the Kings on a b2b, the Bulls and Spurs. I don't want them in the play in but the way the season is going this may come down to the end.

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Looks like OKC will lose. There is no way Mavs can somehow sneak into play-in the way they play lol..

I agree but do we know what OKCs motives are? SGA could be sat at any time.

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[fuller4379]

Stick a fork in it. This team is done.

[arkuo]

I’m not sure it’s possible for both Kyrie and Luka to both have great games within the same game and that is an enormous problem. Luka played like crap today. The Mavs need a coach that will ride his ass and tell him to quit taking so many threes, to get into better shape, and to quit turning the ball over.

Luka wants to be Spanoulis so bad. Like a kid dunking trying to be like Michael Jordan.

[Absinthe]

OKC has no incentive to tank or miss the play in. They’re ahead of schedule, their top draft pick didn’t play a single game this season, they have cap space, and they have a ton of picks.

[ejs78]

OKC has no incentive to tank or miss the play in. They’re ahead of schedule, their top draft pick didn’t play a single game this season, they have cap space, and they have a ton of picks.

Tell that to Presti. Dude can't help himself to more picks.

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[leolozon]

Hawks hunting Luka entire clutch and OT and havent scored once on him so far. Mavs still down by 2.

I thought that Bob was the bigger Luka fan but you take the cake. He was a good tank commander in this game.

I guess I’m the only one who was rooting for a Mavs’ win.

What are you talking about? I'm pointing out the plays Hawks tried to make, like GSW last year in playoffs. I'm just saying he was holding his own, basically what everyone criticized him for.

"Star player needs to play defense"... Well, he did?

Also, Kyrie and him played 88 and 86 minutes in 2 games, i think they both did best they could.

You literally said that no one can blame Luka for the loss while he was bad on offense. Just a weird statement.

[arkuo]

Kyrie got the memo to foul Trae and lose the game. Because Mcgee forgot to miss the free throw on purpose. If the Mavs continue the tank, they will be the only team with two All NBA stars with a top 10 pick (with an outside chance to draft 1st overall). You can trade that lotto pick + 2027 FRP + THJ and Josh Green to get a good 3&D wing or just cough up both FRPs and get Myles Turner.

There’s no planet where Turner is worth two first round picks. I would trade one for him, but definitely not both.

I think it's what it would take to get it done. You F around the phone call and dangle a 2027 FRP that could be in the 20 something range by that time, all it takes is another team to swoop in with a better offer and the Mavs are back with Powell at center for 4 more seasons on a fresh contract. Beggars cant be choosy IMO and defensive 3&D centers don't come too often too. The free agent center market for 2023 and 2024 is thin. If the Mavs can wait for 2025 for a chance to sign someone decent then they can probably wait. But i dont think they're tanking 2 more seasons.

[arkuo]

OKC has no incentive to tank or miss the play in. They’re ahead of schedule, their top draft pick didn’t play a single game this season, they have cap space, and they have a ton of picks.

Tell that to Presti. Dude can't help himself to more picks.

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The picks are an excuse to not spend money on a big time FA IMO. The OKC owners dont have deep pockets like Balmer and the rest. It's not a big market too. So I think they're just rolling that time deposit forward and buying some time.

[Archx]

I thought that Bob was the bigger Luka fan but you take the cake. He was a good tank commander in this game.

I guess I’m the only one who was rooting for a Mavs’ win.

What are you talking about? I'm pointing out the plays Hawks tried to make, like GSW last year in playoffs. I'm just saying he was holding his own, basically what everyone criticized him for.

"Star player needs to play defense"... Well, he did?

Also, Kyrie and him played 88 and 86 minutes in 2 games, i think they both did best they could.

You literally said that no one can blame Luka for the loss while he was bad on offense. Just a weird statement.

I was referring to his defense in the clutch and OT, which was so often talked about lately. When Mavs were either up by a point or it was tied, Hawks were targeting him every single possession. You can blame him for the offense, i don't care, either way Kyrie for the most part took over the offense, it was his show. But you can't say Mavs lost because he didn't show any effort on that end.

Looks like OKC will lose. There is no way Mavs can somehow sneak into play-in the way they play lol..

I agree but do we know what OKCs motives are? SGA could be sat at any time.

Man, it's going to be a bloodbath. Yeah i'm not sure OKC is trying to actually lose

[Absinthe]

Kyrie got the memo to foul Trae and lose the game. Because Mcgee forgot to miss the free throw on purpose. If the Mavs continue the tank, they will be the only team with two All NBA stars with a top 10 pick (with an outside chance to draft 1st overall). You can trade that lotto pick + 2027 FRP + THJ and Josh Green to get a good 3&D wing or just cough up both FRPs and get Myles Turner.

There’s no planet where Turner is worth two first round picks. I would trade one for him, but definitely not both.

I think it's what it would take to get it done. You F around the phone call and dangle a 2027 FRP that could be in the 20 something range by that time, all it takes is another team to swoop in with a better offer and the Mavs are back with Powell at center for 4 more seasons on a fresh contract. Beggars cant be choosy IMO and defensive 3&D centers don't come too often too. The free agent center market for 2023 and 2024 is thin. If the Mavs can wait for 2025 for a chance to sign someone decent then they can probably wait. But i dont think they're tanking 2 more seasons.

The South Carolina PF/C has gotten Bam comparisons. Very athletic, stays in front of defenders, high motor, excellent rebounder, and has a post up game and three point range.

[arkuo]

There’s no planet where Turner is worth two first round picks. I would trade one for him, but definitely not both.

I think it's what it would take to get it done. You F around the phone call and dangle a 2027 FRP that could be in the 20 something range by that time, all it takes is another team to swoop in with a better offer and the Mavs are back with Powell at center for 4 more seasons on a fresh contract. Beggars cant be choosy IMO and defensive 3&D centers don't come too often too. The free agent center market for 2023 and 2024 is thin. If the Mavs can wait for 2025 for a chance to sign someone decent then they can probably wait. But i dont think they're tanking 2 more seasons.

The South Carolina PF/C has gotten Bam comparisons. Very athletic, stays in front of defenders, high motor, excellent rebounder, and has a post up game and three point range.

Yeah I've been reading up on the guy as well. Rookie big men take a longer time to develop though. It takes around 2 to 3 seasons to get these guys up to NBA shape. By then we are halfway through the Luka and Kyrie max contracts. I just think these two are ready to jump out of the gates and compete by next season. And for that you'd need someone who's ready to go for 38 mins in a seven game series in the playoffs. Im afriad that Dwight Powell will have to start over the rookie if Kidd runs out of ideas.

[ejs78]

What are you talking about? I'm pointing out the plays Hawks tried to make, like GSW last year in playoffs. I'm just saying he was holding his own, basically what everyone criticized him for.

"Star player needs to play defense"... Well, he did?

Also, Kyrie and him played 88 and 86 minutes in 2 games, i think they both did best they could.

You literally said that no one can blame Luka for the loss while he was bad on offense. Just a weird statement.

I was referring to his defense in the clutch and OT, which was so often talked about lately. When Mavs were either up by a point or it was tied, Hawks were targeting him every single possession. You can blame him for the offense, i don't care, either way Kyrie for the most part took over the offense, it was his show. But you can't say Mavs lost because he didn't show any effort on that end.

Looks like OKC will lose. There is no way Mavs can somehow sneak into play-in the way they play lol..

I agree but do we know what OKCs motives are? SGA could be sat at any time.

Man, it's going to be a bloodbath. Yeah i'm not sure OKC is trying to actually lose

They could be organically tanking like the Mavs

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[SOUNDCHASER]

I think it's what it would take to get it done. You F around the phone call and dangle a 2027 FRP that could be in the 20 something range by that time, all it takes is another team to swoop in with a better offer and the Mavs are back with Powell at center for 4 more seasons on a fresh contract. Beggars cant be choosy IMO and defensive 3&D centers don't come too often too. The free agent center market for 2023 and 2024 is thin. If the Mavs can wait for 2025 for a chance to sign someone decent then they can probably wait. But i dont think they're tanking 2 more seasons.

The South Carolina PF/C has gotten Bam comparisons. Very athletic, stays in front of defenders, high motor, excellent rebounder, and has a post up game and three point range.

Yeah I've been reading up on the guy as well. Rookie big men take a longer time to develop though. It takes around 2 to 3 seasons to get these guys up to NBA shape. By then we are halfway through the Luka and Kyrie max contracts. I just think these two are ready to jump out of the gates and compete by next season. And for that you'd need someone who's ready to go for 38 mins in a seven game series in the playoffs. Im afriad that Dwight Powell will have to start over the rookie if Kidd runs out of ideas.

He wouldn't be a bad pick wonder how he compares with UCF's Taylor Hendricks. Wonder if a trade down situation would get us what we want in someone else and another asset in trade Like Turner. Indiana has a lot of picks so they may want to offer us a player for a chance to get another high pick with a trade down for something later so that we could get Miles Turner and a later pick in the first or 2nd by negotiating that into the deal since they have so many picks.

[TheBallsDeeper]

There’s no planet where Turner is worth two first round picks. I would trade one for him, but definitely not both.

I think it's what it would take to get it done. You F around the phone call and dangle a 2027 FRP that could be in the 20 something range by that time, all it takes is another team to swoop in with a better offer and the Mavs are back with Powell at center for 4 more seasons on a fresh contract. Beggars cant be choosy IMO and defensive 3&D centers don't come too often too. The free agent center market for 2023 and 2024 is thin. If the Mavs can wait for 2025 for a chance to sign someone decent then they can probably wait. But i dont think they're tanking 2 more seasons.

The South Carolina PF/C has gotten Bam comparisons. Very athletic, stays in front of defenders, high motor, excellent rebounder, and has a post up game and three point range.

Gregory Jackson? 6'9 with a 6'10 wingspan normally doesn't translate to defensive ability in the NBA. Bam is a great defender and has 5 inches on his winspan. Don't see the comparison.

[TheBallsDeeper]

*Philly fan who watches a lot of other teams - here with a genuine question*

That foul late in regular time seemed like a pretty bad move, it turned off the shot clock and meant another foal would send Atlanta to the line. It cost Dallas a clear last shot at the win.

Was that Luka's call or Kidd's?

[Mavrelous]

Great game, fell asleep at the halftime, 2 more losses, Kings deserve a 50 wins season and Bulls are still in play for 8th seed, we must help them!