Offseason Thread

[Braggins]

Jay Triano has been getting some hype this season and seems to have engineered two top tier offenses in back to back years in Charlotte and Sacramento, not exactly NBA powerhouse franchises.

Hes a little older and he had a short head coaching stint back in the day that didn't go well, but maybe he has leveled up under Mike Brown the way Mike Brown did under Kerr. Maybe he was a bad fit as an offensive coach when he got his first shot and is a better fit for the league now. I don't really know much about him before the last few years, so I don't know if he really has head coaching potential.

He definitely wouldn't be a main option for me or anything, but I just think he is an interesting dude in general to maybe get a shot as a head coach somewhere.

[JDR720]

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[Benjamin Linus]

Jay Triano has been getting some hype this season and seems to have engineered two top tier offenses in back to back years in Charlotte and Sacramento, not exactly NBA powerhouse franchises.

Hes a little older and he had a short head coaching stint back in the day that didn't go well, but maybe he has leveled up under Mike Brown the way Mike Brown did under Kerr. Maybe he was a bad fit as an offensive coach when he got his first shot and is a better fit for the league now. I don't really know much about him before the last few years, so I don't know if he really has head coaching potential.

He definitely wouldn't be a main option for me or anything, but I just think he is an interesting dude in general to maybe get a shot as a head coach somewhere.

Triano might be some sort of offensive mastermind


SAC last season (without Triano) - 25th offense rating, 25th 3P%
SAC this season (with Triano) - 1st offense rating, 8th 3P%


CLT last season (with Triano) - 9th offense rating, 6th 3P%
CLT this season (without Triano) - 30th offense rating, 29th 3P%

[Braggins]

Apparently there is going to be a 3rd two-way roster spot added with the new CBA. Pretty good timing with all the picks Charlotte has in the next draft.

[LofJ]

Apparently there is going to be a 3rd two-way roster spot added with the new CBA. Pretty good timing with all the picks Charlotte has in the next draft.

Excellent timing, we might actually be able to hold onto Maledon now (which we should).

[Snidely FC]

not much wiggle room with the current roster

Lamelo DSJ
Rozier Oubre Bryce Svi Bouknight
Hayward Cody
PJ Miles Thor
Williams Richards Kai
(Maledon Two-Way)

Assume Miles resigns. Svi most likely not signed? Maybe Maledon stays on 2-way?
Still, no room for incoming draft picks (4, 28, 34, 39)
Something's got to give, some one's gotta go
Who's it gonna be?

[SWedd523]

Zero chance they bring in 4 rookies.

Highly unlikely even 3 picks stay

[Hornet Mania]

not much wiggle room with the current roster

Lamelo DSJ
Rozier Oubre Bryce Svi Bouknight
Hayward Cody
PJ Miles Thor
Williams Richards Kai
(Maledon Two-Way)

Assumes Miles resigns. Svi most likely not signed? Maybe Maledon stays on 2-way?
Still, no room for incoming draft picks (4, 28, 34, 39)
Something's got to give, some one's gotta go
Who's it gonna be?

Rozier and Oubre, please.

Gordo and Cody work fine at SG and PJ/Miles are presumably the starting Fs.

I can understand Terry being back, no reason to trade him for peanuts, but there is no reason to give Oubre a contract offer at this point given the logjam we have.

[LofJ]

Zero chance they bring in 4 rookies.

Highly unlikely even 3 picks stay

This, with the new more punitive CBA on luxury tax teams it shouldn't be a hard sell to get the Heat, Warriors, or Clippers to trade back with us for the Denver pick and the Jazz pick. That still leaves us with 3 picks, but we could use the additional two-way for our 2nd rounder or draft an international guy we could stash.

[JDR720]

We'll package two of the 2nd rounders like we did in this draft.

Don't see why we wouldn't keep Svi. He fits well, seems almost like a poor mans Gordon with his shooting + decent passing. Keep him over Oubre 10/10 times.

Like I've mentioned before, Rozier needs to go. If we don't get Wemby, the top 5 pick will be a guard or SF. No sense in keeping Rozier in either case, especially if Miles is back.

Melo - DSJ - ?
Gordon - Top Pick
Miles - Martin
PJ - Thor
Mark - Nick

We have a lot of flexibility. Hopefully Mitch or the new owners (if we get them) don't screw it up.

[SWedd523]

No reason to keep Svi if they keep Kelly (No reason to keep Kelly if they keep Svi either).

[bravor]

There are couple of draft and stash options this year. But i doubt they don't gamble on at the very least 3 rookies for flexibility purpose (and the late 1st and 2nd rounders are pretty useful here).
Bridges/Washington will command a fair share of $ and Ball's extension is closer day by day. Rozier being still in the team (it's not like it will be easy to move him unless some good trade happens and probably between three/four teams, rozier going for a team rebuilding) so you can't take him out as easily.
The biggest "?" is the market for Hayward's expiring. I have been waiting for this, i am curious to see how it will turn out (knowing unfortunately next draft bring a fair share of good wing prospects), from draft day (i would not be surprised if he's moved then) to the offseason (less likely to see him being moved i'd think)

[Braggins]

I wouldn't keep Oubre or Svi and I would still trade Rozier, regardless of whether or not any of the picks were consolidated (maybe keep Svi if they have an extra roster spot).

LaMelo Ball
Gordon Hayward
Miles Bridges (or someone they trade him for)
PJ Washington
Cody Martin
Dennis Smith Jr.
Nick Richards
James Bouknight
Mark Williams
Kai Jones
Theo Maledon
JT Thor
Bryce McGowens
CHA 1st (1-8)
DEN 1st (28)
CHA 2nd (34)
UTA 2nd (39)

Thats 17 and they have 3 two-way spots.

Edit: I didn't mean to leave out DSJ. I just forgot him lol.

[LofJ]

So what guys should we bring back next season?

Most everyone seems to agree that PJ and probably Bridges should be back. But what about the backup point guard position? I don't think it's a great idea to go into next season with a rookie filling that role. At least one of DSJ or Maledon should be a priority in free agency.

[LofJ]

I guess we could also fill the backup point guard role via trade. If Chris Paul gets injured in the playoffs again and the Suns fall flat maybe Rozier would be an attractive option for them. He might not be happy with it, but who knows NC is home for him. And if we also get lucky and win the lottery I don't think it's out of the question. You might not like him as a player, but he's a culture changer and has won everywhere he's been. LaMelo and whoever we draft couldn't ask for better mentors.

[fatlever]

If the plan is to try to compete for the Playoffs next year, then we absolutely must consolidate some of the youth on the roster and start adding some experienced veterans to the bench.

We can't go into next season with a bench of Theo, bouk, Thor, Kai, nick, Bryce, svi and bunch of rookies.

Dsj or an even more experienced backup Point guard, preferably one who is a very solid Defender is an absolute must.

A proven legit 3pt sniper, preferably one who can also defend at a league avg rate would be fantastic.

A vet big who can either shoot or protects the rim to play as PJs or marks primary backup.

If the plan is to try to hang around in the 8 to 12 spot again in the East next year then by all means let's just run it back with the same team plus some rookies.

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[bravor]

I don't think age or nba years is the most important here (and elsewhere). What matters is competitiveness.

if it was just a question of age/experience, LA would not struggle to even get in post season, and on the other hand Memphis would struggle (and both teams had their share of injuries/off the court issues). that's just two examples (not necessary the most glaring ones). You also have Washington who don't play much of its young players and oh surprise, once they traded a few and decided to play Avdija, the guy is starting to show why he was hyped in Europe.

A careless veteran won't help, a young competitive stud won't necessary torpedo team's win column from his mistakes.

But you need a much better balance as it's been said already plenty of times. You can't pile on very raw projects and expect miracles turnout. In the rookie mix, you need to pick some playable/plugable prospects. At this point the ceiling is not the goal, the highest floor is...
Knowing good playable prospects on rookie contracts are money in the bank if you talk about consolidating (knowing Bridges is still a BIG, MAJOR "?" as far as i know, right ?).

Wing depth should be the goal for this offseason (draft included). Guys like Miller, Thomson (really not high on them though, especially with already immature guys in the team), Withmore and dudes like Colby Jones in the 2nd round (versatile forward with decent passing/scoring and solid defense), Lewis if he was not fall.
Considering Bridges and PJ should bt there and will eat a lot of minutes, it's not like you won't have room for them (even with Cody, knowing Colby Jones could be a good replacement profile wise, which would turn Cody into a nice asset).

As for the rest (the other alpha to pair with Ball) obviously a lot will depend on the 1st pick. If charlotte hits the jackpot, it's not like there is any hesitation on who to draft.
Knowing i would stick to the idea i had months ago, trying to trade VW (+Hayward's expiring) for Zion/Ingram. That would provide a core of Ball/Ingram/Zion, the oldest being Ingram (with 25 yo).

[LofJ]

If the plan is to try to compete for the Playoffs next year, then we absolutely must consolidate some of the youth on the roster and start adding some experienced veterans to the bench.

We can't go into next season with a bench of Theo, bouk, Thor, Kai, nick, Bryce, svi and bunch of rookies.

Dsj or an even more experienced backup Point guard, preferably one who is a very solid Defender is an absolute must.

A proven legit 3pt sniper, preferably one who can also defend at a league avg rate would be fantastic.

A vet big who can either shoot or protects the rim to play as PJs or marks primary backup.

If the plan is to try to hang around in the 8 to 12 spot again in the East next year then by all means let's just run it back with the same team plus some rookies.

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I want a proven, veteran winner on this team. I don't care how they do it, but we need someone like Chris Paul, Jimmy Butler, Marcus Smart, Paul George, Draymond Green, etc. on this roster.

[Braggins]

I wouldn't look to add anyone that isn't a draft pick tbh. Maybe leave a "Haslem" spot open for Biyombo or something. I would rather give the young guys the opportunity to grow into leadership roles than bring in some washed up veteran to hijack the team and try to use Charlotte as their last opportunity to try to relive the glory days.

If something like a Rozier for Lowry swap is available, and they can get a veteran leader who is on a short contract and won't try to take over the team on the court as much, then I think that could be beneficial, but it would have to be a very specific situation like that to get me interested. Otherwise it would not be a big priority for me.

I don't think they'll have the assets to realistically compete in a trade for a true star (maybe if teams value Miles), so the more realistic scenario for Charlotte bringing in a veteran is getting a "30+ year old Dwight Howard doing post isos and shooting long 2s" situation.

[Snidely FC]

I wouldn't look to add anyone that isn't a draft pick tbh. Maybe leave a "Haslem" spot open for Biyombo or something. I would rather give the young guys the opportunity to grow into leadership roles than bring in some washed up veteran to hijack the team and try to use Charlotte as their last opportunity to try to relive the glory days.

If something like a Rozier for Lowry swap is available, and they can get a veteran leader who is on a short contract and won't try to take over the team on the court as much, then I think that could be beneficial, but it would have to be a very specific situation like that to get me interested. Otherwise it would not be a big priority for me.

I don't think they'll have the assets to realistically compete in a trade for a true star (maybe if teams value Miles), so the more realistic scenario for Charlotte bringing in a veteran is getting a "30+ year old Dwight Howard doing post isos and shooting long 2s" situation.

What would you think of trading Rozier to CHI for Lonzo Ball? Already announced that Lonzo will not play in '23-'24 but when he returns the following yr will be age 26, might then be veteran depth alongside Lamelo and create good will with the Ball family, while as you note opening pt for young player growth