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Will Andrew Wiggins regain his 2022 playoff form?

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Post#241 » by HiRez » Mon Apr 3, 2023 9:18 pm

Great news if true. Now let's just hope the Dubs can win their remaining games (presumably without Wiggins) to avoid the play-in and then Wiggs can get into game shape fast enough to help. Which might be needed as soon as the first round depending on who they draw, but they might be able to win a series without him, or at less than 100%.
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Re: Will Andrew Wiggins regain his 2022 playoff form? 

Post#242 » by azwfan » Mon Apr 3, 2023 10:38 pm

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wco81 wrote:I still don't get him having to be away for almost 2 months because of his father's protracted illness.

Sure a couple of weeks but he also has siblings.

He has familial responsibilities but what about his professional responsibilities.

You have to wonder where his head will be, aside from lack of fitness when the team most needed him.

None of us would get 2 months of bereavement leave and certainly not for being bedside to a loved one who was sick. Maybe a couple of weeks but not two months.

As I explained earlier, that is false.

FMLA allows for extended leave in situations like this, and the majority of American workers are eligible for FMLA under the right circumstances. Whether or not FMLA applies to NBA players, the idea that someone would get 2 months off to care for a family member isn't weird. The fact that you expect him to bounce a ball for your amusement while his father might be dying is weird.

As for his brother,
a) maybe he only needed one person to care for him
b) maybe the brother doesn't get along with him or isn't as close
c) it isn't any of our business. It is their family.

Personally, I'm glad the team respected his prioritization of his family and provided support, and I'm glad some of your opinions are completely irrelevant on the subject.

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Re: Will Andrew Wiggins regain his 2022 playoff form? 

Post#243 » by xdrta+ » Mon Apr 3, 2023 10:41 pm

HiRez wrote:Great news if true. Now let's just hope the Dubs can win their remaining games (presumably without Wiggins) to avoid the play-in and then Wiggs can get into game shape fast enough to help. Which might be needed as soon as the first round depending on who they draw, but they might be able to win a series without him, or at less than 100%.


I expect he'll start playing limited minutes the last few games. Why not?
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Post#244 » by KingFox » Mon Apr 3, 2023 10:43 pm

Super happy for Wiggins and the Dubs. Hopefully ya'll get that 5th seed and leave us alone though :lol: you'd eat us alive, i fear.
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Post#245 » by Jerry Maine » Mon Apr 3, 2023 10:55 pm

KingFox wrote:Super happy for Wiggins and the Dubs. Hopefully ya'll get that 5th seed and leave us alone though :lol: you'd eat us alive, i fear.


Cheers man

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Re: Will Andrew Wiggins regain his 2022 playoff form? 

Post#246 » by wco81 » Mon Apr 3, 2023 11:11 pm

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wco81 wrote:I still don't get him having to be away for almost 2 months because of his father's protracted illness.

Sure a couple of weeks but he also has siblings.

He has familial responsibilities but what about his professional responsibilities.

You have to wonder where his head will be, aside from lack of fitness when the team most needed him.

None of us would get 2 months of bereavement leave and certainly not for being bedside to a loved one who was sick. Maybe a couple of weeks but not two months.

As I explained earlier, that is false.

FMLA allows for extended leave in situations like this, and the majority of American workers are eligible for FMLA under the right circumstances. Whether or not FMLA applies to NBA players, the idea that someone would get 2 months off to care for a family member isn't weird. The fact that you expect him to bounce a ball for your amusement while his father might be dying is weird.

As for his brother,
a) maybe he only needed one person to care for him
b) maybe the brother doesn't get along with him or isn't as close
c) it isn't any of our business. It is their family.

Personally, I'm glad the team respected his prioritization of his family and provided support, and I'm glad some of your opinions are completely irrelevant on the subject.


Even if a company was forced to give you paid leave for 2 months like that, they are going to look at you a certain way, when it comes to ranking you vs. others for the purposes of salary increases or layoffs.

Companies don't just give a couple of months of pay for someone not working, not willingly. Stingy employers are loath to give 2 m months salary when they do lay you off.
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Re: Will Andrew Wiggins regain his 2022 playoff form? 

Post#247 » by wco81 » Mon Apr 3, 2023 11:14 pm

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wco81 wrote:I don't want to hear any more times how he's got a messed up situation.

I get it, it's horrible or whatever.

To me those are excuses. He's getting paid tens of millions to play basketball. It's been two months now. Either someone died or is going through some marathon misery. Or there was a betrayal and it's broken him.

But don't tell me any more how horrible it is.

If the Warriors are willing to give him all that rope, that's their prerogative. They look dumb now saying they still hope he will return.

For what exactly? He's probably not physically able to play at the levels the team needs him to and probably after all this time, his head is not in the game.

I mean maybe the situation is so f'd up that he may never play again.

If the team and teammates are fine with it, that's very generous of them.

But he's letting them down, just as he would have let them down if he didn't get vaccinated and he was banned from playing games.

Warriors need to seriously petition the team about getting some salary cap relief. They may be legally bound to pay him but if he's still not playing in October when the next season starts, they need to get some other bodies in here and they shouldn't be penalized for a player who will have been unavailable for almost the entire year.

They have to get some kind of exemption so his full salary doesn't count on their payroll and they can sign some other vet.

This is why players like to play for the Warriors - the winning, Steph Curry, but also because the team treats its players like family. These are human beings. and sometimes human beings need time for things that are more important than a game.



That's all fine and good but they may in the end have squandered one of the remaining years of Curry's greatness.

Not only the games missed but he may not be able to contribute much.

They may end up in the play-in so they may not be able to wait on him ramping up.

Again, he chose to be away. A lot of other people in a similar situation wouldn't have taken all that time.

Hell is his father okay or why is he returning now?

His head may not be in the right place to compete at the most demanding levels, which is what the team needs.
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Post#248 » by DevinVassell » Mon Apr 3, 2023 11:17 pm

I think we can all agree... that was what you'd call an acceptable absence and lightyears away from Kyrie Irving or Ben Simmons kind of bllsht. Welcome back Wiggs!
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Re: Will Andrew Wiggins regain his 2022 playoff form? 

Post#249 » by watch1958 » Mon Apr 3, 2023 11:34 pm

wco81 wrote:
Twinkie defense wrote:
wco81 wrote:I don't want to hear any more times how he's got a messed up situation.

I get it, it's horrible or whatever.

To me those are excuses. He's getting paid tens of millions to play basketball. It's been two months now. Either someone died or is going through some marathon misery. Or there was a betrayal and it's broken him.

But don't tell me any more how horrible it is.

If the Warriors are willing to give him all that rope, that's their prerogative. They look dumb now saying they still hope he will return.

For what exactly? He's probably not physically able to play at the levels the team needs him to and probably after all this time, his head is not in the game.

I mean maybe the situation is so f'd up that he may never play again.

If the team and teammates are fine with it, that's very generous of them.

But he's letting them down, just as he would have let them down if he didn't get vaccinated and he was banned from playing games.

Warriors need to seriously petition the team about getting some salary cap relief. They may be legally bound to pay him but if he's still not playing in October when the next season starts, they need to get some other bodies in here and they shouldn't be penalized for a player who will have been unavailable for almost the entire year.

They have to get some kind of exemption so his full salary doesn't count on their payroll and they can sign some other vet.

This is why players like to play for the Warriors - the winning, Steph Curry, but also because the team treats its players like family. These are human beings. and sometimes human beings need time for things that are more important than a game.



That's all fine and good but they may in the end have squandered one of the remaining years of Curry's greatness.

Not only the games missed but he may not be able to contribute much.

They may end up in the play-in so they may not be able to wait on him ramping up.

Again, he chose to be away. A lot of other people in a similar situation wouldn't have taken all that time.

Hell is his father okay or why is he returning now?

His head may not be in the right place to compete at the most demanding levels, which is what the team needs.
I saw a post the other day saying, definitively, Wiggins wasn’t coming back. Can’t find it now. Like someone didn’t want to get called out on it.

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Post#250 » by watch1958 » Mon Apr 3, 2023 11:38 pm

Curry doesn’t seem concerned about Wiggins “wasting a year of his prime”. Some posters here should think about that.
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Re: Will Andrew Wiggins regain his 2022 playoff form? 

Post#251 » by wco81 » Mon Apr 3, 2023 11:46 pm

watch1958 wrote:Curry doesn’t seem concerned about Wiggins “wasting a year of his prime”. Some posters here should think about that.



He would never say it publicly.

The question posed by the thread title is still unanswered.

I hope he proves me wrong and he's as good as last year.

But I wouldn't expect it.
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Post#252 » by Big J » Mon Apr 3, 2023 11:46 pm

watch1958 wrote:Curry doesn’t seem concerned about Wiggins “wasting a year of his prime”. Some posters here should think about that.


He doesn't seem that way because he's a great teammate, however if Wiggins hadn't come back and we'd lost he probably would have always wondered what if?
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Post#253 » by azwfan » Mon Apr 3, 2023 11:49 pm

KingFox wrote:Super happy for Wiggins and the Dubs. Hopefully ya'll get that 5th seed and leave us alone though :lol: you'd eat us alive, i fear.

Congrats on making the playoffs. While I think its natural for a team not as experienced in the post season to be weary of a highly experienced team, we’ve proven all year long that we arent that team this season… while your team has. Things are looking up in Sac. Good luck in the playoffs, after we get whooped in tbe playin/1st rd, Ill be rooting for the Kings.
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Post#254 » by Twinkie defense » Mon Apr 3, 2023 11:51 pm

You can always point to what ifs, but same with every team - usually you don't go into the season or playoffs with everyone available, healthy, and clicking.
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Post#255 » by Big J » Mon Apr 3, 2023 11:53 pm

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KingFox wrote:Super happy for Wiggins and the Dubs. Hopefully ya'll get that 5th seed and leave us alone though :lol: you'd eat us alive, i fear.

Congrats on making the playoffs. While I think its natural for a team not as experienced in the post season to be weary of a highly experienced team, we’ve proven all year long that we arent that team this season… while your team has. Things are looking up in Sac. Good luck in the playoffs, after we get whooped in tbe playin/1st rd, Ill be rooting for the Kings.


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Post#256 » by Onus » Tue Apr 4, 2023 12:30 am

Sounds like Wiggins won’t suit up Tuesday.
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Re: Will Andrew Wiggins regain his 2022 playoff form? 

Post#257 » by HiRez » Tue Apr 4, 2023 12:42 am

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HiRez wrote:Great news if true. Now let's just hope the Dubs can win their remaining games (presumably without Wiggins) to avoid the play-in and then Wiggs can get into game shape fast enough to help. Which might be needed as soon as the first round depending on who they draw, but they might be able to win a series without him, or at less than 100%.


I expect he'll start playing limited minutes the last few games. Why not?

Well it says "Golden State's Andrew Wiggins plans to attend Warriors-Thunder on Tuesday". And attend sounds like "be there" but not "be playing". But I dunno, maybe? Hopefully. There's not really any information on his shape or ability to suit up so hard to say.
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Post#258 » by Jerry Maine » Tue Apr 4, 2023 12:58 am

The guy will be ready

Last two games plus either the play-in game(s) or a week of scrimmaging will see him near 100%

He's not been sitting around smashing beers like Luka
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Post#259 » by tarantism » Tue Apr 4, 2023 2:08 am

It's worth nothing that last season the Curry/Klay/Wigs/Dray group played *zero* regular season minutes together and were still almost +10 in the postseason.

We aren't the favorites but I bet nobody wants to play us now.

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Re: Will Andrew Wiggins regain his 2022 playoff form? 

Post#260 » by Onus » Tue Apr 4, 2023 2:13 am

HiRez wrote:
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HiRez wrote:Great news if true. Now let's just hope the Dubs can win their remaining games (presumably without Wiggins) to avoid the play-in and then Wiggs can get into game shape fast enough to help. Which might be needed as soon as the first round depending on who they draw, but they might be able to win a series without him, or at less than 100%.


I expect he'll start playing limited minutes the last few games. Why not?

Well it says "Golden State's Andrew Wiggins plans to attend Warriors-Thunder on Tuesday". And attend sounds like "be there" but not "be playing". But I dunno, maybe? Hopefully. There's not really any information on his shape or ability to suit up so hard to say.

He’s been ruled out for tomorrow.
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