2023 Draft Discussion Part III

[BoyzNTheHood]

Colby Jones is going to get the Quentin Grimes, Ayo Dosunmu award for overlooked prospect because he isn't a freshman or soph, but will be super effective in the NBA.

Yeah, we’ve talked about him in-depth. He’s really good, really solid. And depending on who’s available I wouldn’t be opposed to taking him at our pick.

[Kevin Willis]

Shooting consistency is something that is often developed in the NBA. His form isn't broken. His dimensions are rumoured to be Kawhi's, so of course his length/size will serve him well in the NBA. Overall I'm just saying the stats from the NBL are harder to make predictions on, and that would go for any 16-17 year old playing pro minutes in Europe (even at lower levels).

Without Kawhi's hand size he's just Thabo Sefolosha to me, and I seriously doubt he has Kawhi's hands

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That wasn't what the poster was concerned about and so it's irrelevant to my reply. If his size/length is the same as Kawhi's it will be an asset in the NBA as well.

As for the second part, if he's Thabo, well, he's one of the best defensive players in the NBA and that's a great pick outside the top 10.

I was thinking the same, getting Thabo at our pick would be a great get.

[REJECTEDBYCLARK]

Colby Jones is going to get the Quentin Grimes, Ayo Dosunmu award for overlooked prospect because he isn't a freshman or soph, but will be super effective in the NBA.

I don't think anyone on this board is overlooking Colby Jones and NBA GMs probably aren't either.

[OakleyDokely]

Colby Jones is going to get the Quentin Grimes, Ayo Dosunmu award for overlooked prospect because he isn't a freshman or soph, but will be super effective in the NBA.

I don't think anyone on this board is overlooking Colby Jones and NBA GMs probably aren't either.

I meant more in terms of the mocks I've been seeing.

[REJECTEDBYCLARK]

Colby Jones is going to get the Quentin Grimes, Ayo Dosunmu award for overlooked prospect because he isn't a freshman or soph, but will be super effective in the NBA.

I don't think anyone on this board is overlooking Colby Jones and NBA GMs probably aren't either.

I meant more in terms of the mocks I've been seeing.

Mocks are all over the place with Jones I've seen him go like 15-16ish and also like 26-27ish.

Everything about him screams long NBA career.

He will come into the NBA immediately possessing one of the best push shots of any player in the entire league.

[Mark_83]

Bufkin is currently among the top 5-6 names I like for our pick (not including guys like Wallace or Hendricks who I don't think will be around). I need to see all the measurements and see who is staying in the draft before I rank them, but right now that group is:

Coulibaly
Bufkin
Kugel
George
Cissoko
Whitehead

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[ill-Will03]

Bufkin is currently among the top 5-6 names I like for our pick (not including guys like Wallace or Hendricks who I don't think will be around). I need to see all the measurements and see who is staying in the draft before I rank them, but right now that group is:

Coulibaly
Bufkin
Kugel
George
Cissoko
Whitehead

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Haven’t watched much of Coulibaly, but I know for sure that we desperately need some shooting and shot creation from our guards. Does he fit the bill?

[WuTang_CMB]

Colby Jones is going to get the Quentin Grimes, Ayo Dosunmu award for overlooked prospect because he isn't a freshman or soph, but will be super effective in the NBA.

I love his game. Mature/intelligent game. Gets to his spots nicely. 3 coming along. Really carried Xavier this yr. Brogdon 2.0

[BoyzNTheHood]

I’m under the firm belief that we’ll be looking for guard play this offseason. The first opportunity to do that is through the draft, so let’s assume we’re finishing with either 12, 13, or 14 in the draft barring some sort of lottery miracle.

I’d say your top 11 guys should be Wemby, Scoot, Miller, Walker, Hendricks, Wallace, Black, Whitmore, Dick, and the Thompson twins.

That leaves us with George, Hawkins, Howard, NSJ, Bufkin, Rupert, JHS, Jones, Whitehead, Coulibaly, Podz, and Sasser.

Personally, I’ll rank my top 5 from that group in order of who I’d take first to last. I can’t lie, I’m a sucker for potential so I’d probably take George first, then Sasser who I see as Lillard light, then Bufkin, followed by Hawkins, and finally Jones.

[REJECTEDBYCLARK]

We need to come out of this draft with 2 guards. I'd be ecstatic if we can get two of Wallace/Sasser/Jones/Bufkin. Bufkin is the riskiest of the 4 but he has shown really impressive gameplay towards the end of the year and can do things our current guards can't and which has held our team back.

[Mark_83]

Bufkin is currently among the top 5-6 names I like for our pick (not including guys like Wallace or Hendricks who I don't think will be around). I need to see all the measurements and see who is staying in the draft before I rank them, but right now that group is:

Coulibaly
Bufkin
Kugel
George
Cissoko
Whitehead

Watch on YouTube

Haven’t watched much of Coulibaly, but I know for sure that we desperately need some shooting and shot creation from our guards. Does he fit the bill?

He projects too but he's the furthest from it on the list.

He reminds me physically of a young OG with better footwork, handles, and explosiveness at the same stage. He's long and athletic, but his body looks like its gonna pack on muscle same as OG's did. For reference, here's what OG looked like in HS.

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[ItsDanger]

Need a half court shot maker more than anything else. Sure some of these guys have intriguing potential but won't matter much if the roster gets zoned up all the time.

[dozo]

Bufkin is currently among the top 5-6 names I like for our pick (not including guys like Wallace or Hendricks who I don't think will be around). I need to see all the measurements and see who is staying in the draft before I rank them, but right now that group is:

Coulibaly
Bufkin
Kugel
George
Cissoko
Whitehead

Watch on YouTube

Haven’t watched much of Coulibaly, but I know for sure that we desperately need some shooting and shot creation from our guards. Does he fit the bill?

He projects too but he's the furthest from it on the list.

He reminds me physically of a young OG with better footwork, handles, and explosiveness at the same stage. He's long and athletic, but his body looks like its gonna pack on muscle same as OG's did. For reference, here's what OG looked like in HS.

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[Rapsfan07]

Colby Jones is going to get the Quentin Grimes, Ayo Dosunmu award for overlooked prospect because he isn't a freshman or soph, but will be super effective in the NBA.

I love his game. Mature/intelligent game. Gets to his spots nicely. 3 coming along. Really carried Xavier this yr. Brogdon 2.0

Yep. I think he's Josh Hart at the worst, Malcolm Brogdon at the best. I think he's very likely to outperform his draft position.

Good thing about him is I think he might go under the radar at the combine. He doesn't have a crazy quick twitch or insane leaping ability but he's very, very sound and does a little of everything. Individual workouts could be a different story though.

[Rapsfan07]

Outside of Wallace and Hendricks, who likely won't be available where we pick, the only guy I really care for at 14-15 is Kobe Bufkin.

I think Keyonte George is almost a must pick if he's available at that point but if there's the possibility of moving back to grab say Jones and someone else, that might be a better use of the pick.

[Psubs]

Need a half court shot maker more than anything else. Sure some of these guys have intriguing potential but won't matter much if the roster gets zoned up all the time.

Cissoko is already shooting BEYOND the NBA 3. He just turned 19 a couple of days ago.

I think that Cissoko looks more like OG with better handles and passing.

[BoyzNTheHood]

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[Mark_83]

Haven’t watched much of Coulibaly, but I know for sure that we desperately need some shooting and shot creation from our guards. Does he fit the bill?

He projects too but he's the furthest from it on the list.

He reminds me physically of a young OG with better footwork, handles, and explosiveness at the same stage. He's long and athletic, but his body looks like its gonna pack on muscle same as OG's did. For reference, here's what OG looked like in HS.

Watch on YouTube

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[grant101]

Haven’t watched much of Coulibaly, but I know for sure that we desperately need some shooting and shot creation from our guards. Does he fit the bill?

He projects too but he's the furthest from it on the list.

He reminds me physically of a young OG with better footwork, handles, and explosiveness at the same stage. He's long and athletic, but his body looks like its gonna pack on muscle same as OG's did. For reference, here's what OG looked like in HS.

Watch on YouTube

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Young OG is an interesting comp - at least frame-wise. If you think he grows into his body in a similar way, then he's a no-brainer pick. Admittedly though, you have to squint a little harder to see it with BIlal than with other prospects in this draft. He's not as assertive as you would like with the big-club. But, IMO he's got the highest ceiling outside of the top 2 (and possibly the Thompson twins if they ever learn to shoot). Reminds me a little of high-school era TMAC (with a little less pop, but a better jumper). It just hasn't clicked for him yet, but once it does, he's got all the tools to be the complete package.... much like TMAC actually.

[Psubs]

Young OG is an interesting comp - at least frame-wise. If you think he grows into his body in a similar way, then he's a no-brainer pick. Admittedly though, you have to squint a little harder to see it with BIlal than with other prospects in this draft. He's not as assertive as you would like with the big-club. But, IMO he's got the highest ceiling outside of the top 2 (and possibly the Thompson twins if they ever learn to shoot). Reminds me a little of high-school era TMAC (with a little less pop, but a better jumper). It just hasn't clicked for him yet, but once it does, he's got all the tools to be the complete package.... much like TMAC actually.

People like to be optimistic but frame-wise Mikal Bridges or Bruno Caboclo would be best comps. Perhaps he has higher bbiq and better handles than Bruno, but does he have enough to be a starter in the NBA?

Did Bilal have a late growth spurt? Why wasn't he on the radar for France's under 18? Their program just missed him? I'm curious.

https://dailyhive.com/toronto/raptors-ujiri-travelled-to-france-wembanyama

Did he go and see Wemby and think, I'll just trade for Poeltl instead of going for Victor? I guess he saw Bilal play too. He previously scouted Theo Maledon and passed on him.