Wisconsin Badgers Thread

[ReginaldDwight]

Think about what we had playing for us this season talent wise.

Gilmore PWO
McGee Transfer from UWGB
Lindsey Transfer from UNLV
Davis - a tagalong recruit because of his brother - would never have gotten a scholarship here otherwise
Essegian Top 150 recruit freshman

That's not a recipe for success, but Essegian seems to be a hit.

McGee had to forget all that Will Ryan **** no wonder he struggled.

[DingleJerry]

Think about what we had playing for us this season talent wise.

Gilmore PWO
McGee Transfer from UWGB
Lindsey Transfer from UNLV
Davis - a tagalong recruit because of his brother - would never have gotten a scholarship here otherwise
Essegian Top 150 recruit freshman

That's not a recipe for success, but Essegian seems to be a hit.

Right, it's actually crazy they got that close with the majority of their rotation being non high major recruits.

But they had to play because of the many times mentioned junior class issues (Davis, Carlson, Bowman). And then the Soph class only 1/4 has been able to get on the floor in Chucky. It could work and I hope it would to trust the next freshmen who are in the same general ballpark as recruits as the Sophs to play right away but it's sure tough to bank on it. Especially with big men that need to be physical. Would be nice to bring in a couple people we know are good enough

[LittleRooster]

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[MikeIsGood]

Sweet. Welcome aboard, Noah.

[MVP2110]

Should be a solid sparkplug off the bench. The Badgers desperately needed someone could create their own shot and get to the rim

[RiotPunch]

Obviously, anyone could cut up a highlight reel to make themselves look like an All-American , but

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Looks like a great addition, filling a gaping hole of a need to manufacture points in the halfcourt. Pretty excited.

[midranger]

Really good pickup.

[Kerb Hohl]

Yeah, I like it.

His efficiency numbers aren’t great, but if you dig in it’s because the coach put the ball in his hands *a lot* and he had turnover issues. Can shoot/score well. This is probably a good place to be go reduce turnovers.

[tski1972]

He’s a lefty so he’s automatically a winner.

[jute2003]

He’s a lefty so he’s automatically a winner.

And probably a little weird, but that's ok...

[chonestown]

They don't have anybody like him on the roster. Anybody that can serve as a slump-buster is welcome.

[RiotPunch]

Yeah, I like it.

His efficiency numbers aren’t great, but if you dig in it’s because the coach put the ball in his hands *a lot* and he had turnover issues. Can shoot/score well. This is probably a good place to be go reduce turnovers.

He appears to have some pro-level stuff in his bag as a handler/shooter/driver. Lots of step-backs, euros, putting dudes in jail, etc. That alone greases the wheels a good bit for us on offense, I think. Agree he will automatically have lower usage and few possessions per game, thus I don't think turnovers will be a thing. Curious to see how his style translates to B1G play.

[DingleJerry]

That's a seemingly good get in the areas they need, some quickness, athleticism, shot making, etc. Solid step 1 for Gardo on the redemption tour, lol. Hopefully at least get a big of some kind now and if possible a wing with some athleticism and ability to shoot. Add 3 players like that and it's a whole new team.

[Kerb Hohl]

Just because I'm so used to minimal roster turnover historically with the program and "we can't offer you a starting spot" type recruiting with likely all 5 starters returning, I am having a hard time believing they'll get another wing/guard. I do think he will get a frontcourt guy to add to the mix because he understands how this works now and he can't just roll in there with Carter Gilmore again.

The only downside of Reynolds is that to me it feels like they may not be in on Domask or Rohde now, but maybe that's just the old me not thinking that Gard will be able to add 3 legitimate transfers to the rotation that already has 5 solidified guys with others on the fringes (Gilmore, the freshmen, etc.).

[DingleJerry]

Yea I'd agree with the athletic wing type as a pipe dream bonus. Have to have the big though.

Reynolds could easily start, but either way those 3 guards should handle all the guard mins. I guess the selling point on the wing is there is legit nobody after Essegian. Reynolds actually slides down as the '3'. So really for 3 spots you only have 4 guys. Which is generally fine but a legit bigger wing could see his line to mins here, especially if he's big enough to pass as a stretch 4 type. An alternative to finding a true big would be a 3/4 type wing who's big/thick enough to play small ball 4. Would likely be a better shooter then too. Thinking about it more, I'd rather have someone like that than a Vogt type clone.

[chonestown]

Yea I'd agree with the athletic wing type as a pipe dream bonus. Have to have the big though.

Reynolds could easily start, but either way those 3 guards should handle all the guard mins. I guess the selling point on the wing is there is legit nobody after Essegian. Reynolds actually slides down as the '3'. So really for 3 spots you only have 4 guys. Which is generally fine but a legit bigger wing could see his line to mins here, especially if he's big enough to pass as a stretch 4 type. An alternative to finding a true big would be a 3/4 type wing who's big/thick enough to play small ball 4. Would likely be a better shooter then too. Thinking about it more, I'd rather have someone like that than a Vogt type clone.

Agree on the 3/4 wing need, though a backup to Chucky is still a hole as well. Blackwell didn't strike me as PG-capable.

This goes way beyond Gard, but I wonder how programs will handle the portal without antagonizing both confirmed and targeted recruits. If all of a sudden, there is now a surplus of players at one position, how does that shake down to recruiting?

I tend to think we're not going to know who the "good" coaches/program heads are for a few more years. Have to see some cycles to see how it shakes out. Sure, it's going to be interesting to see how Gard does with it, but if UW moves on, the criteria for picking a successor is a lot different than it was two years ago.

[Kerb Hohl]

I think the issue for getting a "3" (which, imo, the 2/3 is interchangeable at UW, basically the same thing) is the minutes available.

A good non-big man probably could and should play 30-35 minutes.

Klesmit and Chucky played 32/game. Essegian was at 27 but probably more like 30 once Davis got pushed out. Throw Reynolds in the mix getting time at each spot and for the 1-3 spots you've got only ~30 minutes for him since the starters are all playing 30. Reynolds can maybe bring the ball up sometimes with Chucky out or maybe McGee who is hanging around gets 5 minutes some games to do that.

A good forward plays 25-30. Crowl and Wahl played 30/game last year. That only leaves 20 min/game for the transfer they get, but you could probably talk it up to 25 given Crowl/Wahl maybe aren't as good as we thought.

Point being - it's going to be hard to get Rohde or Domask if they see 4 legitimate guys already dividing up 120 minutes from the 1-3.

I chided Gard a bit for not being more aggressive in filling out the bench minutes (which could've become starter minutes - Basille would've overtaken Wahl or Crowl last year) but it's still hard to convince guys to play less.

UConn and some of the great teams do find ways to get enough players that the stars are only playing 27-28 minutes and they mix in the other guys for 15. I don't know if Gard is in a recruiting position to be able to get a well-regarded recruit and talk him into a smaller role like some of these teams.

[DingleJerry]

Yea chances are it's only one spot for someone expecting to play next year. I think in my last post I talked myself into the bigger 3/4 type rather than a true big for that spot. But in UWs situation there's some bird in the hand going on, first one you deem as good enough to play 20+ mins in the B1G who can shoot.

ETA: I think PG mins are fine. Max and the new guy can soak up the 8-10 mins chucky isn't out there. And have Mcgree in emergencies.

[Kerb Hohl]

Yea chances are it's only one spot for someone expecting to play next year. I think in my last post I talked myself into the bigger 3/4 type rather than a true big for that spot. But in UWs situation there's some bird in the hand going on, first one you deem as good enough to play 20+ mins in the B1G who can shoot.

ETA: I think PG mins are fine. Max and the new guy can soak up the 8-10 mins chucky isn't out there. And have Mcgree in emergencies.

McGee is oddly a guy I'd really like to keep around assuming he wants to stay.

He's competent in 5 minute spurts if you need him. More importantly, he is more of a natural PG if Chucky misses 10 games with an injury. I'd rather have a guy that is not bad at this role to be around in an emergency.

I guess Domask could be a "4" maybe? You could argue it would work to have Wahl play a very small center and Domask at the 4. Rohde I'm not so sure because he's pretty slight. It wouldn't be crazy to play a 4 guard-ish lineup though in today's game.

[DingleJerry]

Yea chances are it's only one spot for someone expecting to play next year. I think in my last post I talked myself into the bigger 3/4 type rather than a true big for that spot. But in UWs situation there's some bird in the hand going on, first one you deem as good enough to play 20+ mins in the B1G who can shoot.

ETA: I think PG mins are fine. Max and the new guy can soak up the 8-10 mins chucky isn't out there. And have Mcgree in emergencies.

McGee is oddly a guy I'd really like to keep around assuming he wants to stay.

He's competent in 5 minute spurts if you need him. More importantly, he is more of a natural PG if Chucky misses 10 games with an injury. I'd rather have a guy that is not bad at this role to be around in an emergency.

I guess Domask could be a "4" maybe? You could argue it would work to have Wahl play a very small center and Domask at the 4. Rohde I'm not so sure because he's pretty slight. It wouldn't be crazy to play a 4 guard-ish lineup though in today's game.

In today's basketball it's not crazy and would be fine vs most teams other than Purdue. I guess oddly several off the deep run teams had giants as role players too, which is kinda rare these days.

I guess I haven't seen Domask play since HS, he's from my home area, but I think he's only 6'5ish and I don't think he'd have the athleticism I'd hope for in the perfect guy. Someone with some quickness, bounce, and all that. If you're 6'6 but thick, quick, and can jump is much different than being 6'6 and planted to the floor. But, maybe Domask has improved on that. There's just so many guys on other teams you'd think we could find one to improve the athleticism. But, bird in the hand, he's 6'6 (so close to tall enough) and I bet his wingspan is good and he can shoot. Probably comfortable in a bench role, I think only 1 year left so doesn't annoy the incoming freshman. He checks a lot of the boxes other than the athleticism.