2022-2023 Regular Season Game 80: Cleveland Cavaliers (50-30) at Orlando Magic (34-45) -7pm

[Knightro]

Portland quietly up 5 on San Antonio.

If the Spurs out tank the Blazers, the Magic could lose their way back down into a tie for 5th.

[thelead]

The league needs to fix it but with where we are in the rebuild, this should have been done about 2 weeks ago alongside Portland and Indy. Both had better records than us 2 weeks ago. I hate it but it's how the 'game' has been set up.

I don't agree with this though. We had a chance at the play in because we didn't know how the Bulls or Wizards would do and Bulls got hot out of nowhere. There was an equally good chance to make it depending on circumstances. They did the right thing in competing until they were out of it.

We'll see how it plays out but Indy had a MUCH better chance at the play-ins and they still shut down their best players. Like I've said before, just pulling WCJ and playing Mo a ton would have been enough without needing to sit Franz and Paolo.

[eyriq]

You guys are making me feel like a monster for not giving a flying **** about other people’s money

I'm right there with ya

[CZ Eddie]

Cameraman getting some Suggs Hugs

[eyriq]

Portland quietly up 5 on San Antonio.

If the Spurs out tank the Blazers, the Magic could lose their way back down into a tie for 5th.

HUGE

[3ddman23]

With how expensive this game was going for how so?? I looked into this game since it was the final home game and saw the prices and said he'll no. Then they announced the starters weren't playing and I dodged a major bullet.

Oh, I'm definitely not talking about extortionate ticket prices. You have me completely on board with that.

But you're not a Facebook fan or Twitter Magic fan, I consider people on RealGM (despite all of our bickering and debating) to be like, a place where most people have common sense.. we knew our already minuscule playin hopes were dashed with the last Cavs game, and we're tied in the standings with 3 games left and every other team is already tanking. Anybody buying a ticket to this just because it's a "fan night" is taking a huge risk.

Obviously if someone bought it a while ago then it sucks. Like I said, I know it's the final home game but I think the team should look at how most teams operate during the last week and realize there's going to be an issue with that.

I get what your saying but they could have easily played the starter the first quarter or something and let them sit the rest of the game. Most likely would been the same out come, ending in an L. But I see what you mean don't want to risk Injury.

[thelead]

Portland quietly up 5 on San Antonio.

If the Spurs out tank the Blazers, the Magic could lose their way back down into a tie for 5th.

HUGE

They were up on Memphis last game and then pulled the players that were playing well. They are ruthless.

[Optimus_Steel]

Explain to me why WeHam picked up Okeke's option? Major fail.

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[FFBlitzace]

With how expensive this game was going for how so?? I looked into this game since it was the final home game and saw the prices and said he'll no. Then they announced the starters weren't playing and I dodged a major bullet.

Oh, I'm definitely not talking about extortionate ticket prices. You have me completely on board with that.

But you're not a Facebook fan or Twitter Magic fan, I consider people on RealGM (despite all of our bickering and debating) to be like, a place where most people have common sense.. we knew our already minuscule playin hopes were dashed with the last Cavs game, and we're tied in the standings with 3 games left and every other team is already tanking. Anybody buying a ticket to this just because it's a "fan night" is taking a huge risk.

Obviously if someone bought it a while ago then it sucks. Like I said, I know it's the final home game but I think the team should look at how most teams operate during the last week and realize there's going to be an issue with that.

You said it there in the last paragraph. If you had bought tickets weeks ago, sure, you might not have known that this would be the exact game we played immediately after being eliminated. But that still doesn't really mean anything. I already know right now that our final home game of 2024 is unlikely to be a relevant game. Same for our final home game of 2025 and 2026. The majority of the time, your fate is essentially sealed by this point, whether you're a good team or a bad team. If I buy tickets to home game 41, I'm attending the game just for the sake of it, not because my heart is set on seeing specific players.

[SOUL]

We'll see how it plays out but Indy had a MUCH better chance at the play-ins and they still shut down their best players. Like I've said before, just pulling WCJ and playing Mo a ton would have been enough without needing to sit Franz and Paolo.

Wasn't Haliburton legit injured though for a while? I don't know when the rest of the guys got pulled.

I just think at some point, you are testing fate with greed. We got the 1st pick after finishing 2nd, we got the 5th and 8th pick after finishing 3rd worst. We probably weren't "supposed to" be this bad without injuries.

I have no problem tanking after being mathematically eliminated with a young team wanting to play well. At some point you are playing with careers when it comes to coaching and players because of 3-5% and it's not based in any sort of reality besides being mathematically the smarter thing to do, which again, I'm not opposed to if you take the nuance and reality out of everything, which is why I was perfectly fine tanking the two previous years since we were in dire need of assets and young talent.

[basketballRob]

The Trailblazers even sat Sharpe.

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[thelead]

We'll see how it plays out but Indy had a MUCH better chance at the play-ins and they still shut down their best players. Like I've said before, just pulling WCJ and playing Mo a ton would have been enough without needing to sit Franz and Paolo.

Wasn't Haliburton legit injured though for a while? I don't know when the rest of the guys got pulled.

I just think at some point, you are testing fate with greed. We got the 1st pick after finishing 2nd, we got the 5th and 8th pick after finishing 3rd worst. We probably weren't "supposed to" be this bad without injuries.

I have no problem tanking after being mathematically eliminated with a young team wanting to play well. At some point you are playing with careers when it comes to coaching and players because of 3-5% and it's not based in any sort of reality besides being mathematically the smarter thing to do, which again, I'm not opposed to if you take the nuance and reality out of everything, which is why I was perfectly fine tanking the two previous years since we were in dire need of assets and young talent.

I'm not losing sleep over it but I would much rather have better odds at adding another Paolo or Franz than not.

[thelead]

The Trailblazers even sat Sharpe.

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They sat him in a tied game in the 4th quarter last game. Just disgusting.

[eyriq]

Amazing how a good play can just re-energize the team but then they turn it over

[Knightro]

Explain to me why WeHam picked up Okeke's option? Major fail.

He's just had a brutal regression/injury riddled season.

I think coming into the year they clearly had plans for him to be in the rotation. But then he got hurt and it just really didn't work out.

[eyriq]

This is pretty close to a g League product right now

[VFX]

We'll see how it plays out but Indy had a MUCH better chance at the play-ins and they still shut down their best players. Like I've said before, just pulling WCJ and playing Mo a ton would have been enough without needing to sit Franz and Paolo.

Wasn't Haliburton legit injured though for a while? I don't know when the rest of the guys got pulled.

I just think at some point, you are testing fate with greed. We got the 1st pick after finishing 2nd, we got the 5th and 8th pick after finishing 3rd worst. We probably weren't "supposed to" be this bad without injuries.

I have no problem tanking after being mathematically eliminated with a young team wanting to play well. At some point you are playing with careers when it comes to coaching and players because of 3-5% and it's not based in any sort of reality besides being mathematically the smarter thing to do, which again, I'm not opposed to if you take the nuance and reality out of everything, which is why I was perfectly fine tanking the two previous years since we were in dire need of assets and young talent.

I think this weirdly came down to our schedule this season. We got better toward the end of the season as expected and started playing some tanking teams with a completely new look Brooklyn team.

Orlando should have been better, but the tank race was too tight that dropping 4 spots isn’t really ideal if they had a long shot at the play in.

It’s not something to freak out about. It just isn’t an ideal situation with young guys and still a wip roster.

[Knightro]

Looking at the Blazers box score, there's not really anyone they can sit in the 2nd half. They're either gonna win or lose with the scrubs playing because that's their only option.

[eyriq]

I don't really know how to process their scrubs destroying our scrubs like this.

[Optimus_Steel]

Explain to me why WeHam picked up Okeke's option? Major fail.

He's just had a brutal regression/injury riddled season.

I think coming into the year they clearly had plans for him to be in the rotation. But then he got hurt and it just really didn't work out.

I mean he's always been injured....we even drafted him injured lmao. The fact he is injured is not shocking.

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