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Re: Orlando Magic Big Board (4th Pick) 

Post#81 » by Petre1978 » Fri Apr 7, 2023 11:23 am

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Bensational wrote:Amen’s size, athleticism and passing are a very special package. I think he’ll need some time to settle into his game, but if he adds a 3pt shot then he’ll be a tough matchup for anyone.

I can see a path for his development if he comes off the bench in year 1. With his size he can play the wing alongside Cole and share playmaking duties while he adapts. I imagine Suggs gets the starting 2 spot next year so if the other bench wing is a shooter (or Franz on subs), Amen will probably be able to do some special work. He has strong defensive potential and I think with our defensive culture he’ll start fulfilling that pretty quickly.

if we are picking at 4, i cant see myself passing on the potential of Amen.
Is he a great shooter? No, but he does so many other things well and like you said if he gets his shooting up, he could be special (yes i know thats a big IF, and usually one im big on)

Wouldnt be upset if we went safer with Gradey, auser, anthony black* or even someone like Hendricks if we just want to go with BPA regardless of position, but Amen would be my top choice

* Really funny how much support ive see for Black on this board this year considering.......hes seems like a taller Fultz and its pretty obvious the feelings about fultz here

The Fultz thing says enough about the people here....
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Re: Orlando Magic Big Board (4th Pick) 

Post#82 » by Petre1978 » Fri Apr 7, 2023 11:26 am

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He had a rough season but the 3level scoring potential is too big to not take him.
Just my opinion.
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Re: Orlando Magic Big Board (4th Pick) 

Post#83 » by Petre1978 » Fri Apr 7, 2023 11:31 am

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Love Keyonte. He would fit in that backcourt snug as a bug

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Re: Orlando Magic Big Board (4th Pick) 

Post#84 » by Petre1978 » Fri Apr 7, 2023 11:32 am

thelead wrote:4, for me, is such a tough choice...

Do you want 'potential'? You take Amen
Do you want 3&D? You take Hendricks
Do you want a pure shooter? You take Gradey Dick
Do you want a 'basketball player'? You take Anthony Black
Do you want a scorer? You take Keyonte

I wouldn't complain about any of those guys... except maybe Amen. Just not a huge fan of his or Ausar.

4 is way too high for Gradey though.

That leaves Keyonte, Black, and Hendricks for me. I'm not sure who I would pick of those 3 but any of them would be fine.

Edit: These may be lazy comps but who would you rather have, Anfernee Simons, Josh Giddey, or JJJ?

I may have just talked myself out of Keyonte for the 4 spot :lol:

Now it's between Black and Hendricks.

2nd Edit: Decided to go with Hendricks.... but it's so close between him and Black for me. Similar to how I feel about Scoot vs Miller right now.

So my lotto big board, so far, is:

Wemby
Scoot
Miller
Hendricks
Black
Keyonte
Walker
Cam
Gradey
Amen
Ausar
Cason
Hawkins
GG

I agree.
Choice is so difficult.
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Re: Orlando Magic Big Board (4th Pick) 

Post#85 » by Petre1978 » Fri Apr 7, 2023 11:35 am

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Amen is a jumpshot from being a superstar. His athleticism & size at the PG position is unheard of.


Ja Morant: 30.8% 3PT%
Yeah, I see closer to MCW than Morant, but we'll see.

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MCW didn't have this kind of first step and athleticism.
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Re: Orlando Magic Big Board (5th Pick) 

Post#86 » by eyriq » Fri Apr 7, 2023 12:17 pm

Amen Thompson clinches the 4th spot on the Big Board with 35%. Eight other players secured votes! Brice Sensabaugh has been added to the poll.
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Re: Orlando Magic Big Board (5th Pick) 

Post#87 » by Petre1978 » Fri Apr 7, 2023 12:26 pm

eyriq wrote:Amen Thompson clinches the 4th spot on the Big Board with 35%. Eight other players secured votes! Brice Sensabaugh has been added to the poll.

People are against Fultz yet they voted for Amen Thompson with the 4th pick...
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Re: Orlando Magic Big Board (5th Pick) 

Post#88 » by JoshuaPotter » Fri Apr 7, 2023 1:57 pm

Petre1978 wrote:
eyriq wrote:Amen Thompson clinches the 4th spot on the Big Board with 35%. Eight other players secured votes! Brice Sensabaugh has been added to the poll.

People are against Fultz yet they voted for Amen Thompson with the 4th pick...


Yawn.

Oh and I voted for Assur Thompson for the 5th pick. I like the idea of the upside, the ceiling and the fact that if one explodes twins love to replicate success even if they never achieve the same level.

After the Thompson twins though, I am on the BPA train. Looks like Dick will likely beat out the other twin though. I'm not mad about that. Dick would have been my next choice after the twins if we had the 6th pick and all went according to our voted consensus.
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Re: Orlando Magic Big Board (4th Pick) 

Post#89 » by Skybox » Fri Apr 7, 2023 3:07 pm

Petre1978 wrote:
eyriq wrote:
MasterGMer wrote:
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Love Keyonte. He would fit in that backcourt snug as a bug

I love your posts Sir!!


he's certainly tantalizing...Donovan Mitchell or Monta Ellis or Wildly inefficient Rookie Cole? I think a lot will come to interviews/mentality
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Re: Orlando Magic Big Board (4th Pick) 

Post#90 » by Petre1978 » Fri Apr 7, 2023 3:10 pm

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Petre1978 wrote:
eyriq wrote:Love Keyonte. He would fit in that backcourt snug as a bug

I love your posts Sir!!


he's certainly tantalizing...Donovan Mitchell or Monta Ellis or Wildly inefficient Rookie Cole? I think a lot will come to interviews/mentality

Rough season for George with ups and downs but his 3level scoring potential is too big to not draft him.
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Re: Orlando Magic Big Board (4th Pick) 

Post#91 » by JoshuaPotter » Fri Apr 7, 2023 4:18 pm

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Skybox wrote:
Petre1978 wrote:I love your posts Sir!!


he's certainly tantalizing...Donovan Mitchell or Monta Ellis or Wildly inefficient Rookie Cole? I think a lot will come to interviews/mentality

Rough season for George with ups and downs but his 3level scoring potential is too big to not draft him.


Challenge being is his ceiling better then what we have clearly?

I am not saying I wouldn't be mad drafting him and fitting him snugly into our pedestrian Guard rotation. Which is just that. Pedestrian.

The hope would be he develops into something better then what we have. Not just that he fits. Plenty of guards "fit".
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Re: Orlando Magic Big Board (5th Pick) 

Post#92 » by Magic#1 » Fri Apr 7, 2023 5:05 pm

I went with NSJ barely over Dick for 5th. I love Dick's fit for our team, but feel his ceiling is higher than Dick. His floor could also be lower, but the skills and size are there to really fit well for us. George also fits really well like others have said.
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Re: Orlando Magic Big Board (5th Pick) 

Post#93 » by VFX » Fri Apr 7, 2023 6:51 pm

I like the idea of Hendricks, but how is this guy going to get minutes with Bol and Okeke still on the roster?

Even the best case scenario is that Paolo and Franz are still needing a majority of minutes down the stretch of games.

Not the greatest way to spend lottery picks if we are undoubtedly handing out max money to both of them already.

I can kind of buy in on Whitmore if he’s capable as a big SG.. Hendricks I’m not sure. The same goes for Walker.
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Re: Orlando Magic Big Board (5th Pick) 

Post#94 » by Def Swami » Fri Apr 7, 2023 7:32 pm

MagicMatic wrote:I like the idea of Hendricks, but how is this guy going to get minutes with Bol and Okeke still on the roster?

Even the best case scenario is that Paolo and Franz are still needing a majority of minutes down the stretch of games.

Not the greatest way to spend lottery picks if we are undoubtedly handing out max money to both of them already.

I can kind of buy in on Whitmore if he’s capable as a big SG.. Hendricks I’m not sure. The same goes for Walker.

Bol might not be on this team next season. And outplaying Okeke for minutes doesn't seem that hard at this point. We could use an upgrade at the back up forward spots.
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Re: Orlando Magic Big Board (5th Pick) 

Post#95 » by Skybox » Fri Apr 7, 2023 7:37 pm

MagicMatic wrote:I like the idea of Hendricks, but how is this guy going to get minutes with Bol and Okeke still on the roster?

Even the best case scenario is that Paolo and Franz are still needing a majority of minutes down the stretch of games.

Not the greatest way to spend lottery picks if we are undoubtedly handing out max money to both of them already.

I can kind of buy in on Whitmore if he’s capable as a big SG.. Hendricks I’m not sure. The same goes for Walker.


I'd rather draft a starter, but I don't see one (other than Scoot), so I would be good with a guy who can go 4/5 or 3/4 if he's the likeliest to succeed. I like what Hendricks brings but I have fears that his physicality disappears against NBA bodies (like Nnaji or Precious to some degree)...I'd still take a shot with Hendricks as Isaac-like off the bench.

Whitmore IS interesting if he can slide to 2, but I have doubts.

Bol and Okeke will hopefully have zero bearing on roster decisions. Bol has no role and Okeke's disappearance this season hurts.

I really think the BIG answers to our offensive creation issues lie in the trade market...or, possibly FA.

Like you, I expect nothing significant...but they really should do something this summer before all the extensions start hitting.
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Re: Orlando Magic Big Board (5th Pick) 

Post#96 » by eyriq » Fri Apr 7, 2023 7:50 pm

This is interesting, with the way the voting is going the winner may start another tier, leaving Amen in tier 3 all by himself. I kind of like that, seems to fit. Wisdom of the masses is such a champ.
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Re: Orlando Magic Big Board (5th Pick) 

Post#97 » by Bensational » Fri Apr 7, 2023 8:54 pm

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MagicMatic wrote:I like the idea of Hendricks, but how is this guy going to get minutes with Bol and Okeke still on the roster?

Even the best case scenario is that Paolo and Franz are still needing a majority of minutes down the stretch of games.

Not the greatest way to spend lottery picks if we are undoubtedly handing out max money to both of them already.

I can kind of buy in on Whitmore if he’s capable as a big SG.. Hendricks I’m not sure. The same goes for Walker.

Bol might not be on this team next season. And outplaying Okeke for minutes doesn't seem that hard at this point. We could use an upgrade at the back up forward spots.


With the way we play, positions aren’t all that traditional in general. We play zone on defense so a player isn’t defending their positional matchup at all times. Hendricks can cover the perimeter and when he’s pulled into the paint he’s the best weak side shot blocker in the draft.

Offensively, Hendricks could easily play the Gary Harris role of camping on the perimeter for kick outs. But better than Harris, he can be a second screener for pick and pop like WCJ, allowing for action off either elbow.
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Re: Orlando Magic Big Board (5th Pick) 

Post#98 » by Petre1978 » Fri Apr 7, 2023 10:07 pm

Bensational wrote:
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MagicMatic wrote:I like the idea of Hendricks, but how is this guy going to get minutes with Bol and Okeke still on the roster?

Even the best case scenario is that Paolo and Franz are still needing a majority of minutes down the stretch of games.

Not the greatest way to spend lottery picks if we are undoubtedly handing out max money to both of them already.

I can kind of buy in on Whitmore if he’s capable as a big SG.. Hendricks I’m not sure. The same goes for Walker.

Bol might not be on this team next season. And outplaying Okeke for minutes doesn't seem that hard at this point. We could use an upgrade at the back up forward spots.


With the way we play, positions aren’t all that traditional in general. We play zone on defense so a player isn’t defending their positional matchup at all times. Hendricks can cover the perimeter and when he’s pulled into the paint he’s the best weak side shot blocker in the draft.

Offensively, Hendricks could easily play the Gary Harris role of camping on the perimeter for kick outs. But better than Harris, he can be a second screener for pick and pop like WCJ, allowing for action off either elbow.

I like your point of view
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Re: Orlando Magic Big Board (5th Pick) 

Post#99 » by RookieStar » Fri Apr 7, 2023 10:21 pm

Def Swami wrote:
MagicMatic wrote:I like the idea of Hendricks, but how is this guy going to get minutes with Bol and Okeke still on the roster?

Even the best case scenario is that Paolo and Franz are still needing a majority of minutes down the stretch of games.

Not the greatest way to spend lottery picks if we are undoubtedly handing out max money to both of them already.

I can kind of buy in on Whitmore if he’s capable as a big SG.. Hendricks I’m not sure. The same goes for Walker.

Bol might not be on this team next season. And outplaying Okeke for minutes doesn't seem that hard at this point. We could use an upgrade at the back up forward spots.



I agree. Something dies in me a little very time substitutions come on and I see Franz or Paolo being replaced by any combo of Bol/Okeke/MoeW...
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Re: Orlando Magic Big Board (8th Pick) 

Post#100 » by eyriq » Sat Apr 8, 2023 12:42 pm

We had a three way tie! Amen gets his own tier, and then Gradey, Walker, and Whitmore are tied atop tier 4. The next pick is guaranteed to fall in tier 4 as well I think.

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